Official 2023 Bury Joe Barry Thread

[RashanGary]

Completely agree that there are a LOT of problems on Defense; some have been bad draft picks; some could be crap attitudes (JAIRE) and some of it is Joe Barry.

The next three important dates are draft days.

Yeah. It’s probably time for a younger, brighter, ambitious guy who relates to the younger crowd. There is a huge disconnect between generations right now. Bigger than I ever remember. The young people on Twitter are just so aggressive, rude, cocky toward older people. It’s crazy. Bring in a 35 year old up and comer and I think you’ll get a better connection.

[Bretsky]

Yeah. It’s probably time for a younger, brighter, ambitious guy who relates to the younger crowd. There is a huge disconnect between generations right now. Bigger than I ever remember. The young people on Twitter are just so aggressive, rude, cocky toward older people. It’s crazy. Bring in a 35 year old up and comer and I think you’ll get a better connection.

JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY

[Joemailman]

Chris Hewitt
PASS GAME COORDINATOR/SECONDARY
College: Cincinnati

Hometown: Englewood, NJ

Experience: 12 years

Biography
CHRIS HEWITT enters his ninth season leading Baltimore's secondary. He joined the Ravens as an assistant special teams coach in 2012, a post he held for two years, before earning a promotion to assistant secondary coach in 2014. Hewitt has led Baltimore's secondary since the 2015 campaign, helping the team consistently earn standout defensive rankings. Prior to his Baltimore arrival, Hewitt spent time coaching at the collegiate level, including one year (2003) as Notre Dame's assistant strength and conditioning coach and an eight-year stint (2004-11) at Rutgers.

