Official 2023 Bury Joe Barry Thread

[run pMc]

I sure hope not. Even up 27-7 at halftime I felt like the lead wasn't safe.

Two things give me hope:
(1) GB played a lot softer in the 2nd half, but they still gave up over 500 yards of offense.
(2) MLF got spooked enough when DAL got to 32 that he put the starters back in

If Barry can continue this, sure...ok, keep him another year.

I still don't think he's an above average DC. If he was, he'd be getting interest from other teams.

[Fritz]

If Barry can continue what?

Having the defense play well for three quarters and then going soft, like Carolina?

That’s like saying if a man can get it up for 20 minutes and be hard, that him getting soft at the key moment when she’s getting ready to cum means he’s still great in the sack.

Ask your wife/girlfriend what she thinks about that.

[run pMc]

If Barry can continue what?

Jumping on opponents early, getting turnovers and score, and helping the offense get a big lead. Barry's D is tailor made to be a front runner with a big lead. If they are up by 2 and the other team has the ball with 1 minute and 2 timeouts left forget it.

I think ultimately MLF will come to his senses - or someone will make him - and he'll get a different DC. If it's not this year, it better be next.

It's interesting to consider that, even with a 27-7 lead at halftime, they weren't completely safe. DAL scored 25 in the 2nd half (one TD drive was against scrubs but still). If the offense hadn't kept the pedal to the floor that could've been a different game, even theugh GB was kicking the crap out of DAL in the first half.

[Joemailman]

This game doesn't help clarify the situation. Defense played well for 3 quarters but couldn't stop them when they needed to at the end. Forced no turnovers. The usual mix of positives and negatives.

[RashanGary]

I’d be ok whichever way Matt goes. I think almost all of the problem we had was when our secondary was decimated and he had to try to either cover for them or stop the run and have them get gashed. Not much he can do without the horses. He’s not on the field.

[call_me_ishmael]

I suspect they will make a change, but who? Change for the sake of change isn't particularly inspiring. Maybe Wink? This DL with Wink could be a lot of fun. The D would certainly force turnovers.

[RashanGary]

Lafleur said the staff would stick together after the game. Not directly about Barry, but in general. I don’t think he’s going anywhere.

[sharpe1027]

I don't see a change now. This team can win with Barry. I just wish it didn't feel like he is a pile of bricks in their backpacks they need to overcome.

[run pMc]

I don't see a change now. This team can win with Barry. I just wish it didn't feel like he is a pile of bricks in their backpacks they need to overcome.

Yeah. I don't have any faith that if GB is up 2 or 6 points late in a game they can stop a team. Barry's defenses are a little too soft/passive for my tastes, but I'm not the coach.
Supposedly more aggressive defenses (like what Flores ran in MN) are going to become the new hot thing. More pressure and deception, less sit back with bend/don't break stuff. We'll see how that works out.

[texaspackerbacker]

It seemed like Barry got a lot smarter late in the season. More likely, he overcame stubbornness after being told shape up or ship out, and did a few things he previously hadn't wanted to do.

Given that LaFleur likes Barry and things did get better late in the year, I think he stays. Hopefully he doesn't backslide to his old ways next season. As was said, we can win with him, and the continuity probably is a good thing.

[bobblehead]

If he isn't extended within 2 weeks it means they are looking at alternatives

[Bretsky]

It seemed like Barry got a lot smarter late in the season. More likely, he overcame stubbornness after being told shape up or ship out, and did a few things he previously hadn't wanted to do.

Given that LaFleur likes Barry and things did get better late in the year, I think he stays. Hopefully he doesn't backslide to his old ways next season. As was said, we can win with him, and the continuity probably is a good thing.

Just like last year.

[King Friday]

You have to do better than Barry. His track record during his career speaks for itself. He doesn’t command championship caliber defenses. If you want to win a title, he’s not the guy you want helming the defense. The last few years bear that out entirely. He’s not the worst defensive coach ever, but his defenses almost always fail to hold the lead. You need to find someone who can…at least some of the time.

[red]

i think its gonna be tough to get rid of him after the last few weeks

[Bretsky]

i think its gonna be tough to get rid of him after the last few weeks

agree