TURTLE ARTICLE- "DEEP POCKETS, SHALLOW PLANS"

[Bretsky]

My thing is that were we in the playoffs? No, so that means we werent doing something right. Im not saying to go out there and sign everyone but im saying to at least bring people in, i mean positions like TE and Saftey, to name a few, could definetely use some challenging for the starting postion

AMEN

[Bretsky]

hAMLIN HAS BEEN TO HOW MANY PROBOWLS AND HOW MANY GAMES TO INJURY HAS HE MISSED

GRANT

[falco]

It is sad when you search KFFL for the packers and all you find is a reference to Ahman Green heading to denver....

[imscott72]

I'm sticking to my story that I'm perfectly happy with the way TT is waiting this out. Let the market calm down instead of spending rediculous money on aging players. We will make some moves and fill some holes. I'd like to see the Moss deal done, pick up a safety, sign Green, and a solid guard. Just because we have the $$$ doesn't mean we have to spaz out and sign someone to a Clements type deal. I've always had faith in TT, and I still do.

[imscott72]

My thing is that were we in the playoffs? No, so that means we werent doing something right. Im not saying to go out there and sign everyone but im saying to at least bring people in, i mean positions like TE and Saftey, to name a few, could definetely use some challenging for the starting postion

AMEN

Thats not fair. We missed the playoffs on the last weekend of the year cause the Skins choked it off to the Giants. Give is the Rams, Saints, or the Bills game back we should of won and we're in. We were that close. Not only that but we we're playing as good as any team in the conference was at that time.

[red]

One more thing, Payton had much,much more talent in NO than Mc had in GB. MC did a fine job and so did Payton. I don't think Payton wouldd have done any better than MM in GB.

and what high priced big named free agent helped them the most?

drew brees

[Patler]

Re: FA

Yep, every one of those GM's from all those teams signing free agents are all idiots. What the hell is wrong with them? Don't they know signing high priced free agents is wrong? How dare they spend millions of dollars in order to help their teams improve.

It's ok guys, like TT has stated, Manuel just needed a year to adapt. Coming to a strange city was hard on him, plus he was recovering from the injury thing. The problems in the secondary were not all his fault per TT.

Remember next season the first time ANOTHER WR runs free in our secondary or ANOTHER QB makes Manuel bite on PA, that your beloved GM did'nt waste on money on Hamlin or Grant.

Shame on the Saints for bringing Hamlin in for a visit today. What on earth is Payton thinking?

I know you are trying to be sarcastic, but your statement is probably accurate. Time will probably show that many of the GM's are not very good. Professional sports is plagued with bad management. The NFL has been lucky. Their popularity has grown so much, and the league has done so much for the financial stability of the weakest teams that the truly incompetant just continue to blunder along, accomplishing nothing and being ecstatic with a winning season.

[Partial]

Sheesh, what an outrageous day of football.

[Charles Woodson]

For starters
Ahman Green ASAP, and I don't care if they overpay a bit anymore
One of Drew Bennett, Joe Horn, Stallworth, or Curtis.....all direly needed
Grant or Hamlin; again just make an effort to compete with other GM's
Hood; a player with upside like Al Harris when he came to Green Bay



Cheeers,
B

Browns | Team to meet with Hood
Sat, 3 Mar 2007 08:31:47 -0800

Mary Kay Cabot, of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, reports the Cleveland Browns will meet with free agent CB Roderick Hood (Eagles) Saturday, March 3.

[imscott72]

One more thing, Payton had much,much more talent in NO than Mc had in GB. MC did a fine job and so did Payton. I don't think Payton wouldd have done any better than MM in GB.

and what high priced big named free agent helped them the most?

drew brees

Colston being a monster rookie, Mr Bush, and Terrence Copper didn't hurt their cause...

[red]

yOU WANT TO MAKE A SPLASH, MOVE UP IN THE DRAFT TO PUT YOURSELF IN a position to draft CJ or Peterson.

that would mean moving up to at least the #3 spot

#3 spot = 2,200 points

our entire draft= 1,743.2

nest years number one draft pick is worth about half of what it would be this year

so for the 15th time in a week. it would take our entire draft this year and our #1 next year to move up to #3 to take CJ or AP. and theres no promise they'll be there at #3

we will not be trading up to take cj or ap. we don't even have any players with enough trade value to use to move up

[Bretsky]

My thing is that were we in the playoffs? No, so that means we werent doing something right. Im not saying to go out there and sign everyone but im saying to at least bring people in, i mean positions like TE and Saftey, to name a few, could definetely use some challenging for the starting postion

AMEN

Thats not fair. We missed the playoffs on the last weekend of the year cause the Skins choked it off to the Giants. Give is the Rams, Saints, or the Bills game back we should of won and we're in. We were that close. Not only that but we we're playing as good as any team in the conference was at that time.

We missed the playoffs because we were not good enough to beat the Rams or Bills or anybody with over a .500 record until the last game when the Bears didn't give their all out effort.

Not saying you are wrong; but bottom line is we were NOT good enough to be a contender and we need help at several positions.

[Bretsky]

One more thing, Payton had much,much more talent in NO than Mc had in GB. MC did a fine job and so did Payton. I don't think Payton wouldd have done any better than MM in GB.

and what high priced big named free agent helped them the most?

drew brees

GOSH THEY OVERPAID THAT GUY !! lol

[Charles Woodson]

My thing is that were we in the playoffs? No, so that means we werent doing something right. Im not saying to go out there and sign everyone but im saying to at least bring people in, i mean positions like TE and Saftey, to name a few, could definetely use some challenging for the starting postion

AMEN

Thats not fair. We missed the playoffs on the last weekend of the year cause the Skins choked it off to the Giants. Give is the Rams, Saints, or the Bills game back we should of won and we're in. We were that close. Not only that but we we're playing as good as any team in the conference was at that time.

Im not one to put down our play and yes we were "almost" in but if you look at the teams we beat and the teams we lost to, it really isnt impressive

-Wins: Detroit Miami Arizona, Minnesota San Fransisco Detroit Minnesota Chicago.

-Loses: Chicago, New Orleans, Phili, Saint Louis, Buffalo New England Seattle, New York.

Times we blew someone out (more than 10 points): 4 times, Detroit, Miami, Arizona, Chicago

Times we got blown out by someone (more than 10 points): 6 times, Chicago, Phili, Buffalo, New England, New york.

Its just that we had the secound easiest schedule and we won most of the easy games. But theres deffinetley a problem when you get blown out 6 times. Chicago was the only team that we beat that was over .500. I think that stat alone sums up our need for more talent. Yes i recognize that we are a building team, we werent suppose to win that many games last year and we deffinetly exceded my expectations for this team last year but as a building team we still need to add players that didnt perform well last year. TE and Saftey are the largest ones.

[esoxx]

One more thing, Payton had much,much more talent in NO than Mc had in GB. MC did a fine job and so did Payton. I don't think Payton wouldd have done any better than MM in GB.

and what high priced big named free agent helped them the most?

drew brees

Colston being a monster rookie, Mr Bush, and Terrence Copper didn't hurt their cause...

Yeah, but if Aaron Brooks was still pulling the trigger instead of Drew Brees they'd have finished maybe 8-8, probably worse.