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OFFICIAL AARON RODGERS THE LIVING LEGEND THREAD
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Episode 1 depicts Butte as being hip with the young uns of the Jesters, especially with Gardener, Black Wilson and Mormon Wilson. Remember, on the day Butte was traded, everyone and their baby’s mama were barking about Butte being too old and uncool for the new generation of Packers, especially with Doubs and Watson. Butte is still cool.
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It wasn't a matter of if Arod could relate to the younger players. It was a matter of if he was going to try. It sure seemed like Arod said, "fuck it" in Green Bay.Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View PostEpisode 1 depicts Butte as being hip with the young uns of the Jesters, especially with Gardener, Black Wilson and Mormon Wilson. Remember, on the day Butte was traded, everyone and their baby’s mama were barking about Butte being too old and uncool for the new generation of Packers, especially with Doubs and Watson. Butte is still cool.
I will give Arod this, he is extremely smart and knows how to manipulate people. He will do whatever is in his best interest.But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
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Same with the contract. He felt "disrespected" so he had to make the most money possible. He didn't offer a restructure before last season, when as assistant GM he brought in "his" guys. But he knows he wants to send the Packers another FU, and he knows he wants to get in good with the Jest, so he does a big restructure.Originally posted by ThunderDan View PostIt wasn't a matter of if Arod could relate to the younger players. It was a matter of if he was going to try. It sure seemed like Arod said, "fuck it" in Green Bay.
I will give Arod this, he is extremely smart and knows how to manipulate people. He will do whatever is in his best interest.
He is extremely smart, but like many people who think they're the smartest person in the room, he doesn't see that people can see through him."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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This is absolutely true about him, as well as thinking he's the smartest guy in the room.I will give Arod this, he is extremely smart and knows how to manipulate people. He will do whatever is in his best interest.
I think he was fairly checked out last year, whether he would admit it or not. He needed a change of scenery to reinvigorate him, the Packers needed to stop giving him so much control over personnel and scheme.
The trade was good for him, and if he's doing "Rodgers things" in NY it sure makes football interesting. I suspect he's enjoying it and not just acting for the camera (although I'm confident he's playing it up to annoy his critics).
It's interesting that Rodgers hates things that are often good for offenses like pre-snap motion, post-snap RPO reads, and MOF throws. Those are a lot of the things Shanahan/McVay use. He likes his McCarthy plays, and I'm sure Hackett will oblige him.
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Again with the weird speculation about what's in Rodgers' head. He's gone now as far as the Packers are concerned, and I like many don't give a damn about him other than the 65% of course. But this is stupid - this idea that any of us or the God damned media shitheads for that matter - have any clue about his thinking. As for what is or isn't good for offenses, it's laughable that any of us - or the God damned media shitheads - have a clue about that either. The McCarthy/Hackett style that Rodgers allegedly prefers brought the Packers huge success for a long long time. The Shanahan/McVay and presumably LaFleur style is another way of doing things that has had some success - I'd argue no more than McCarthy's. Rodgers allegedly bucked the system and continued McCarthyism (no politics intended hahahaha) under LaFleur. Until last year, when injuries thoroughly fucked things up, that melding worked pretty damn great.
Somewhere in the mix of success or not success Joe Barry's defense too.
I don't pretend to know more about offense (or defense) than the rest of ya'all. My two points, however, are: the professionals of the coaching staff as well as Rodgers himself certainly do, AND the record over the years is what it is.
I say all this in the context that I thoroughly expect the Packers to have a lot better year the Jets. However, I do NOT expect that to result from any mental or physical failings of Rodgers, just because the Packers have a lot better team overall than the Jets. Love bombing out could change that, but I increasingly don't expect him to bomb out.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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Originally posted by run pMc View PostThis is absolutely true about him, as well as thinking he's the smartest guy in the room.
I think he was fairly checked out last year, whether he would admit it or not. He needed a change of scenery to reinvigorate him, the Packers needed to stop giving him so much control over personnel and scheme.
The trade was good for him, and if he's doing "Rodgers things" in NY it sure makes football interesting. I suspect he's enjoying it and not just acting for the camera (although I'm confident he's playing it up to annoy his critics).
It's interesting that Rodgers hates things that are often good for offenses like pre-snap motion, post-snap RPO reads, and MOF throws. Those are a lot of the things Shanahan/McVay use. He likes his McCarthy plays, and I'm sure Hackett will oblige him.
Rodgers never fully embraced the LeFleur version of the Shanny-I-might-be-a-tranny-misdirection/motion offense, and so I think with Hackett running what is now an ancient offense, other teams will figure out how to defend against an aging Rodgers better and better."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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'It is interesting. I wonder though if it's possible for a diva, out of resentment toward a person or group of people, to turn into a knave.Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View PostI thought this was an interesting perspective.
https://twitter.com/mikemcg0/status/1689260205807181824I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Maybe, but I am not sure there's much difference between Divas and knaves. Sure Divas can contribute, but no need to glorify them. There are nice people just as smart and competent as the divas.Originally posted by Joemailman View Post'It is interesting. I wonder though if it's possible for a diva, out of resentment toward a person or group of people, to turn into a knave.
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Get thee back, ye knave!Originally posted by Joemailman View Post'It is interesting. I wonder though if it's possible for a diva, out of resentment toward a person or group of people, to turn into a knave.
Who comes up with this terminology?crazy."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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IOW, Rodgers' achievements were diminishing to where they did not outweigh the collateral damage, so a trade was done.As long as people can figure out any way to work with the divas, and the divas’ achievements outweigh the collateral damage caused by their diva ways, you should fight for them.
I think both sides will benefit.
I also think the Jets will have a better year than GB, although not by much. AFC is tough - lot of good teams (and QBs) in that conference.
And yes, the terminology is often silly.
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Did you not look at it closely, or is it not showing up correctly?Originally posted by Fritz View PostA Jets jersey? What jersey are you thinking of getting?I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Not seeing anything. There is a link when I look at the source, but it is not showing up in the page. It's an unusual looking link, so it may be filtered out for security reasons.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostDid you not look at it closely, or is it not showing up correctly?2025 Ratpickers champion.
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