What do the Packers get for Aaron Rodgers?

[Fritz]

Well, Tex, answer the question: what do you think the Packers will get for Rodgers?

[Bretsky]

HERE IS WHAT I WANT TO OFFER TO TAKE FOR KAREN

Green Bay traded Karen for a 2023 2nd rounder, and a 2024 1st rounder. That is equivalent to 2 second round picks, and I think the Jets might go for that given they expect to draft near the bottom of the round next year. I like the idea of having two 1st round picks in 2024. Let's figure out what we have with Love this year. I am fine getting a deferred pick or two

I don't think da Jets are giving up #13, and for the record I have NO problem at all calling their bluff and letting this staredown go til training camp.

Clearly GuteBag F'cked up royally several times in the past two years. That includes:

* Not resigning Devante Adams with a year left on his deal when he wanted to sign with GB; sounds like they were 2,000,000 apart. He ended up getting way way more
* Not trading Karen for a shitload of draft picks, thinking they could keep him and win a Super Bowl
* Last, but maybe not least, giving AROD everything he wanted in a deal great for Karen and not for Green Bay
* In addition, not clearly articulating to Karen his expectations that he come back to the all in mentality that he bantered about in interviews at the end of the season. There was a disconnect IMO and that is on Gutebag


With having several motherload of f'ck ups by Gute, I don't wanna see another one. I think the Jets are offering a 3rd as is or a 2nd only if GB easts more of the contract. That is unaccepteable. Gutebag needs to try to get fair value, at least.

[texaspackerbacker]

Well, Tex, answer the question: what do you think the Packers will get for Rodgers?

I'd rather say what SHOULD the Packers get - if there is a trade, which at this point, even I have to say is highly probable, although there's still a very slim thread of hope it will all fall through. SHOULD: at least two #1s and probably a little more besides. What WILL they get? If the Packer brass is as stupidly hung up on making a trade/moving on from Rodgers as most of ya'all in here seem to think/want, then they might be the ones to blink and give the Jets a bargain. The fact that no trade has been made says IMO that they are asking for at very least one #1. Sadly, my best guess would be that the trade eventually does go through, maybe not until after the draft, and we get a #2 and #3 in '24 with an additional #2 for each additional #2 for each year Rodgers plays beyond the first year. I suppose that would make ya'all stupidly happy, at least until ya'all wake up and see the Packers floundering with maybe 5 or 6 wins while Rodgers is playing MVP quality for the Jets.

You asked, I answered - as I literally always do, when so many others do not.

[sharpe1027]

It's not us that want the trade, Tex. It's Rodgers.

[Fritz]

Well, Tex, you did answer. You did.

As always, there's the "before the draft" impression of the deal: "Two first rounders! Wow! Cool!" or "Only a third and a second? Sheesh."

The after the draft - as in, two or three years after - can change that. IF the Packers get two first rounders, and one is Datone Jones and the other is Darnell Savage, then ugh. IF the Packers get only a third and second, and one is Davante Adams and the other is Elgton Jenkins, then cool.

[texaspackerbacker]

That's the problem with getting draft pick(s) for a known superstar, Fritz. It's a crap shoot, and usually a losing one. BTW, I didn't say they'd get 2 first rounders if they traded him before the draft if that's what you're saying. I just said SHOULD get 2 first rounders.

Sharpe, so you're now saying you don't want a Rodgers trade? Wow, talk about breaking news hahahaha. I'm generally too lazy to go back and dig up people's posts, but I'm pretty sure even before that sad day on McAfee when Rodgers said that, a LOT of haters or whatever in here were clamoring for trading him.

So if Rodgers came out and said he would be happy to stay with the Packers either because the trade falls through or he just says it, and then the trade falls through, you'd be happy with that? Did you just come out of the darkness, or what? I welcome you to the light, but I bet most of the ya'all crowd stupidly disagree with you.

[sharpe1027]

Tex, you only hear what you want to hear, you shithead.

[MadScientist]

Correct about what it means to the Jets, but the Packers need for it to NOT go through in order to not go right down the drain.