With Hewitt at the helm of the secondary (since 2015), Baltimore's defense has ranked at or near the top of the NFL in several categories, including points allowed per game (second – 20.0), yards allowed per game (first – 324.7) and third-down conversion percentage (second – 35.9)...The secondary has also contributed to the NFL's sixth-ranked opponent completion percentage (62.3) and sixth-best opponent passer rating (86.7).
Hewitt has coached several Pro Bowl DBs since 2015, when he started leading Baltimore's group, including Marlon Humphrey (2019-20 & 2022), Marcus Peters (2019), Earl Thomas III (2019) and Eric Weddle (2016-18).
Baltimore boasted a Top 5 defense in multiple categories in 2022, including the NFL's No. 3 unit in points allowed per game (18.5)...The Ravens were also third in defensive red zone TD percentage (46.4) and finished fourth on third down (34.9%)...Baltimore tied (Tampa Bay) for the NFL's ninth-fewest yards allowed per game (324.3), while permitting the second-fewest total TDs (32, tied with Buf. & Cin.) and fewest scores of 20-plus yards (5, tied with Cin.).
In 2020, the Ravens earned their third-straight playoff berth with the help of Hewitt's sixth-ranked pass defense (221.0 ypg)...Baltimore allowed the NFL's second-fewest points per game (18.9), seventh-fewest yards per game (329.8), owned the second-ranked third-down defense (34.0%) and produced a league-high 25 FFs.
In 2019, Baltimore achieved a franchise-best 14-2 record and earned its second-straight AFC North title...The defense allowed the NFL's third-fewest points per game (17.6), ranked fourth in yards per game (300.6), was No. 6 vs. the pass (207.2 ypg) and recorded the NFL's second-best defensive passer rating (77.5).
In 2018, the Ravens were the top-overall defense, allowing an NFL-best 292.9 yards per game...Against the pass, Baltimore ranked fifth, allowing 210.0 yards per game, while its 80.6 defensive passer rating stood second...Baltimore also permitted the league's second-fewest points per game (17.9) and finished third in third-down defense (34.1).
2012-22: (with Baltimore) 2022:Helped guide the NFL's No. 3 unit in points allowed per game (18.5) and defensive red zone TD percentage (46.4)...Baltimore also finished fourth on third down (34.9%) and tied (TB) for the NFL's ninth-fewest yards allowed per game (324.3)...The defense permitted the NFL's second-fewest total TDs (32, tied with Buf. & Cin.) and fewest scores of 20-plus yards (5, tied with Cin.)...CB Marlon Humphrey made his third-career Pro Bowl after finishing as one of two DBs (L'Jarius Sneed) to record at least 3 INTs and 3 sacks...S Kyle Hamilton earned PFWA All-Rookie honors after joining L'Jarius Sneed and Derwin James as one of three DBs to post at least 5 QBHs and 5 PD. 2021:Coached a secondary that contributed to the Ravens' No. 3 third-down defense (34.8%)...Helped guide rookie DB Brandon Stephens, who saw action in all 17 contests (11 starts) and posted the most tackles (74) by a Ravens' rookie defensive back since S Matt Elam in 2013 (76)...Stephens' 74 tackles stand as the third most by a rookie defensive back in Ravens franchise history, trailing only Elam in 2013 and S Ed Reed in 2012 (80). 2020: The Ravens earned their third-straight playoff berth with the help of Hewitt's sixth-ranked pass defense (221.0 ypg)...Baltimore allowed the NFL's second-fewest points per game (18.9), seventh fewest yards per game (329.8) per game, owned the second-ranked third-down defense (34.0%) and produced a league-high 25 FFs...Humphrey made his second-straight Pro Bowl after leading the NFL with a Ravens' single-season record 8 FFs and tallying a team-high 11 PD...CB Marcus Peters tied (two players) to produce the NFL's third-most takeaways (4 INTs & 2 FRs)...S Chuck Clark tallied 96 tackles, 2 FFs, 3 FRs, 1.5 sacks 1 INT and 1 D-TD. 2019: Baltimore achieved a franchise-best 14-2 record and earned its second-straight AFC North title...The defense allowed the NFL's third-fewest points per game (17.6), ranked fourth in yards per game (300.6), was No. 6 vs. the pass (207.2 ypg) and recorded the NFL's second-best defensive passer rating (77.5)...Scored 6 defensive TDs in 2019, including 5 by defensive backs, tied (with '06 and '08) for the second most in franchise history (2004 – 7) and also tied (TB) for the most in the NFL...Three members of the secondary earned Pro Bowl honors: CB Marlon Humphrey (first), CB Marcus Peters (third) and S Earl Thomas III (seventh). 2018:Ravens defense ranked No. 1 (292.9 ypg)...Baltimore, the AFC North division champions, also permitted the league's second-fewest points per game (17.9), just behind Chicago (17.7)...Pass defense ranked fifth, allowing 210.0 yards per game, while the team's 80.6 defensive passer rating was second in the NFL and its 34.1% third-down conversion percentage ranked third...S Eric Weddle was voted to his third-consecutive Pro Bowl. 2017:The Ravens' pass defense finished 10th (213.8 ypg), and Baltimore led the NFL in INTs (22) for the second-straight year...The Ravens ranked No. 1 with a +17 turnover differential...Baltimore also produced the second-most defensive touchdowns (5, tied, Det. & Phi.) and recorded 3 shutouts on the season, the most by a team since 2003 (NE)...S Eric Weddle tallied a team-high 6 INTs en route to earning his second-straight (fifth overall) Pro Bowl selection. 2016:The Ravens' defense ranked seventh overall (322.1 ypg), making Baltimore one of three teams (Den. & Sea.) to finish ranked in the NFL's Top 10 in each season from 2014-16...Baltimore's ninth-ranked pass defense (232.8 ypg) tied (KC & SD) to produce the NFL's most INTs (18)...S Eric Weddle earned Pro Bowl honors, registering a team-high 4 INTs (tied with LB C.J. Mosley) and career-high 13 PD. 2015:Baltimore's eighth-ranked defense (337.4 ypg) allowed a league-best 183.3 passing yards per game in the season's second half and helped permit the NFL's second-fewest total net yards (291.1 ypg) during that span (final eight games). 2014:Even while battling injuries throughout the season (six DBs were placed on Injured Reserve), the Ravens' secondary helped Baltimore's "D" allow the NFL's sixth-fewest points (18.9 ppg) and eighth-fewest yards per game (336.9). 2013:WR/RS Tandon Doss led the NFL in punt return average (15.6)...The Ravens were second in kickoff return average (26.4) and third in punt return average (14.2), posting an NFL-high 12 punt returns of 20-plus yards. 2012: Pro Bowl RS Jacoby Jones led the NFL in KOR average (30.7) and posted a league-best 2 KOR-TDs...Jones tied a league-record with 3 kick return TDs (108- and 105-yard KORs and 63-yard PR) and set a Super Bowl record with 290 combined yards, including an NFL-postseason-record 108-yard KOR-TD.

