Official 2025 Training Camp Thread

[MadScientist]

Cornerback Nate Hobbs won't be the only starter in the Green Bay Packers secondary to miss time during the rest of training camp and the preseason. Safety Xavier McKinney, who missed Thursday's practice with a calf injury, is expecting to miss the preseason because of the injury, per Matt Schneidman of The Athletic.

Like Hobbs, who needed a surgery to repair a partially torn meniscus in his knee, McKinney is confident he'll be ready to go when the Packers take on the Detroit Lions in the season opener on Sunday, Sept. 7.

"I'll be ready," McKinney said Thursday when asked about Week 1.

McKinney said the injury has been "lingering over time."

"I'm glad we caught it when we caught it, so trying to take it slow," McKinney said. "But I'll be ready when it's time to go."

While the exact injury to McKinney wasn't disclosed, a low-level calf strain can take 2-3 weeks to heal. The Packers likely want McKinney, an All-Pro during his first season in Green Bay, to fully recover from a soft tissue injury before the start of the regular season.

Those things can easily linger. Best to shut him down now. McKinney doesn't need the preseason at all.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Ain’t even two full weeks of practice and Hobbs is already on the injured list. This guy is softer than Watson, who in turn is softer than Michael Sam in a brothel full of hot chicks.

I am rooting for “shutdown” corner, Bo Milton, but is there an Al Harris buried on some other team’s depth chart the Packers could trade for? Nixon is the team’s CB1, for fuck’s sake! Nixon ain’t no shutdown corner, machismos.

Tell me again, why the fuck did they pick Mitchell/Miller/McNabb/Morgan/Whoever over the great white hope, King Koopa Dejean? Whoever is getting killed in practice by Vanilla Ice, for fuck’s sake.

Goddamn, I miss J-Alex.

End rant.

[texaspackerbacker]

That Al Harris type would be Valentine - not super fast, but all over the place just getting the job done. Melton is gonna be the new Sam Shields. Hobbs sounds like a real mean S.O.B. like I don't recall us having, not a Corner anyway. Nixon may not be a shutdown guy, may not even be a legitimate CB1, but it seems like we have about three better than him, and as the 4th Corner, he ain't bad.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

That Al Harris type would be Valentine - not super fast, but all over the place just getting the job done. Melton is gonna be the new Sam Shields. Hobbs sounds like a real mean S.O.B. like I don't recall us having, not a Corner anyway. Nixon may not be a shutdown guy, may not even be a legitimate CB1, but it seems like we have about three better than him, and as the 4th Corner, he ain't bad.

3 corners better on Nixon on the roster? Whatcha smoking?

[texaspackerbacker]

I just named 'em.

When the D got good last season, Jaire wasn't even playing.

[Fritz]

Those things can easily linger. Best to shut him down now. McKinney doesn't need the preseason at all.

Agreed. It also means that the young bucks will get more reps in practices, too. And that's important.

It's the training camp kook aid, I know, but not only is everyone seemingly impressed with Bo Melton's smooth transition, it appears Kalen King is also playing well now. With Haddad injured, and Robinson seemingly a typical rookie (getting acclimated to a new city, to new people, to a new scheme and coaches), King can be an important piece if he can show that he's, A) consistently good (enough), and B) able to play both slot and outside. Read an interesting point in ACME that with Hobbs and Mckinney out for the preseason, the presumed starters at safety would be Williams and Bullard, which means there's a real need for a corner who can play the slot. That would be King, I think. Big opportunity for him. I feel for Haddad, who surely must be aggravated that he's injured at the moment his opportunity awaits. Robinson, well, I think a seventh round rookie has a long road to make a 53 when there are players already acclimated to the NFL playing ahead of him - even if they're only sixth- and seventh-round picks and a converted NFL receiver with good athletic skills.

[bobblehead]

2 points this morning. With injuries already hitting our thin DB room wouldn't DeJean look better in green and gold than the Cooper we got? I know we are all excited, but honestly how did we not find a way to get DeJean on our team when he fell? At a minimum trade back in the first. Ok, thats my rant.

In better news MiLF is playing starters some in the preseason citing a study (and prior bobblehead rants) that says if you play no touch all summer then try and go 100% in week 1 it leads to MORE injuries. MiLF was quoted as saying "it seems bobblehead was right all along".

