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    Do we take him and have Rogers and Quinn fight it out? Sounds like he may face a Rogeresque (stole this from another thread) slide.

    Any thoughts? I think it would be a GREAT marketing thing for the Pack with Brother in laws on the same team
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    I really don't care for Quinn. If he falls to us, I'd rather have us draft someone else.
    All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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    • #3
      If he falls to us I'd trade down. I'd try and trade him to the Bears or maybe even Jacksonville for like an extra 4th or 5th.

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      • #4
        I would run to the podium with the slip selecting Quinn for Green Bay.

        You can never predict greatness for any college QB with any certainty, but Quinn has as good a chance to be great as any recent college QB. He is built more like a linebacker than a QB (I've seen him in person) and is a tireless worker, both in the gym and in the playbook. He will prepare physically and mentally to the best of his ability, and you can't ask for more than that. CW marveled at how well Quinn picked up his offense.

        I wouldn't hesitate for one second to set up a competition between Rodgers and Quinn when Favre retires.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Patler
          I would run to the podium with the slip selecting Quinn for Green Bay.

          You can never predict greatness for any college QB with any certainty, but Quinn has as good a chance to be great as any recent college QB. He is built more like a linebacker than a QB (I've seen him in person) and is a tireless worker, both in the gym and in the playbook. He will prepare physically and mentally to the best of his ability, and you can't ask for more than that. CW marveled at how well Quinn picked up his offense.

          I wouldn't hesitate for one second to set up a competition between Rodgers and Quinn when Favre retires.
          If you cannot predict greatness for a college QB, why pass on a different position player (in the first round nontheless) that will make a much better immediate impact than a guy who may not amount to anything and you won't know for 2 years? Granted, you may be speaking as if Brett is retired in your scenario.
          All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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          • #6
            I wouldn't pass on Quinn. He has been running an NFL style offense with college level players. He has a good arm and can read defenses. He seems to have the leadership qualities as well. That doesn't mean he will be a great NFL QB, but he has the skills. How can you take Rogers and not take Quinn? I still like that kid in Kentucky, Andre' Woodson. He posted a 154.5 rating and the three games I saw him play, he was unfrigginreal!
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig
              If you cannot predict greatness for a college QB, why pass on a different position player (in the first round nontheless) that will make a much better immediate impact than a guy who may not amount to anything and you won't know for 2 years? Granted, you may be speaking as if Brett is retired in your scenario.
              Well, ANYONE you pick in the first round runs the same risk, regardless of position. There have been shocking failures of "can't miss" prospects at just about every position, so the risk is no greater for a QB than for anyone else.

              BUT, there is no position more important to the long term success of a team than the QB. Without a good one you might have a year or two when everything falls into place for a run at the playoffs, but if you find a Favre, Brady, Manning, Montana, Elway, etc. etc you have a chance even when the rest of the team is mediocre. You have to have the QB for long-term success.

              The Packers have to plan for the post-Favre time, because with the short time he may have yet to play, all they will do is work on building the base. Favre may be their best option right now, but he can no longer carry the team as he did even a few years ago.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by MerlinWizard222
                I wouldn't pass on Quinn. He has been running an NFL style offense with college level players. He has a good arm and can read defenses. He seems to have the leadership qualities as well. That doesn't mean he will be a great NFL QB, but he has the skills. How can you take Rogers and not take Quinn? I still like that kid in Kentucky, Andre' Woodson. He posted a 154.5 rating and the three games I saw him play, he was unfrigginreal!
                Andre' Woodson? He's a junior. I doubt he will go early. A great kid who's learned to use everything to make his club move the ball. A great college QB who might never play a down in the NFL.

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                • #9
                  I would definitely not select Quinn. He really isn't as great as people make him up to be and we can't spend two first rounders on QB's in three years. Whether he's there or not, we just can't invest any more money in that position. If he is there, I wouldn't mind seeing the Packers trade down and pick up a few extra picks and still get someone they really want. I wouldn't be surprised if that happened.

                  Plus, we still have Rodgers, who still hasn't gotten a chance to prove himself. I think he'll be a very solid player when he gets the chance.

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                  • #10
                    I understand your point about QB and their importance.

                    I guess part of the reason I'm against Quinn is that why have 2 1st round picks as backups? Granted I know that many are not sold on Rodgers at all, but I just don't want to give up on the guy without him having a legit shot to prove himself. I don't consider the 2 blowouts over 2 years he was put in as a fair glimpse at what he can be.

                    What then happens if we take Quinn and Favre stays for a few more years. In 2 years when some very good QB falls to where we are, do we then take that QB in the first round in that draft as Quinn barely plays in those 2 years?

                    I just think there would be a better use of our pick or use him as leverage to obtain more picks by trading down.
                    All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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                    • #11
                      I'm not giving up on Rodgers at all, because he has not had a chance. But I don't mind "stockpiling" young QBs in the slightest. Keep the one you like and trade the other one when the time comes to chose between them.

                      Salary isn't an issue at all. The Packers cap is in good enough shape that it won't be a concern for a few years, and by that time Favre will have retired and if both QBs are able, one will be traded. If Quinn falls in the first, his contract will look similar to Rodgers', it will be big only if he becomes the starter.

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                      • #12
                        Ingle Martin is going to be a superstar, why would we take Quinn?
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Lurker64
                          Ingle Martin is going to be a superstar, why would we take Quinn?
                          Because we lost Craig Nall!

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                          • #14
                            Tough call...I guess it depends on who else is still on the board. He could end up being a hell of a QB even though the Golden Boys got bombed in another bowl game this year. TT could probably get one hell of a trade for that pick but who knows? Who picks behind us that needs a QB? The Bears? ha ha...
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                            • #15
                              To understand how good Quinn is you have to understand how bad Notre Dame was.
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