What Should Ed Policy Do With Matt La Fleur?

[Fosco33]

I’m not satisfied with .550 and 7 seeds with an ongoing failure to address obvious gaps thru the offseason (particularly at CB and ST). It’s been many years of poor performance for those units and the brasses incompetence in addressing them thru personnel and coaching.

If they keep LaFleur for his last year - the requirement to extend can only be a division win or at least getting to NFCC.

Or just slightly above average football?

[beveaux1]

What are you recommending?

Not really recommending anything. I can give an excuse. If we didn't have 19 players on injured reserve during the season, nearly 40% of our roster, we possibly would have had players on STs that could tackle a punt returner. We might also have had a replacement for Valentine.

It wouldn't have changed the choking kicker that we have, but maybe our center that came into the game with 40 seconds left would have been able to cleanly snap the ball to Love on what turned out to be the last play of the game instead of the chaos that happened because of a bad snap.

We choked this game away, but I don't believe LaFleur caused the choke. I do believe that it will be hard for him to coach the team next year with the way the fan's feel about him now.

[Deputy Nutz]

Calling a timeout, and then taking a delay of game is not on LaFleur?

[falco]

Not really recommending anything. I can give an excuse.

I think that's the hard part of this. There is no clear answer - there are contributing factors, and ultimately GB needs to parse how each contributed and decide if it is better to go in a different direction.

[beveaux1]

Calling a timeout, and then taking a delay of game is not on LaFleur?

No. All the timeouts are on LaFleur. The substitution problem with the defense wasted a timeout, and you could even argue that he took his last timeout too soon, but without the injury to Ryan and the 10 second runoff, we would certainly have stood a better chance to win the game.

[Joemailman]

I find it interesting that Bill Huber and Tom Silverstein have both said MLF needs to be fired. These are not reactionary guys. They sit right in front of MLF at every PC. I wonder if they would be calling for it if they didn't think there's a good chance of it happening. I've often had the sense Silverstein has a good source inside 1265.

Huber lays it on the line. https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/onsi/...d-with-packers

[bobblehead]

Until the second half, and its dumb to make a decision on one game, I was fully in his corner.

I am far less certain now.

I'm not in the emotions are lacking camp, they had a pre-kickoff near brawl that I think Walker helped initiate. And scored 21 points in the first half while holding them to 3. But the complete failure of the offense in the second half by a mediocre defense was embarrassing.

But it should be mentioned that in the first half you could see the D surrendering yards and drives again even as they had tightened up the run D and prevented touchdowns. It felt obvious the Bears were going to score more eventually. And that is after they had to adjust their protections to blunt the Packers pass rush which is a sentence we don't write much these days.

Even still, one more score, or successful kicks make this a win.

And a preemptory no on Harbaugh.

When Booker hit love helmet to helmet yet another time and there was zero retaliation I said fire LaFleur. I then put $100 on the bears to win the game at 5 to 1 when we were crushing them up to that point.

[bobblehead]

I'm pretty torn.

Who is better at his job....Flower or Gutebag ?

I would be fine dumping both, or keeping both on a very tight leash

NEITHER deserves extensions

No doubt Gutes is far worse. But the fact that lafleur played a man's game like a woman has me completely soured on him now. I think he is a brilliant offensive mind he knows how to call plays but for some reason he decided to do his best Mike McCarthy imitation way too many times this year.

[Joemailman]

Rob Demovsky
@RobDemovsky

Packers coach Matt LaFleur said he and team president Ed Policy spoke briefly on the flight home last night. He said he expects them to talk again either later tonight or tomorrow. Right now, LaFleur said “my sole focus is on our players and our team.”

[The Shadow]

Matt seems like a perfect example of a guy who can take a team from A to B - but no farther.

[Bretsky]

I think this is the part that everyone is missing. Is the GM responsible for the mess on the OL and the CB room?

EXACTLY !!!

Everybody in here wanted Cooper DeJean over Jordan Morgan, who doesn't seem to be good at any position. GB draft high RAS guys because they things they can plug them into multiple positions on the OL. He can't. I'm not sure, he can play any well.

And then we sign Nate Hobbs; great guy; marginal player.

Our cornerback room SUCKS. And then we wonder how our DC can get a job. They can't over anybody, and that is why we went from having a 95 percent chance to win to zero

WHERE is the What should Policy do with the marginal GM GUTEBAG ?

[sharpe1027]

They need a second half head coach to replace MLF on decisions and play calling.

[pbmax]

What about Stefanski?

Maybe. Especially if his defensive coordinator comes with him. But the Schwartz wouldn't be a fit with current personnel.

[Teamcheez1]

I’m not completely opposed to bringing MLF back, but other than the health of the players, what’s going to change?

[pbmax]

Is John H a failed head coach? I would take him in an instant and think he’d be a massive upgrade. His teams historically are strong in where the Packers are weak and he is unafraid to take big swings. The question is was that an organizational thing at Baltimore and would he be able to do that here?

I don’t follow the Ravens too closely but other than the Titans kicking their ass in 2020 I don’t recall them getting publicly beat up the way the Packers have been in some of these games. They don’t have a QB.

2 time MVP of the League is no QB? Next you will want to hire Sean McDermott because Josh Allen is a putz.