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  • #31
    Originally posted by Patler View Post
    That guarantee isn't worth much. Absent his untimely demise or incarceration, under what circumstance would he not be on the team in 2025? It would take more than one bad season for them to give up on their investment after his overall performance last year.
    That guarantee is worth $40M. Thats what its worth. Even if he has a heart attack on the field that is completely unrelated to anything other than being hit. Right now he has what? Maybe $20M this year? Big difference in the size of those insurance policies.

    edit: But I admitted his agent wouldn't do it. I would just let him play this season, then if he balls out I would tag him and give him the mega deal. And sharpe, by doing it this way he never actually signs the tag, so you don't get crushed year one of the deal. I'd make the offer so he could feel he "bet on himself" and not feel totally disrespected. Its a safe offer to make since he won't take it.
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    • #32
      All that being said, by the end of June he will be the highest paid QB in the game with a deal that tops Burrow. Not the way I would play it, but its what will happen. I have a good track record with this stuff. I said "we won't trade Rodgers" the year we didn't. Then I said "he gone" before we did. I even predicted the cutting of Ryan Grant when everyone thought I was bonkers.

      This kind of thing is easier to predict than actually predicting a player will pan out or not. I am all in that Morgan will be a stalwart OL for a decade, but I could be wrong on that. This....no, Love is getting his and he is getting it soon.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
        All that being said, by the end of June he will be the highest paid QB in the game with a deal that tops Burrow. Not the way I would play it, but its what will happen. I have a good track record with this stuff. I said "we won't trade Rodgers" the year we didn't. Then I said "he gone" before we did. I even predicted the cutting of Ryan Grant when everyone thought I was bonkers.

        This kind of thing is easier to predict than actually predicting a player will pan out or not. I am all in that Morgan will be a stalwart OL for a decade, but I could be wrong on that. This....no, Love is getting his and he is getting it soon.
        I'm wondering if the Cowboys overpay Dak making him the highest paid, how that will affect the Love situation. Should Gute get the Love deal done before the Cowboys and Dak?
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        With that lawless crowd
        While the killers in high places
        Say their prayers out loud
        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
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        • #34
          Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
          Love's agent would never accept this, but this is what I would offer if I were GB. I would offer a one year extension for $40M fully guaranteed. Thats the 2025 season. I'd give him the Joe Flacco promise. You play 2024 in a way that justifies that 40M and we will give you the biggest deal ever as soon as we are allowed in the 2026 offseason. Love is set for life regardless of what happens. Packers are protected if he pulls a Wentz, Goff, Flacco, Murry, Watson or pick your guy who got paid and then didn't live up to it.

          If he runs back a top 5 type season in 2024 here you give him the Burrow deal the first day the league rules allow. Plus you got the added bonus of one more year at a "discount" of $40M.

          When his agent says "hell no" you let him play on his deal. Then you tag him if he balls out. Then you extend him with the biggest deal in history. Same result for the packers either way, but Love doesn't get "set for life" if he suffers a career ender during this next year.

          To me this is reasonable but with if the Nick Collins situation occurs ?

          If we are giving him an extension early Love should take less per year in exchange for a healthy signing bonus to set him up for life.

          Do it for 4 years and he'll get another insane contract if he performs
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          • #35
            We have a season ahead he’s set to make peanuts in QB money terms. And then a franchise year which isn’t what any qb wants. He has half a season of elite pay.

            He should not be the top paid QB in the league. A couple points over Goff. That’s it.
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            • #36
              Goff is a sb winning QB. Averaged about 4k yards 65% 25TDs and 10 picks.

              Love has half a season of elite pay and two years he’s under team control.

              Goffs deal is fair. Period.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                Goff is a sb winning QB. Averaged about 4k yards 65% 25TDs and 10 picks.

                Love has half a season of elite pay and two years he’s under team control.

                Goffs deal is fair. Period.
                Goff is pretty good, but he's actually a SB losing QB. He was pretty bad against the Patriots.
                I can't run no more
                With that lawless crowd
                While the killers in high places
                Say their prayers out loud
                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                A thundercloud
                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                • #38
                  Goff is crap. Love is hugely better and will get better yet.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                    That guarantee is worth $40M. Thats what its worth. Even if he has a heart attack on the field that is completely unrelated to anything other than being hit. Right now he has what? Maybe $20M this year? Big difference in the size of those insurance policies.
                    I don't think you are getting my point. Two scenarios:

                    1. GB offers $40 million for 2025.
                    2. GB offers $40 million for 2025, and guarantees it.

                    The guarantee of scenario 2 does not add much value, because the risk of him not collecting under scenario 1 is not very high. Could something happen? Sure, but not likely. The guarantee adds very little to the offer. If scenario 1 is not acceptable, the guarantee of scenario 2 won't change that.

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                    • #40
                      GB gave Rodgers an elite QB contract after just a handful of starts.

                      Love has an entire season and playoff performances that certainly compare favorably to Rodgers in 2008 and 2022. In fact, only a handful of Rodgers seasons throughout his career have been significantly superior statistically to Love's 2022 season.

                      If GB is financially able, why should they not roll the dice with Love like they did with Rodgers in 2008?

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                      • #41
                        Given how easy it is for the Packer organization to find the next great franchise QB, trade him for a half-dozen first round picks to some desperate sad-sack organization and then go get you another one. Let him play behind Sean Clifford for two years instead of three, then get a few years of cheap, great QB play, then start it all over again.

                        OR pay Love, soon.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                          We have a season ahead he’s set to make peanuts in QB money terms. And then a franchise year which isn’t what any qb wants. He has half a season of elite pay.

                          He should not be the top paid QB in the league. A couple points over Goff. That’s it.
                          but Goff is the 2nd highest paid QB in the league.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Patler View Post
                            I don't think you are getting my point. Two scenarios:

                            1. GB offers $40 million for 2025.
                            2. GB offers $40 million for 2025, and guarantees it.

                            The guarantee of scenario 2 does not add much value, because the risk of him not collecting under scenario 1 is not very high. Could something happen? Sure, but not likely. The guarantee adds very little to the offer. If scenario 1 is not acceptable, the guarantee of scenario 2 won't change that.
                            And as JH said, it protects him against the nick collins injury. Or the 7 concussions Tua got in 3 games. The guarantee definitely matters.
                            The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Patler View Post
                              GB gave Rodgers an elite QB contract after just a handful of starts.

                              Love has an entire season and playoff performances that certainly compare favorably to Rodgers in 2008 and 2022. In fact, only a handful of Rodgers seasons throughout his career have been significantly superior statistically to Love's 2022 season.

                              If GB is financially able, why should they not roll the dice with Love like they did with Rodgers in 2008?
                              And they will. I'm just saying I wouldn't. Not yet. Show me another season and you can have the top contract in the league.
                              The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                                Given how easy it is for the Packer organization to find the next great franchise QB, trade him for a half-dozen first round picks to some desperate sad-sack organization and then go get you another one. Let him play behind Sean Clifford for two years instead of three, then get a few years of cheap, great QB play, then start it all over again.

                                OR pay Love, soon.
                                The secret discovered in GB is this: get him when you find him, do not wait until you need him.

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