Green Signs With Texans

[Rastak]

god this is so fucked up. all ahman wanted was 5 mil, he get's 6.5 GUARANTEED. its a shame ahman has to leave green bay to finally get due compensation for being the great player he was for the pack. )

He's getting a 6.5 signing bonus and a salary of 8 million in his first year. That's 14.5 million in his pocket for one year. That sounds like a lot more than the five million that was "all he wanted."

He's not getting 8 mil in salary in addition to the bonus. He's getting 8mil TOTAL. That's a salary of 1.5 plus a bonus.... If you stopped trying to spin this favorably and just learned to read and do simple math.... you'd see.

This is screwed up. SCREWED UP. Open your eyes...

RG, you're turning into quite a troll lately. Is is a good idea for a moderator to be a troll?

At the very least, your new outlook doesn't match the "Kool-Aid" appellation and avatar.

Good point...where's the blind optimism?


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Well, let me somewhat correct that smart ass response. A troll is a guy or gal who posts on a board to bait people. Isn't it just possible it's his honest opinion? Are only certain opinions allowed?

[Packnut]

Why

All that matters is the guarenteed money...

$6.5 is nothing... I'm surprised at how much you guys under rate Green.

Go back and look at the tapes from last year... had very little running room. Turned 2 yds into 4; turned 4 into 8... The Packers are definitely going to miss his toughness, burst, blocking.

He's a damn good back who won't be easy to replace... the Packers definitely took hit by losing him.

Why should it surprise you? According to some here, Herron and Morency will be a dynamite duo and we have a solid WR corps. People see what they want, not what has been right in front of their eyes. I'm done. If it makes some here happy to believe bullshit, then who am I to rain on their parade.

Keep Manuel at saftey and count on a rookie RB with Morency. Let's watch Bubba drop a few more. God forbid we over-pay for a need player. Let's just build through the draft and hope that in 3 years, we're competetive.

Everythings ok. Just believe in Ted and everything will work out fine. Why you ask? Cause that's the way we all want it!

[retailguy]

Good point...where's the blind optimism?


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Well, let me somewhat correct that smart ass response. A troll is a guy or gal who posts on a board to bait people. Isn't it just possible it's his honest opinion? Are only certain opinions allowed?

Well. Interesting. A troll? Hardly.

I've put up with so much shit related to my dislike for Thompson, and my appreciation for Mike Sherman, I frankly don't care what anyone thinks of me right now.

I have maintained for MONTHS that Thompson makes A J Smith look like a pushover, and his "methods" may work, but, ala Seattle, will take YEARS to implement.

I've watched uninformed idiots pontificate on and on and on about how Sherman was STUPID to let KGB get to Free Agency and then had to overpay to keep him, now those same people are trying to defend this with Ahman Green today.

The double standard would be funny if we weren't watching it unfold before our eyes.

Say what you will about Mike Sherman, but, there was never this secretive shit, there was always a plan. Whether you agreed with it or not, there was a plan. You knew what holes he was trying to patch, and this was not a bad thing, in my mind anyhow.

I read that Thompson "negotiated" all day before refusing to match the offer to Green. Translation - HE MISCALCULATED Ahman's value. HE SCREWED UP.

Now, we will see if there is a backup plan. I am NOT optimistic.

I probably am not the "kool-aid" guy any longer. I do not buy into what this regime appears to be doing. It, quite frankly, sickens me.

[Brando19]

I predicted this sh*t to everyone from day one! I knew when Green visited Sherman and the Texans...we'd never see him again in a Packer uniform! This sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[GBRulz]

Let the tire slashing begin....... grrrrrrr. GD TT!!! WHY?? Yeah, I'm just pissed, dunno what else to say.

and RG, what's with the 'tude lately towards people? Not a good sight when a mod is arguing with the posters. Which is why I would never be one

[Jimx29]

No 30 yr old running back 1½ yrs off of a very severe leg injury is worth anywhere near 24 mil-4 years w/6 mil guaranteed. Period

[RashanGary]

Oh, come on RG. It hurts to see Ahman Green go but in all fairness; he is in the final leg of his career and he will be worse every year from now untill he retires.

Is it hard to see such a dedicated and once dominate player go? Sure, but it's not like we lost the guy in his prime. He's one 30 something injury away from being out of the NFL.

Sick is a little bit of a strong word and the tone that came along with it was certainly over the top.

You've been a big influence on my view of Sherman. He made some good moves in the draft. He acctually did OK except that he traded away so many picks. He did some good things like Clifton and Harris. He also did some bad things. The blind loyalty to Sherman and the hatred t'ward the guy who relpaced him seems to me more emotion than reason. Was he your neighbor or does he have alot of qualities that you see in yourself? For whatever reason, you take this way too personal.

