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  • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
    He’s making the best of the secondary he has. If he did things differently, we’d be torched in other ways and it would be worse. Points allowed is better than most other stats at defining a defense.

    Valentines development and a healthy Jaire along with Savages speed in center field should open up some more aggressive options that won’t get is killed. There’s a chance we see our best defense down the stretch here.
    You have absolutely no evidence to support that position. You are just make shit up out of thin air.

    Where it is 4 and 1 and you don’t line up anyone’s in the A gaps it is on the DC. When it is 3rd and 7 and your safeties play 25+ yards off the line of scrimmage it is on the DC.

    We have made a couple of clown show QBs and Os look like superstars. Hell, just a little over a week ago CAR scored 3 TDs against us. They hadn’t scored a TD in 9 quarters and didn’t score a TD in their season finale. They couldn’t punch it in for the last quarter of the season except against us.
    But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

    -Tim Harmston

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    • Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
      Hell, just a little over a week ago CAR scored 3 TDs against us.
      Two and a half weeks ago, actually.

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      • Originally posted by BrokenArrow View Post
        Two and a half weeks ago, actually.
        Correct, I forgot about the MINN game.

        As an additional footnote, Carolina scored 83 points the last 8 weeks of the season. Removing the Packers game that is 53 points over 7 weeks or 7.6 points per game.
        Carolina scored 7 TDs in the last 8 weeks of the season. Removing the Packer game that is .57 TDs per game.
        But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

        -Tim Harmston

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        • Last item and I will leave it alone regarding Carolina.

          Carolina scored 45 points the last 5 weeks of the season. Removing the Packer game Carolina averaged 3.8 points per game.
          We were the only team that Carolina scored a TD against in the last quarter of the season.
          But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

          -Tim Harmston

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          • Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
            Correct, I forgot about the MINN game.

            As an additional footnote, Carolina scored 83 points the last 8 weeks of the season. Removing the Packers game that is 53 points over 7 weeks or 7.6 points per game.
            Carolina scored 7 TDs in the last 8 weeks of the season. Removing the Packer game that is .57 TDs per game.
            Yeah, that was a bizarre thing. Big improvement the last two weeks though. We do need our offense to control the clock though to make up for mediocre defense. But this game is very winnable.

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            • There’s more to the season than the Panthers game.
              Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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              • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                There’s more to the season than the Panthers game.
                How about the Giants and Bucs games?
                But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

                -Tim Harmston

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                • Detroit and Minn game 1s against both teams?
                  But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

                  -Tim Harmston

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                  • Barry is a mediocrity. As a DC, he always has been. If he's retained, Packers will continue to be not very good on defense, but not the worst.
                    I can't run no more
                    With that lawless crowd
                    While the killers in high places
                    Say their prayers out loud
                    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                    A thundercloud
                    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                    • Anyone else unrealistically hope we get mike Vrabel?

                      Maybe he really misses lafluer
                      All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                      George Orwell

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                      • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                        Barry is a mediocrity. As a DC, he always has been. If he's retained, Packers will continue to be not very good on defense, but not the worst.
                        To me, they seem to swing between having really good games and really awful ones, with the weight of "really awful" being much more common than the "really good" games.

                        I doubt they get Vrabel, unless he wants to take a year off as a HC and come up to Green Bay for a year before he throws his hat back into the head coaching ring.

                        But I have no feel for whether he'd be an attractive HC candidate right now - he just had two losing seasons, didn't he?

                        Hell, I don't know.
                        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                        KYPack

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                        • Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
                          Last item and I will leave it alone regarding Carolina.

                          Carolina scored 45 points the last 5 weeks of the season. Removing the Packer game Carolina averaged 3.8 points per game.
                          We were the only team that Carolina scored a TD against in the last quarter of the season.
                          I will say this in Barry's defense on Carolina (and I do not really mean to defend him). Young made a handful of his best throws as a pro in that game. We didn't get the pressure on him that we have gotten since that game.

                          Barry blows and needs to go. His nature is far to conservative for the type of defense we have assembled. Points per game isn't a stat worth a damn when you run our offense and allow 2 possessions a half. I would gather that in points per possession we are dead last.
                          The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                          • Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
                            Anyone else unrealistically hope we get mike Vrabel?

                            Maybe he really misses lafluer
                            I honestly hope we get the janitor for the packer HoF if it means Barry is gone. But yes, Vrabel would be a fine choice. Wink would be cool. I saw Rex Ryan actually interviewed for a DC spot last year. I'm on board with that for sure.
                            The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                            • You're on the "ABB"train: Anyone But Barry.

                              Me too. Unless it's a Joe Barry clone.
                              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                              KYPack

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                              • Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                                I honestly hope we get the janitor for the packer HoF if it means Barry is gone. But yes, Vrabel would be a fine choice. Wink would be cool. I saw Rex Ryan actually interviewed for a DC spot last year. I'm on board with that for sure.
                                I dunno..

                                I don't know the NFL coach's worth squat but would be excited to have a young up-and-comer that could blend the young and more experienced players. The folks you mention are old and pale. To me they don't fit the vibe that is beginning to develop.

                                Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

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