Packers Offseason/Free Agency/ Non-Draft Thread

[Fritz]

Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet

Sources: The #Packers have had trade conversations centered around star CB Jaire Alexander and they are open to moving him for the right price.

Alexander, still just 28 and a two-time Pro Bowler, is considered to be the most decorated CB available.

I know this is a lost cause, but it really bugs the hell out of me.

I would like to remind these "sources" that "centered around" is an oxymoron. A "center" is the point in the middle of something. So you can center ON something, but if you're "around" it, then you're not centering.

Oh, and why would anyone trade for Alexander when it's very very likely that he's going to be cut prior to June 1st?

[SudsMcBucky]

I know this is a lost cause, but it really bugs the hell out of me.

I would like to remind these "sources" that "centered around" is an oxymoron. A "center" is the point in the middle of something. So you can center ON something, but if you're "around" it, then you're not centering.

Oh, and why would anyone trade for Alexander when it's very very likely that he's going to be cut prior to June 1st?

Well, if a team is fine with his existing contract the way it is, they'd do it so they don't have to take the chance he picks somewhere else to go if he's a FA.

[sharpe1027]

We traded for Malik Willis when he was probably getting cut.

[Fritz]

Well, if a team is fine with his existing contract the way it is, they'd do it so they don't have to take the chance he picks somewhere else to go if he's a FA.

This is the part I don't quite get - it seems abundantly clear that that is a killer contract - unless I don't understand how trading a contract works - like if the Packers are responsible for some of it even if he's traded or something - anyway, why would anyone take on that contract when presumably they could sign him as a FA anyway sometime in May, and likely for less than his current contract, right?

Willis was a different story - his contract was no impediment.

Does a team have to be dumb to trade for Alexander when they could sign him for less later? Or really, if the Packers cut him, will there be a bidding frenzy that would drive the price close to what he's due to make now? I just don't quite get it. I wonder if I don't understand the process vis a vis trading a contract, or if I don't understand Alexander's perceived worth to other teams?

[sharpe1027]

The Packers are stuck with the signing bonuses and restructuring portions even if traded. The team that would get him is only responsible for what remains. That being said, he'd still count around $17M for them. They might be able to restructure to lower that more, however.

I don't know what he'd get on the open market, but the delta probably isn't huge and the team could guarantee getting him versus risk losing out to a team that bids higher or one that he goes to cheaper because they are a better team with a chance at winning the Superbowl, etc

[Fritz]

The Packers are stuck with the signing bonuses and restructuring portions even if traded. The team that would get him is only responsible for what remains. That being said, he'd still count around $17M for them. They might be able to restructure to lower that more, however.

I don't know what he'd get on the open market, but the delta probably isn't huge and the team could guarantee getting him versus risk losing out to a team that bids higher or one that he goes to cheaper because they are a better team with a chance at winning the Superbowl, etc

Ah . . . I did not know about the signing bonuses and such. So now it makes more sense. Thanks.

[SudsMcBucky]

Will APB's dream finally come true? (Albeit 6 years later).

https://x.com/CorbinSmithNFL/status/1895500192818102488

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Will APB's dream finally come true? (Albeit 6 years later).

https://x.com/CorbinSmithNFL/status/1895500192818102488

Get it done!

[Joemailman]

Will APB's dream finally come true? (Albeit 6 years later).

https://x.com/CorbinSmithNFL/status/1895500192818102488

Some reports say Seahawks want 1st round pick, young receiver and a day 3 pick. That sounds too rich. Also, Metcalf is entering the last year of his contract. For the Packers to give up a high pick, they likely would need Metcalf to agree to a contract extension. Still, Seahawks need cap room (they are 7 million over the cap), so a deal is possible.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Some reports say Seahawks want 1st round pick, young receiver and a day 3 pick. That sounds too rich. Also, Metcalf is entering the last year of his contract. For the Packers to give up a high pick, they likely would need Metcalf to agree to a contract extension. Still, Seahawks need cap room (they are 7 million over the cap), so a deal is possible.

Day 3 picks aren’t that precious and odds are against the German Shepherd hitting on a pick at 23 or wherever the Pack pick.

1st
4th
Wicks

Get it done!

[smuggler]

If the Packers trade for Metcalf, it'd probably be and 2nd and Wicks or Doubs to go. We'd probably get a 7th back.

[Fosco33]

Gosh - can’t see them giving up Doubs. I’d be fine w/ Wicks or Watson even.

[Fritz]

Gosh - can’t see them giving up Doubs. I’d be fine w/ Wicks or Watson even.

From the Seahags perspective, would you want a guy who's been concussed twice in the past season and also ditched the team briefly when he was unhappy? I think they'd rather have the higher-upside Watson, who will likely heal by the end of next season. Still he'd have question marks about health, too, but of a different nature.

[smuggler]

Doubs is also the lowest celing receiver on the roster.

[Patler]

Gosh - can’t see them giving up Doubs. I’d be fine w/ Wicks or Watson even.

Interesting, because Doubs would be the first of those three that I would let go. Watson and Wicks scream potential above average. Doubs will be what he has been; good, mostly reliable, not an impact player. Doubs is more easily replaced. He has never had a 100 yard game during the regular season, has had only two games with more than 80 yards. He has no receptions of 40 or more yards. He breaks few tackles and has minimal YAC.