2004-11: (with Rutgers) 2010-11:Was the Scarlet Knights' RBs coach and mentored RB Jawan Jamison, who joined Ray Rice in becoming just the third freshman in Rutgers history to rush for 200 yards in a game. 2008-09: Rutgers ranked second in the Big East in pass defense in 2008 (191.3 ypg) and 2009 (204.5 ypg). 2005-07:Was director of speed and skill development...Aided by Hewitt's training, Rice set all-time school rushing records with 910 attempts for 4,926 yards, 49 TDs and a 90-yard long gain…Rice became the first player in Rutgers history to rush for 1,000-plus yards in three seasons (2005-07). 2004:Joined Rutgers' staff as a graduate assistant.

2003: (with Notre Dame)Served as the assistant strength and conditioning coach.

NFL PLAYER: (1997-99 with New Orleans)Signed with the Saints as a rookie free agent in 1997 and played in 39 games (four starts)…Played defensive back, serving primarily on special teams…Totaled 29 tackles (22 solo) from scrimmage, 3 sacks, 1 PD, 1 FF and 1 FR…Recorded 7 special teams tackles (6 solo) for the Saints' kickoff coverage team that ranked fifth in the NFL in average opponent starting field position (23.8-yard line) in 1998…Was named the NFC Special Teams Player of the Week in Week 12 vs. Seattle (11/16/97) after blocking a punt that led to a crucial field goal.

COLLEGE:Was a four-year letterman at Cincinnati and a two-time All-Conference USA selection (1995-96) as a DB…Played for John Harbaugh, who was the Bearcats' special teams, TEs, OLBs and RBs coach (1989-94) and assistant head coach (1995-96), and longtime Ravens special teams coordinator Jerry Rosburg, who was the team's LBs, special teams and secondary coach (1992-95)…Totaled 80 tackles and 2 INTs in his senior season…Earned a bachelor's degree in criminal justice.

PERSONAL:Participated in the NFL's Minority Coaching Fellowship Program, completing training camp stints with the Ravens (2006 & 2008), Eagles (2005) and Browns (2001)…Played football, basketball and track at Dwight Morrow (Englewood, NJ) HS…Was born in Kingston, Jamaica before moving to New Jersey when he was 5 years old…Chris and his wife, Tanisha, have three daughters (Azia, Briana and Christina) and a son (Christopher, Jr.).

[Fritz]

I see Mike Zimmerman is coming out of the woodwork saying he would like to be a defensive coordinator next season.

I imagine a few Packer fans got a boner after reading that article about him.

[Fritz]

I see Mike Zimmerman is coming out of the woodwork saying he would like to be a defensive coordinator next season.

I imagine a few Packer fans got a boner after reading that article about him.

Who the hell is Mike Zimmerman?

Mike Zimmer. Effin’ autocorrect.

[bobblehead]

I’m down to replace him. It sure seems to me you can do better. But Joe Barry isn’t our biggest problem on defense like everyone seems to think.

