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  • #61
    Mediocre Matt better get it done next year. No need to extend imo. Lame duck or not.
    The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
    Vince Lombardi

    "Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by beveaux1 View Post
      I had time to think about this loss. Packers are up 21-3 at halftime and totally dominating the game. After 3 quarters, the Packers lead 21-6. Our OL (Walker) decided not to play in the 2nd half and we had 4 straight punts in the 3rd quarter due to abysmal line play.

      In the 4th quarter, the defense gave up 25 points. Think about that for a minute. We gave up 25 points in one quarter. In spite of that fact, we still SHOULD have won the game. Our offense responded with a TD drive and a FG drive, but our kicker missed an XP and missed the 44 yd FG.

      Had one of those kicks been made, we were in position to kick a game-tying or game winning FG. We should have scored 13 points in the 4th quarter. I really don't blame LaFleur for this loss. I do pin the blame on individuals in which the moment was too big for them.

      McManus, Walker, Valentine, the receivers with drops, the players on STs that couldn't cover a punt. We were in position, good position, to win this game. The coaches job is to put you in position to make plays. The players have to make plays. We didn't do it. The Bears did.
      I get what you are saying MiLF got them in the position to lose the game. But we have done this 3 times now. Multiple score lead with 5 minutes left in the game and we have lost.
      But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

      -Tim Harmston

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      • #63
        https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/g...ion-per-report

        According to ESPN’s Adam Schefter, the Packers still plan to extend LaFleur’s contract to retain him for at least one more season:


        In parsing the phrasing of that report, however, there are some intriguing details to break down. Ultimately, there remains plenty of uncertainty here — the terms “expected” and “try to work out” certainly indicate that there is no deal yet and that LaFleur’s return is not a guarantee.

        Heading into the weekend, the word on the street was that money was the sticking point for the two sides. That will surely be one of the points of discussion in contract talks that appear to be upcoming in the next few days.

        However, the length of an extension may also be a significant area of difference between the two sides. Given the team’s salary cap and roster situation, the organization may want to run things back with LaFleur for 2026 only and revisit the situation again next offseason. In that case, a one-year extension would be the team’s best option, as it would avoid LaFleur operating as a lame duck, while not committing to pay him long-term if they want next year to be a prove-it season.

        Would LaFleur accept such a deal? It is reasonable to think that he could make a hard push for a longer term. Given a dearth of high-level offensive-minded head coaching candidates this offseason and numerous job openings, he would surely find an appealing job quickly in the current market if the Packers let him go. He could use all of that as leverage to push hard for a longer-term contract. However, the Packers’ playoff performances under LaFleur and the team’s inability to close out games throughout the 2025 season take away a good bit of that leverage.

        If the two sides do come to an agreement, a shakeup of the rest of the coaching staff feels overdue, and it could be something that Policy mandates of LaFleur. The franchise’s approach has long been to keep coaching staff salaries to a minimum; perhaps a shift in leadership from Mark Murphy to Ed Policy could loosen those purse strings.

        Unfortunately, it seems that Packers fans will not have clarity on LaFleur’s future for at least a few more days. In the meantime, all we know is that the two sides plan to work on keeping LaFleur around for at least another season.
        I can't run no more
        With that lawless crowd
        While the killers in high places
        Say their prayers out loud
        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
        A thundercloud
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        • #64
          Flowers game management in the last 4 minutes was garbage. That loses you games.
          C.H.U.D.

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          • #65
            Ryan Wood
            @ByRyanWood

            Micah Parsons with strong vote of approval for Matt LaFleur to return as #Packers head coach, something he previously reached out to LaFleur privately to share.

            He said playing for LaFleur is one reason he agreed to trade before season.

            I can't run no more
            With that lawless crowd
            While the killers in high places
            Say their prayers out loud
            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
            A thundercloud
            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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            • #66
              Frankly, all this administrative posturing is giving me worse vibes than the coaching staff as is.

              Given them a deal, stop being cheap and let him hire coaches he wants. Why are personnel people helping hire coaches? He's not a noob first time HC.

