Official Fire Jeff Hafley Thread

[MadtownPacker]

Have never seen what the Jaire fuss was about. He is just a highlight reel player. He is not a grinder or heart of the defense type. One of the players that should have been replaced.

[Patler]

Did he really get "Notoriety"?

From M-W
"Notoriety
1: the quality or state of being notorious"

"Notorious
: - generally known and talked of, e.g.
'iron is a notorious conductor of heat'"


So, in answer to your question, - "Yes!"

[Fritz]

It doesn't seem to matter who the defensive coordinator is; the Packers just never seem to tackle very well.

Conversely, it doesn't ever seem to matter who's coaching the Bears, they seem to be able to tackle consistently.

I think the heat is on Half-Assley already. You got no time for "they're still learning the system" after shoveling us loads and loads about how this system is simpler so the players can "play fast." They need to play hard and fast - oh, and not look like a clown show when it comes to tackling.

If they make the talented-but-wildly-erratic Anthony Richardson look like an All Pro in Green Bay, there's gonna be an awful, awful lot of booing raining down from the stands.

[bobblehead]

Fritz we have had a generation of OC/QB coaches as Head coaches. In likelihood they don't want their precious talent hurt during practices and camps. We need a practice squad of guys willing to be tackled in practice I think. That first season MiLF ran a more intense camp. Shorter more physical practices. I bet Dan Campbell allows contact in practice. It wouldn't shock me if he hides Goffs red vest.

Edit: Let me see if McKinney regresses as a tackler as the season progresses. That would lend credence to my theory (yes, its just a theory. I have no clue why we can't tackle.)

[Tony Oday]

I will hold my criticisms of the Defensive Tackling until they are on a real NFL surface.

[sharpe1027]

Is our tackling really that much worse than other teams?

Our offensive players make the other team miss every game. Are we biased when it happens the other way around?

[Joemailman]

Is our tackling really that much worse than other teams?

Our offensive players make the other team miss every game. Are we biased when it happens the other way around?

According to Pro Football Reference, missed tackles ranged from 63 (Cowboys) to 131 (Panthers). The Packers were about in the middle with 101. Those rough and tough Lions were pretty near the bottom with 124.

[Fritz]

According to Pro Football Reference, missed tackles ranged from 63 (Cowboys) to 131 (Panthers). The Packers were about in the middle with 101. Those rough and tough Lions were pretty near the bottom with 124.

Oh, I don't know about that, Joe. On the three plays I watched of the Loins last night, they made good, hard tackles right away on all three plays. Therefore the Loins tackle well. Statistics, shmatistics.

[MadtownPacker]

Oh, I don't know about that, Joe. On the three plays I watched of the Loins last night, they made good, hard tackles right away on all three plays. Therefore the Loins tackle well. Statistics, shmatistics.

Damn, Tex was right about you being a lions fan!!

[run pMc]

Bad tackling on the pro level is usually considered the player's fault, not the DC's. The CBA has so many limits on practice you can't really teach/coach tackling fundamentals a lot.
You can improve at tackling, some players are just good (or bad) at it. Swapping McKinney for Savage should result in an improvement. Devonte Wyatt and Keisean Nixon have high missed tackle percentages. If GB is in the middle, I'm not surprised.

And yes, I assumed this thread was created as a joke and was playing along. Being a DC basically makes you a whipping boy with how the rules have emphasized the passing game and more scoring. Almost every fanbase complains about their DC, especially after a loss.

[Jaire]

Jaire has struggled against A.J. Brown types though even that has been a few years. He also was clearly not happy with Barry and not being used correctly. And Brown is underrated imo. not worried about Jaire especially if he's not falling down every other play on the Sao Paulo soccer sod.

Also, not worried about the defense. It's basically a preseason game on a slip and slide with a very young roster. I saw a lot I liked. They know they have a lot to clean up too. And Philly imo is front runner in the NFC (though Detroit looked really good last night).

[Fritz]

Damn, Tex was right about you being a lions fan!!

[bobblehead]

According to Pro Football Reference, missed tackles ranged from 63 (Cowboys) to 131 (Panthers). The Packers were about in the middle with 101. Those rough and tough Lions were pretty near the bottom with 124.

Depends on defining "missed". We hit guys and fail to bring them down. The Lions fly at you 100mph and make guys juke which sets them up to be knocked down by the next heat seeking missile. Once you hit a guy you have to being him down. I stand by my assertion that savage was the most inappropriately named S ever.

[Fritz]

Any way you cut it, the defense really needs to step it up against the Colts.

I also read a disconcerting article on ACME about Lukas Van Ness - that he's still only a one-trick pony, that he's not developing moves and still relies on his bull rush going into year two, whereas by this point for Rashan Gary, he'd shown some development.

Though ol' Rashan needs to play better this week, too.

[bobblehead]

Going to seek out that article. Van Ness was REALLY raw coming in, but his power/burst is for real. A guy needs a counter move for sure. If he didn't spend 24/7 working on one all off season its disappointing.