Official 2023 Bury Joe Barry Thread

[George Cumby]

Didn't MLF work for Vrabel?

Or was that the staff prior?

[Joemailman]

Didn't MLF work for Vrabel?

Or was that the staff prior?

DC for 1 year before he came to the Packers.

[run pMc]

I understand talking shit here. His family doesn’t see it. But People were fucking with his daughter on social media. It’s just ridiculous how people can tear a guy up in public and not feel a shred of guilt. Honestly, outside of Tex, there is no one here who hates journalists as a general rule more than me. And they’ve been more respectful than the fan base. It’s kind of gross, to be honest.

Yeah going after the family or making it personal is crossing a line.
If the talking heads on TV make it a segment of their show, that's fair game -- if it's deserved. In Barry's case at least some scrutiny of his record and performance is deserved.

I don't know him personally; I've heard he's a great guy.
I will say I don't think he's calling and executing a defensive scheme that is consistently effective, I don't think he's gotten the most out of his players, and I don't think they've shown as much improvement as you'd like.
(I also have doubts the players like the scheme or the calls) On the grounds of his performance over 3 seasons I don't think he should be the DC next year.

I don't think it will stop with Barry either. I think most if not all of the defensive coaching staff will be gone with him, and a few of the players. When a defense is invested in and is expected to keep the team afloat for a young offense and can't you have to look at everything.
Devondre has his instincts but has been hurt a lot and is a step slow.
Savage is fast, but his tackling and angles still leave much to be desired.
The rest of the safeties are bargain bin guys. The back 7 will have some new starters.

[Bretsky]

How about the Giants and Bucs games?

BarryBall leads GB the last two weeks into the playoffs

[ThunderDan]

BarryBall leads GB the last two weeks into the playoffs

So we have 5 clunkers and 1 great job of the 17 games we played off the top of my head.

Beating Minn with their 4th string QB and the Bears aren’t BarryBall leading us anywhere.

[George Cumby]

So we have 5 clunkers and 1 great job of the 17 games we played off the top of my head.

Beating Minn with their 4th string QB and the Bears aren’t BarryBall leading us anywhere.

While I generally agree with your main point, if the Packers get pressure the way they have the last two games, they have a real shot.

[Bretsky]

So we have 5 clunkers and 1 great job of the 17 games we played off the top of my head.

Beating Minn with their 4th string QB and the Bears aren’t BarryBall leading us anywhere.

I want Barry gone as much or more than anybody

But I saw this story happen last year and to me Flower is looking for reasons to keep him

[Sparkey]

DC for 1 year before he came to the Packers.

OC not DC. I think he gets another chance to be a head coach. Best guess would be New England.

[bobblehead]

I want Barry gone as much or more than anybody

But I saw this story happen last year and to me Flower is looking for reasons to keep him

I don't think anyone can honestly assess what MiLF is thinking. He wants to win. If he thinks replacing Barry is his best route to winning I think he replaces him. I'm only guessing that he probably thinks that because...well, most of the free world thinks that and he isn't stupid. Thats the best conclusion I can draw.

[Joemailman]

To me, they seem to swing between having really good games and really awful ones, with the weight of "really awful" being much more common than the "really good" games.

I doubt they get Vrabel, unless he wants to take a year off as a HC and come up to Green Bay for a year before he throws his hat back into the head coaching ring.

But I have no feel for whether he'd be an attractive HC candidate right now - he just had two losing seasons, didn't he?

Hell, I don't know.

He went to the playoffs 3 years in a row with Tannehill throwing to A.J. Brown and Derrick Henry running the ball. Then Tennessee traded A.J. Brown and Tannehill got hurt. He's a very good coach. Maybe not a great one. With 8 HC openings though (so far) I'd be surprised if he doesn't get an offer.

[texaspackerbacker]

Hey you poll makers. I would like to see a poll about Barry, NOT whether we want him out, but yes or no if we expect it to happen.

[Fritz]

He went to the playoffs 3 years in a row with Tannehill throwing to A.J. Brown and Derrick Henry running the ball. Then Tennessee traded A.J. Brown and Tannehill got hurt. He's a very good coach. Maybe not a great one. With 8 HC openings though (so far) I'd be surprised if he doesn't get an offer.

That's a good point. With that many openings, he's likely to get a shot with someone - he has HC experience and if his failure can be 'splained away, an insecure (or super smart, depending on your point of view) owner/GM will bite on Vrabel

[Bretsky]

Hey you poll makers. I would like to see a poll about Barry, NOT whether we want him out, but yes or no if we expect it to happen.

This has JoeMailman Poll written all over it...fact based....

[RashanGary]

This has JoeMailman Poll written all over it...fact based....

I’m voting for keeping Barry. He’s a good guy, the team likes him and he’s doing a good job with what he has.

[Bretsky]

I’m voting for keeping Barry. He’s a good guy, the team likes him and he’s doing a good job with what he has.

Barry is terrible; but by GB making the late season run he just might have kept his job.