[Joemailman]

2 points this morning. With injuries already hitting our thin DB room wouldn't DeJean look better in green and gold than the Cooper we got? I know we are all excited, but honestly how did we not find a way to get DeJean on our team when he fell? At a minimum trade back in the first. Ok, thats my rant.

In better news MiLF is playing starters some in the preseason citing a study (and prior bobblehead rants) that says if you play no touch all summer then try and go 100% in week 1 it leads to MORE injuries. MiLF was quoted as saying "it seems bobblehead was right all along".

I could agree with you if Cooper looks like Quay Walker. But Cooper looks pretty special.

If they had to play a game without X and Hobbs, that would raise some real questions. Hobbs and Bullard are the 2 main slot guys, but Bullard might have to play safety if X is out. So who plays slot?

[bobblehead]

I could agree with you if Cooper looks like Quay Walker. But Cooper looks pretty special.

If they had to play a game without X and Hobbs, that would raise some real questions. Hobbs and Bullard are the 2 main slot guys, but Bullard might have to play safety if X is out. So who plays slot?

DeJean also looks pretty special. And he plays a much more premium position.

[Fritz]

I think your calculus is wrong. Was there a way to package the Packers' second second round pick (#58, Bullard) with the third they used on Marshawn Lloyd plus the third they used on Hopper to get ahead of the Eagles, a better offer than the one the Iggles made to get to #40?

But then again, maybe the Iggles would've ended up with Edgerrin Cooper as their consolation. I don't know. I just know that Cooper and Cooper would've been awesome; way better than E. Cooper plus Marshmallow Lloyd plus Javon Bullard. In other words, I'd take Cooper DeJean over Bullard plus Lloyd.

But again, who knows, if the Packers had pulled off the trade, that the Iggles wouldn't have gone after and gotten Edgerrin Cooper once the Pack got DeJean.

[Joemailman]

DeJean also looks pretty special. And he plays a much more premium position.

Actually the Eagles must have thought Packers were going to take DeJean. Packers had the 41st pick. Eagles traded up into the 40 spot and took DeJean. With DeJean gone, Packers traded down from 41 to 45 and took Cooper.

[texaspackerbacker]

I suppose people can find exceptions if they try, but in general, I think good Safetys are developed rather than drafted.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Actually the Eagles must have thought Packers were going to take DeJean. Packers had the 41st pick. Eagles traded up into the 40 spot and took DeJean. With DeJean gone, Packers traded down from 41 to 45 and took Cooper.

German Shepherd coulda gotten both Dejean and Cooper.

Sure, there are “Wu-Tang” (awesome) yokozunas like D’Brickishaw Ferguson and Orlando Pace worthy of a top 10 pick. Whoever ain’t Pace or Ferguson, machismo. Wasting a 1st on Whoever when there are plenty of Baks, Toms, Walkers, etc., to found on day 3 of the draft defines stupidity.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I just named 'em.

When the D got good last season, Jaire wasn't even playing.

Hobbs is injury-prone, a slot corner and can’t hold J-Alex’s jackstrap. Milton is a WR. Valentine proved last season why he was a 7th rounder - he sucks.

Nixon is no doubt the Pack’s best corner, which sucks, cos, Nixon ain’t a shutdown corner.

[bobblehead]

I think your calculus is wrong. Was there a way to package the Packers' second second round pick (#58, Bullard) with the third they used on Marshawn Lloyd plus the third they used on Hopper to get ahead of the Eagles, a better offer than the one the Iggles made to get to #40?

But then again, maybe the Iggles would've ended up with Edgerrin Cooper as their consolation. I don't know. I just know that Cooper and Cooper would've been awesome; way better than E. Cooper plus Marshmallow Lloyd plus Javon Bullard. In other words, I'd take Cooper DeJean over Bullard plus Lloyd.

But again, who knows, if the Packers had pulled off the trade, that the Iggles wouldn't have gone after and gotten Edgerrin Cooper once the Pack got DeJean.

Sure. Trade back in the first because there were still a ton of really good OL remaining. Or simply take him with out pick in the first. Also he went one pick ahead of us when the eagles traded up so I don't think its a stretch to think we could have made the move without sacrificing too much draft capital....but that part is simply speculation.