Moss to Packers Talk Heating Up

[GrnBay007]

Hey Madtown...any idea where I can watch that clip that's quoted on your awesome sig where Moss says he has to see Brett Favre?

Ive been looking for it too but I only have seen it on the NFL Films stuff. It was from a MNF game @ Lambeau in 2000 I believe. I think it was the same game Freeman has the miracle catch in OT.

I think it's on the DVD that comes with the book "Favre", isn't it? I know I've seen it on a DVD.

[wist43]

Don't want any part of Moss... and don't think Rodgers can play. That said...

In a negative sense, you know what you get with Moss, i.e. a locker room cancer, malcontent, airhead, punk...

As for Rodgers, at least you know he hasn't completely failed - only insomuch as he really hasn't had his chance yet; of course, in his very limited exposure, he's shown nothing. Looks like a bust.

[GrnBay007]

Don't want any part of Moss... and don't think Rodgers can play. That said...

In a negative sense, you know what you get with Moss, i.e. a locker room cancer, malcontent, airhead, punk...

Other than his unhappiness at Oakland there hasn't been as much negative press about him as their used to be....TO took that spotlight. Maybe Randy has matured the last couple years.

[Brando19]

I can't find that clip of Moss saying how he's got to see Brett Favre, and I've been searching for it on youtube...but I did find this...pretty funny...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=w9tmc9_zK6g

[packers11]

it was on youtube... but I think they took it down when they started cracking down on the NFL license thingy...

[oregonpackfan]

Don't want any part of Moss... and don't think Rodgers can play. That said...

In a negative sense, you know what you get with Moss, i.e. a locker room cancer, malcontent, airhead, punk...

As for Rodgers, at least you know he hasn't completely failed - only insomuch as he really hasn't had his chance yet; of course, in his very limited exposure, he's shown nothing. Looks like a bust.

I agree completely with Wist on his assessment of Randy Moss.

With respect to Rodgers, I agree with him about 75%. We cannot know the complete view on Rodgers until we see him start and try to complete, a regular season game. Judging him by preseason and/or by "garbage time" during regular season games will not give us a complete picture on Rodgers.

[oregonpackfan]

3) Andrew Walter is the best QB of his year group. He is a better passer than Rodgers, Alex Smith, and Kyle Orton.


I agree with the amazing potential of Andrew Walter.

For two years, I saw Andrew Walter from Arizona State, completely pick aprart the secondaries of the Oregon Ducks and the Oregon State Beavers. I remember saying to myself, "This guy has NFL potential yet will probably be a sleeper in the draft."

I think Walter will develop into a legitimate NFL starting QB.

[imscott72]

I'm not in agreement with giving up Rodgers. I'd rather give up the 3rd and this is coming from someone who hates to give up draft picks. We'd be caught with out pants down if Brett got his ass kicked this year and said I've had enough. Even if we drafted QB in the 1st, he wouldn't be ready by next year, which means we have to sign some stiff off of another team to make due.
Rodgers hasn't been given a chance to show what he can do yet. We thought Hasselbeck sucked too, until he ended up getting a chance in Seattle.

[Rastak]

I'm not in agreement with giving up Rodgers. I'd rather give up the 3rd and this is coming from someone who hates to give up draft picks. We'd be caught with out pants down if Brett got his ass kicked this year and said I've had enough. Even if we drafted QB in the 1st, he wouldn't be ready by next year, which means we have to sign some stiff off of another team to make due.
Rodgers hasn't been given a chance to show what he can do yet. We thought Hasselbeck sucked too, until he ended up getting a chance in Seattle.

I thought they were demanding a 2nd.....

[imscott72]

I'm not in agreement with giving up Rodgers. I'd rather give up the 3rd and this is coming from someone who hates to give up draft picks. We'd be caught with out pants down if Brett got his ass kicked this year and said I've had enough. Even if we drafted QB in the 1st, he wouldn't be ready by next year, which means we have to sign some stiff off of another team to make due.
Rodgers hasn't been given a chance to show what he can do yet. We thought Hasselbeck sucked too, until he ended up getting a chance in Seattle.

I thought they were demanding a 2nd.....

He can demand all he wants. He was demanding a 1st not too long ago. I wouldn't give up a 2nd for Moss. Make Davis sweat it out...He'll take a 3rd..

[packerbacker1234]

Why would they take rodgers? There gonna have Jamarcus Russel anyways.

[Brando19]

With Rodgers...they could then take Calvin Johnson...the best player in the draft.

[POLISHHAWK]

I don't think we will make a move for Moss for quite some time. We will either steal him with a 4th rounder, or wait till he is CUT.

[Rastak]

I'm not in agreement with giving up Rodgers. I'd rather give up the 3rd and this is coming from someone who hates to give up draft picks. We'd be caught with out pants down if Brett got his ass kicked this year and said I've had enough. Even if we drafted QB in the 1st, he wouldn't be ready by next year, which means we have to sign some stiff off of another team to make due.
Rodgers hasn't been given a chance to show what he can do yet. We thought Hasselbeck sucked too, until he ended up getting a chance in Seattle.

I thought they were demanding a 2nd.....

He can demand all he wants. He was demanding a 1st not too long ago. I wouldn't give up a 2nd for Moss. Make Davis sweat it out...He'll take a 3rd..

I wouldn't be too sure, he's a senile idiot.


I'm not sure I'd take a 3rd for a guy I paid a 1 for two years ago.


On the flip side, I agree that Moss's ability to loaf when he's not 100% happy is legendary so it might be in the Raiders best interests to take what you suggest and let some other poor slob deal with him.
I know the Vikings loved him but the behind the scenes stuff got worse and worse....and the walk off the field thing was the last straw.



When I say the behind the scenes stuff, I don't mean bad locker room stuff, he's a great teammate from what I've read but he needles management to no end.

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I'm not in agreement with giving up Rodgers. I'd rather give up the 3rd and this is coming from someone who hates to give up draft picks. We'd be caught with out pants down if Brett got his ass kicked this year and said I've had enough. Even if we drafted QB in the 1st, he wouldn't be ready by next year, which means we have to sign some stiff off of another team to make due.
Rodgers hasn't been given a chance to show what he can do yet. We thought Hasselbeck sucked too, until he ended up getting a chance in Seattle.

I thought they were demanding a 2nd.....

He can demand all he wants. He was demanding a 1st not too long ago. I wouldn't give up a 2nd for Moss. Make Davis sweat it out...He'll take a 3rd..

I wouldn't be too sure, he's a senile idiot.


I'm not sure I'd take a 3rd for a guy I paid a 1 for two years ago.


On the flip side, I agree that Moss's ability to loaf when he's not 100% happy is legendary so it might be in the Raiders best interests to take what you suggest and let some other poor slob deal with him.
I know the Vikings loved him but the behind the scenes stuff got worse and worse....and the walk off the field thing was the last straw.



When I say the behind the scenes stuff, I don't mean bad locker room stuff, he's a great teammate from what I've read but he needles management to no end.

i agree davis is a senile old idiot.

but i don't see how they can keep him. he won't play for them, won't talk to the new coaches, and is going to cost you 12 million this year to watch him not do anything

i think davis HAS to get rid of him before the season, am just not sure if he's smart enough to figure that out.

if we put a 3rd on the table, he might have to take it at some point, or end up cutting moss to free up cap money so they can sign draft picks and get nothing. of course someone else could them swoop in and make a better offer