If the Packers needed this trade to fall through, they would not have given the Jets permission to talk, and it would have been Gute, Murphy, and MLF traveling out there fluffing him so that he would come back. The Packers are convinced that they need to move on from Rodgers, and therefore they need to get this trade done. There's a small chance for Rodgers winning the SB with the Jets, but no chance if he's back with the Packers. The situation will be bad and the season will implode.

As for what they should get, both seconds this year, and a conditional second next year if he plays on would be decent enough. If they can get more, great. It's unfortunate that there isn't another team involved to get the bidding higher.

[texaspackerbacker]

When I say NEED, I mean that's the only way the future is not extremely bleak - if the trade falls through and Rodgers stays a Packer.

[Fosco33]

There’s no way Rodgers plays again for the Pack

[texaspackerbacker]

I put it at just 10-15%, BUT if the trade does fall through, I put it at 97-100%.

[Fosco33]

If trade falls through I’d say 90% he retires

[bobblehead]

HERE IS WHAT I WANT TO OFFER TO TAKE FOR KAREN

Green Bay traded Karen for a 2023 2nd rounder, and a 2024 1st rounder. That is equivalent to 2 second round picks, and I think the Jets might go for that given they expect to draft near the bottom of the round next year. I like the idea of having two 1st round picks in 2024. Let's figure out what we have with Love this year. I am fine getting a deferred pick or two

I don't think da Jets are giving up #13, and for the record I have NO problem at all calling their bluff and letting this staredown go til training camp.

Clearly GuteBag F'cked up royally several times in the past two years. That includes:

* Not resigning Devante Adams with a year left on his deal when he wanted to sign with GB; sounds like they were 2,000,000 apart. He ended up getting way way more
* Not trading Karen for a shitload of draft picks, thinking they could keep him and win a Super Bowl
* Last, but maybe not least, giving AROD everything he wanted in a deal great for Karen and not for Green Bay
* In addition, not clearly articulating to Karen his expectations that he come back to the all in mentality that he bantered about in interviews at the end of the season. There was a disconnect IMO and that is on Gutebag


With having several motherload of f'ck ups by Gute, I don't wanna see another one. I think the Jets are offering a 3rd as is or a 2nd only if GB easts more of the contract. That is unaccepteable. Gutebag needs to try to get fair value, at least.

Focusing just on the trade part of your post I agree Gutes needs to stand strong on this one. The packers currently have 2 starting QBs on their roster while the Jets have none. People who think we have no leverage forget that point. I would also open talks with other teams (particularly SF). I would tell Rodgers that if he sinks talks with other teams he is welcome back next season. I wouldn't threaten him or say he's going to be the backup, but I would have Love ready at moments notice if Rodgers isn't productive. I would rather get nothing than a lone second to be honest.

[bobblehead]

Next year's first, even if it's in the mid-twenties, would be a nice haul if they could add one of the Jets' second-rounders this year.

I wouldn't even mind if the first was conditional on Rodgers being on an NFL roster at any point in 2024. I know the jets wouldn't be happy that its not conditional on him being a Jet, but they would have him, under contract, so its on them to make sure it would be with them.

On the other hand if Rodgers is one and done, getting a second for him would probably be fair.

[bobblehead]

To play devils advocate, here is a 40yo that seemed to decline and has said publicly he had one foot in retirement this offseason. How much is realistic? It's tricky hence why it isn't done.

I want to be the 49ers. They get a 2nd for a journeyman QB they benched (alex smith). They get 3rds streaming in every year because they refuse to promote their own minority coaches and scouts while other teams actually give them the roles they deserve. The NFL seems to be a very weird place when it comes to draft comp. Seems like when GB loses guys for 10+ mil a year its worth a 5th, but when more favored cities lose similar talent its worth a 3rd. Now we have a guy who won 2 of the last 3 MVPs and people think his value is the same as Alex Smith earlier in his non spectacular career. I'll also point out that when you trade for anyone you have to give him a marquee contract. In this case Rodgers isn't asking for a new deal like Khalil Mack was....and how many seasons did Mack give Chicago after that trade? If Rodgers gives them 3 top 5QB seasons shouldn't we get 2 firsts at least? Shouldn't this entire deal be a huge contingency deal?