Disagree. He is indeed the biggest problem. Not the only problem, but certainly the biggest.

[ThunderDan]

Thunderdan, you’re a teacher right? I hope every student you have is performing at the absolute elite level compared to their peers. If not, it’s all on you, right?

Wow, that is super passive aggressive.

I am glad to see you are paying attention on this forum. I am a CPA.

[ThunderDan]

So you think Joe Barry called a play where the defenders were supposed to line up 20 yards off? Lafleur said within the general coverage call, players get flexibility in how they align.

No, I don’t think he called a defense that does that. But his players are not lined up anywhere near to correct.

I had a Pop Warner coach who would yell at us in 5th grade if you lined up so far from where you are supposed to be. Are you seriously telling me the coaches at the NFL level just let their guys line up wherever they want? There are schemes and adjustments in every coverage and play but being 27 yards off the line in scrimmage on 3rd and 4 and giving an NFL QB a 15 yard hole in your defense for an easy 1st down isn’t one of them.

Maybe this is why teams have been converting 3rd and any amount against us lately. We are willing to effectly play 11-9 football.

[ThunderDan]

I see Mike Zimmerman is coming out of the woodwork saying he would like to be a defensive coordinator next season.

I imagine a few Packer fans got a boner after reading that article about him.

I saw that article yesterday also. I would be happy to have Zimmer as our DC.

[Fritz]

I saw that article yesterday also. I would be happy to have Zimmer as our DC.

I admit to feeling a strange stirring in my loins when I read that.

But given RashanGary’s rant about the differences in generations - the disrespect, the new norms - and the consequent need for a coordinator who can relate, I think his suggested 35-year-old is not nearly young enough. Having been an English prof, I have learned that once you’re out of tenth grade, you’ve already started to lose your cool edge. Therefore, this is what the Packers need in a new DC:

[Fritz]

Ah, hell’. It was supposed to be a picture of a 12 year old boy genius.

[RashanGary]

https://www.newyorkjets.com/team/coaches-roster/marquand-manuel

Maybe we could poach Marquand Manuel from Robert Saleh’s staff


Prior to joining the Jets, Manuel served as the defensive backs coach with Philadelphia (2020), before four seasons in Atlanta, first as the secondary coach/senior defensive assistant (2015-16), Manuel was later promoted to defensive coordinator (2017-18). In his first season as coordinator (2017), the defense ranked in the top 10 in scoring defense (eighth), total defense (ninth), rushing defense (ninth), and red zone defense (fifth). Additionally, a pair of second year players, linebacker Deion Jones and safety Keanu Neal, each were selected for their first Pro Bowl.

[bobblehead]

Wait a minute Fritz....I thought you were a CPA.

[RashanGary]

Chris Hewitt, passing game coordinator Baltimore
Marquand Manuel, secondary coach, Jets
And the one I think could be the guy…. Bobby Babbich, Buffalo, linebackers.

[run pMc]

There have definitely been games where the game plan and calls were good but execution was poor. That's a problem.
Poor tackling is a problem. Communication issues are a problem. Sometimes the other team just makes a great play.

Not getting guys lined up, not making in game adjustments, inability to stop drives with a punt or a turnover, staying in nickel in obvious short-yardage/goal line situations, lack of player development ... those are coaching issues.
Big picture, Barry is a big problem.

Hey remembet Barry's first game as DC, when Jameis Winston threw for 5TDs (and 0 Int) on 14 completions in a rout? Remember his 2nd game where MLF had to tell him at halftiime to blitz DET because GB was losing?
Remember his 3rd game where he gave up 14 points in the 4Q (including a go-ahead TD to Juscyck with 37 seconds left) only to get bailed out by Rodgers, Adams and Crosby?

I could go on, beginning with his 1st season on thru this season.

I don't think firing Barry solves all their problems, and I don't think a new DC is the missing piece to a Super Bowl... but a good hire at DC is critical to them winning more games.