              And open the purse strings. Its not like they are hurting for cash. Frankly this is all beginning to stink but its coming from upstairs, not the locker room or the coaching offices.
              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                I find it interesting that Bill Huber and Tom Silverstein have both said MLF needs to be fired. These are not reactionary guys. They sit right in front of MLF at every PC. I wonder if they would be calling for it if they didn't think there's a good chance of it happening. I've often had the sense Silverstein has a good source inside 1265.

                Huber lays it on the line. https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/onsi/...d-with-packers
                I’m holding out hope for this theory! Huber use to work for the Packer Report and I’ve had a few discussions at that time. And Silverstein most of us know.

                The fact that both these guys are saying Lafeur needs to be fired has to tell us something.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                  Why can't he (Policy) alienate the fans? You know how long the season ticket waiting list is?
                  Policy’s job is ultimately on the line with decisions such as this.

                  The Packer organization has been described as an, ‘Ole Boy’s Club’ so to me there’s enough old men that could stand against him on a brutal decision like to extend Lafleur now to a long term deal. Something has to be in the works, there’s gotta be some level of change coming, even if it’s an agreement to bring in new staff and perhaps a short term deal.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Vincenzo View Post
                    I’m holding out hope for this theory! Huber use to work for the Packer Report and I’ve had a few discussions at that time. And Silverstein most of us know.

                    The fact that both these guys are saying Lafeur needs to be fired has to tell us something.
                    All the talk today though is that LaFleur and Policy want an extension. And if you buy what Nagler and Mosqueda are saying, it might be about money.
                    I can't run no more
                    With that lawless crowd
                    While the killers in high places
                    Say their prayers out loud
                    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                    A thundercloud
                    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                      All the talk today though is that LaFleur and Policy want an extension. And if you buy what Nagler and Mosqueda are saying, it might be about money.
                      My issue with the likes of Schefter and Rapoport now is they put their opinions into the subject and have stopped just reporting facts as news to us. I don’t know what to believe, a lot of it is just pure opinion from reporters who actually don’t know as much about the Packers as we do. These guys cover the entire NFL while we watch every snap all season long, listen to the press conferences and podcasts.

                      I can’t recall the exact incident but I vaguely recall Adam Schefter coming off like a complete idiot reporting something that wasn’t even accurate. I mean I wouldn’t want to completely dismiss what some of these guys say but Huber and Silverstein seem a lot more credible.

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                      • #71
                        I think the contract length could also be a factor
                        MLF probably wants several years added to the contract.
                        If we keep him, I don’t want more than a year or two max.

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                        • #72
                          Wow, APB and Tony Oday are in agreement on this hahahaha - how could they possibly be wrong?

                          Seriously, one of the great hallmarks of the Packers is stability - not going off half-cocked to make changes, coaching being the primary one. LaFleur has done a good job, great or perfect? Questionable on that. This sorta goes to what I always say, consistent winning is superior to an occasional Super Bowl then collapse to mediocrity, NOT stupidly tearing down and rebuilding, NOT a feast and famine/boom and bust mentality. whatever. As that old song (the top song on the charts the year I graduated from high school, 1965) says, "let's hang on to what we've got".

                          I tend to think this whole manufactured mess about a coaching change is a product of God damned media pukes, several of which have been mentioned above.

                          Double post? I don't know how that happened.

                          Wow, now it's triple. All I tried to do was edit, and I don't think I did it wrong - must be a glitch. MadTown, can you get rid of the duplicate posts?
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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                            All the talk today though is that LaFleur and Policy want an extension. And if you buy what Nagler and Mosqueda are saying, it might be about money.
                            That's very revealing. I'm on the "they have to bring back MLF" train now. Moreover, they need to upgrade some coaches. It's 100% a front office problem.

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                            • #74
                              No news still?
                              I woulda thought Tuesday by the latest we woulda heard something. But Crickets Wednesday night still.

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                              • #75
                                I have noticed the Venn diagram of people who want to trade Love and run with Willis and the people who want to move on from La Fleur is nearly aligned. The use case for Willis is very closely aligned to La Fleur's approach.

                                Which will be funny in retrospect when the new coach tells the GM he needs a new QB to win with his system.
                                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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