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  • #91
    I'd be all for a trade for Metcalf. Wicks would be the one I'd most want to part with. He has regressed a lot. Doubs may have a low ceiling, but he's most likely of those three to reach that ceiling and stay there. Also, he'd fit in best with Metcalf - a consistent possession guy to go with the field stretcher. Excellent if we could make it happen with a second rounder, still good if even if it takes a first rounder.
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    • #92
      This whole Metcalf trade rumor is intriguing. It's probably just that, a rumor. I don't know if Metcalf is worthy giving up the 23rd pick, plus more. If this rumor does have any weight, it'll be a very interesting offseason.

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      • #93
        Wicks regressed, but a lot of players have a second year slump. I'd guess he's going to bounce back in 2025.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Patler View Post
          Interesting, because Doubs would be the first of those three that I would let go. Watson and Wicks scream potential above average. Doubs will be what he has been; good, mostly reliable, not an impact player. Doubs is more easily replaced. He has never had a 100 yard game during the regular season, has had only two games with more than 80 yards. He has no receptions of 40 or more yards. He breaks few tackles and has minimal YAC.
          Watson can’t stay on the field and there’s no evidence he ever will. Trade an injured WR w/ upside for a known high caliber WR.

          No matter what - we need at least one, maybe 2 veterans in the the offense besides a quiet Love and the recently outspoken Jacobs.
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          • #95
            Originally posted by Fosco33 View Post
            Watson can’t stay on the field and there’s no evidence he ever will. Trade an injured WR w/ upside for a known high caliber WR.

            No matter what - we need at least one, maybe 2 veterans in the the offense besides a quiet Love and the recently outspoken Jacobs.
            Well of course - that would seem obvious. But Seattle is asking ALSO for a first round pick, I think, or maybe a second. That's a lot to part with for a guy who will have a big contract and probably only about two or three more really great years.
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            • #96
              Originally posted by Fosco33 View Post
              Watson can’t stay on the field and there’s no evidence he ever will. Trade an injured WR w/ upside for a known high caliber WR.

              No matter what - we need at least one, maybe 2 veterans in the the offense besides a quiet Love and the recently outspoken Jacobs.
              I'm actually more concerned about Doubs' head than I am about Watson's injuries. Watson seemed to get the hamstring issues behind him last year. Knee injuries happen kind of randomly. Doubs' second concussion last year, on a routine play, while wearing the added protection of a Guardian helmet cover, is concerning.

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              • #97
                Deebo Samuel is worth a fifth.

                A 1st and a player is way too much for Metcalf.

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                • #98
                  Yes. Teams that give up proven stars like Samuel and potentially Metcalf are stupid - seemingly, and hopefully the Packers can take advantage and get him cheap. Metcalf is worth more than Sameul, but not that much more.

                  I wonder if there are extenuating circumstances, though. Maybe fans of some other teams are reading about the Packers letting Jaire go cheap and thinking the same sort of thing.
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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Sparkey View Post
                    Deebo Samuel is worth a fifth.

                    A 1st and a player is way too much for Metcalf.
                    Is he worth just a 1st round pick alone? History sort of tells us that GB doesn't value the position to be worthy of 1st round picks, and Metcalf is not great, just very good. Fewer than 450 receptions in 6 seasons isn't elite.

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                    • Deebo from 2021 would be worth more. 2024 Deebo isn't as good as 2024 Melcalf and it may be a bigger delta in 2025.

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                      • Metcalf is going to want an extension. Trading a high draft pick for the privilege of signing a player to an expensive contract is generally bad process.
                        I think he's a very good but not elite player and a R1 + Doubs is steep, whether you want to compare with Deebo or not.

                        I do think Metcalf would affect defenses in the way MLF wants though.

                        What they really need is for Wicks and Reed to figure out how to beat man coverage and not drop the ball when it hits their hands.

                        Watson's knee injury was separate from the other things he had prior to last season. I think the trip to Madison worked for him. He's in a contract year, and with him missing at least 2/3 of it, I suspect they could bring him back on a reasonable deal with incentives.

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                        • Not only would Metcalf want an extension, but the Packers would likely insist an extension be agreed to before giving up a high draft pick. Agree that trading a high pick for a guy you will have to pay big money to is not Gute's way of doing things.
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                          • a player has to be really special and young to get a 1st round pick. Metcalf is awesome, I love his size and demeanor. He would be worth the contract especially pairing him with a much better QB than what they currently run out there in Seattle. He, like a lot of dudes are not getting a 1st round pick. I would think a 3rd or 4th would be the expected value along with a player like Doubs.

                            The Packers need a deep threat weapon and more importantly a physical weapon that can box out defensive backs and win the contested balls on a regular basis. I can't see them trading for Metcalf, but I tell you I wouldn't hate it.

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                              • Originally posted by Patler View Post
                                Interesting, because Doubs would be the first of those three that I would let go. Watson and Wicks scream potential above average. Doubs will be what he has been; good, mostly reliable, not an impact player. Doubs is more easily replaced. He has never had a 100 yard game during the regular season, has had only two games with more than 80 yards. He has no receptions of 40 or more yards. He breaks few tackles and has minimal YAC.
                                You know my opinion on Doubs is the opposite of yours and many others here, but you are correct in this situation. Hurt to say it, but the first hard shot he takes will probably take him out for a week or two. He is the best set of hands but health is bad. If Seattle took him ok but they would want Wicks or Watson. I say trade whichever is accepted for DK.

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