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It does seem like an awful lot of injuries.Originally posted by Fritz View PostIs this THE most injury-filled training camp in memory, or do I just panic every year?
Speaking of - well, not panic but disappointment - I thought Jacob Monk would be a very solid backup center this year, lining himself up to take over when Elgton Jenkins becomes unaffordable at season's end. But The Monkster has by all accounts had a disappointing training camp.
On the other hand, Ty'ron Hopper seems vastly improved and may be challenging Simmons for that #4 linebacker spot.
Monk has been very disappointing. When they lost Travis Glover, I thought they had lost their #9 OL. Turns out, if he were healthy he's be #7. I think the Packers have 6 legitimate starting OL, and then a big dropoff.
I think Hopper already is the #4 LB. The question is whether Simmons or Kristian Welch is the #5.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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- by Chad Reuter
The Packers Wire
@ThePackersWire
In need of depth at safety with injuries mounting, the Packers signed safety Jaylin Simpson, a fifth-round pick of the Colts in 2024. https://
By Lance Zierlein
NFL Analyst
Draft Projection
Rounds 4-5
Overview
Long defensive back with speed, athleticism and ball skills that might have teams posting him in the cornerback column instead of at safety. Simpson has started at both positions but might be caught between the two. He doesn’t support the run well enough to instill confidence as a last line of defense and he can be a little tardy to get his hips flipped in one-on-one transitions as a corner. Simpson does pedal and match receivers in space, balancing his eyes between route progressions and the quarterback as a high safety. He also contests catches with good success. He’s a good football player with explosive traits, but teams will need to have a plan for how to use him.
Strengths
Able to reroute from bump-and-run coverages when pressing.
Transitions from smooth backpedal to sudden gather and burst.
Above-average change-of-direction quickness and closing burst.
Natural ball-hawking instincts show up with his angles to the throw.
Length to meet catch point at the same time as the receiver.
Triggers from safety perch to strike crossing routes with jarring contact.
Weaknesses
Tall but slightly built with limited room for additional mass.
Gets pushed around by blockers as a safety or a cornerback.
Troubling angles in run support will turn into missed tackles and chunk runs.
Slight hiccup when trying to swivel hips in transition and run with go routes.
Ball-hawking aggression creates issues for him on double moves.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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The way Simmons has played at linebacker (not well), the question might be simply which one’s better on special teams?Originally posted by Joemailman View PostIt does seem like an awful lot of injuries.
Monk has been very disappointing. When they lost Travis Glover, I thought they had lost their #9 OL. Turns out, if he were healthy he's be #7. I think the Packers have 6 legitimate starting OL, and then a big dropoff.
I think Hopper already is the #4 LB. The question is whether Simmons or Kristian Welch is the #5."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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I think that's exactly what it is. Both are regarded as good ST players, but last game Welch had 20 ST snaps to Simmons' 7. Something to watch for Saturday.Originally posted by Fritz View PostThe way Simmons has played at linebacker (not well), the question might be simply which one’s better on special teams?I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Jacob Morley
@JacobMorley
Per @PFF
21 linebackers have played 70+ snaps this preseason.
Their top graded LB
Ty'Ron Hopper: 86.0 (High Quality)
Their lowest graded LB
Isaiah Simmons: 27.6 (Bad)I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Rob Demovsky
@RobDemovsky
Rookie DL Barryn Sorrell’s knee injury is a sprained MCL. He said he does not think he will be out more than a few weeks so perhaps he won’t need an IR-designated to return spot.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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They should be able to carry him on the 53 until he's ready. They can get by with Gary, Van Ness, Enagbare, and Cox/Mosby. Edgerrin Cooper has also been lining up at Edge some.Originally posted by MadScientist View PostFor knee injuries, that's decently good news. He should be ready by game 3.
Aaron Banks was out today with a recurring back issue. Morgan lined up with starters at LG. Waiver pickup at G/C a real possibility this year.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Hopper has looked pretty good against scrubs. Simmons has looked like shit against all levels of competition. Hopefully Simmons will be off the roster and spending his Sundays on the couch so I never have to see him on a football field again. Unless he wants to go play for the Bears or something.
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I was guilty of looking at numbers and not film on Simmons. He is just totally lost in coverage. I saw 2x a guy come into his zone and he simply sat tight in his position until the pass was completed and then ran to tackle. Just no instinct (knowledge??) what so ever regarding his responsibilities within his flat. It can't be not knowing the system as all zone responsibilities for an off ball LB are pretty similar. You just have to watch for the players coming into your zone and pick them up immediately. My hopes for him are dashed. He is a great athlete, just not a great football player....so Gutes will probably keep him around.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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WR/CB/Bootlicker, Matty Slater, got a nice career in Boston by being an “ace” and Belichick’s handyman.Originally posted by smuggler View PostHopper has looked pretty good against scrubs. Simmons has looked like shit against all levels of competition. Hopefully Simmons will be off the roster and spending his Sundays on the couch so I never have to see him on a football field again. Unless he wants to go play for the Bears or something.
6-4, 240, 4.40 40. Simmons has all the tools to be an ace and handyman. Question is, does the German Shepherd value “teams” playas? Gutekunst, a proud German, guy once cut ace Jeff Janis, so, unlikely.I don’t want a battle from beginning to end
I don’t want a cycle of recycled revenge
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Banks with a recurring back issue - that's worrisome.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostThey should be able to carry him on the 53 until he's ready. They can get by with Gary, Van Ness, Enagbare, and Cox/Mosby. Edgerrin Cooper has also been lining up at Edge some.
Aaron Banks was out today with a recurring back issue. Morgan lined up with starters at LG. Waiver pickup at G/C a real possibility this year.
And why did it take so long to put a guy named EDGErrin on the Edge? Come on, Matty Flower!"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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I think the Packers have 6 legitimate starters in the OL group. But they have zero dependable depth behind those guys. I'll be surprised if Gute doesn't make a waiver pickup or trade for a vet at G/C.Originally posted by Fritz View PostBanks with a recurring back issue - that's worrisome.
And why did it take so long to put a guy named EDGErrin on the Edge? Come on, Matty Flower!I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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