[Rastak]

Oh, come on RG. It hurts to see Ahman Green go but in all fairness; he is in the final leg of his career and he will be worse every year from now untill he retires.

Is it hard to see such a dedicated and once dominate player go? Sure, but it's not like we lost the guy in his prime. He's one 30 something injury away from being out of the NFL.

Sick is a little bit of a strong word and the tone that came along with it was certainly over the top.

You've been a big influence on my view of Sherman. He made some good moves in the draft. He acctually did OK except that he traded away so many picks. He did some good things like Clifton and Harris. He also did some bad things. The blind loyalty to Sherman and the hatred t'ward the guy who relpaced him seems to me more emotion than reason. Was he your neighbor or does he have alot of qualities that you see in yourself? For whatever reason, you take this way too personal.

All emotional stuff aside if TT can draft a solid back this year and maybe sign a veteran to help transition the Pack is probably fine. Green's solid blitz pickup could bite them in the tukus but said veteran could presumably take up that slack.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Sherman was not that bad. He signed some guys and traded away some picks he shouldnt have, but he main goal in doing that was for us to win. I can respect that.

[retailguy]

and RG, what's with the 'tude lately towards people? Not a good sight when a mod is arguing with the posters. Which is why I would never be one

Well. Tired of listening to the "spin" I guess. Tired of listening to people say they "love tt" in one thread then bash him in another. Tired of hearing opinions about "who TT is going to trade for", and then hearing "it's a good thing TT builds through the draft". (translation - TT will trade for the guy I LIKE, yeah, right) Then watching someone, intentionally or not, overstate figures in the contract to make it look like a "good thing" that TT did not match the contract, when the real question is why the hell did he put himself in the position to HAVE TO match the contract.

Now, for the next two weeks all we will hear about is "Don't Worry, he's got a plan". What plan? He'll be writing one for the next two weeks.

Whether I'm a "mod" or not, I'm going to let you know when I disagree with you. Believe me, if I can't back it up, I don't open my mouth. I've been passive, supportive, and in the "team environment", for too long, and I can't for the life of me figure out what the plan is. I am convinced there isn't one, at least one that works in the short term.

I'm sick of listening to people bash an honest man, and support a dishonest one.

I'm on the wagon - FOR 2009, that is. TT just created a BIG HOLE for 2007, and I don't see how it gets filled. It took the OL 13 weeks to gel. Now we get to start over training a replacement running back.... GREAT!! Can't wait...

[RashanGary]

I know Ras. I don't know what to think of this move. It's right on the border of questioning at the very least.

Jenkins was an obvious good move and it looks even better after watching journymen sign 50 million dollar deals.

If it was 10 mil up front and 30 mil in 4 years it would be obvious. If it was 4 mil per year, I would be slashing TT's tires but this deal is right on the border. It might bite us in the ass or Green might go down for the count with the inherant injury risk of athletes over 30.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Can we please get back to ripping the Vikings signing of Shiancoe?


Damn! I wanted him to beat the rushing record. Maybe he'll come back as a backup in two years (ala Dorsey Levens and Antonio Freeman) to beat it.

[Rastak]

I know Ras. I don't know what to think of this move. It's right on the border of questioning at the very least.

Jenkins was an obvious good move and it looks even better after watching journymen sign 50 million dollar deals.

If it was 10 mil up front and 30 mil in 4 years it would be obvious. If it was 4 mil per year, I would be slashing TT's tires but this deal is right on the border. It might bite us in the ass or Green might go down for the count with the inherant injury risk of athletes over 30.

That's absolutely a risk for Houston. When an athlete loses it, it can go fast and the team is left holding the bag....it's a bit of a risk for the Texans although Green didn;t look too bad last year so maybe they can get one solid year out of him at minimum.

[retailguy]

All emotional stuff aside if TT can draft a solid back this year and maybe sign a veteran to help transition the Pack is probably fine. Green's solid blitz pickup could bite them in the tukus but said veteran could presumably take up that slack.

I'm sure he will draft a solid back. But will that back contribute this year? Possibly, but not likely.

Green was taken for a reason. He can help Houston NOW. I thought the goal was to win NOW. That's what the brass says anyhow... It would have cost, what, 1.5 mil more to train the back behind Green, now we'll have to train the guy, who'll train the guy to replace him... This makes sense?

I saw two big holes on the offense. TE & WR. Now there are THREE. All skill positions. Maybe RB gets filled, but what are the odds ALL THREE get filled?

I watched some very winnable games go awry this past season because of issues at WR and TE. ONE MORE PLAYER last year possibly changed the outcome of a few games. A few games might have made this a competitive team.

It doesn't have to be this way, whether you all think I'm too emotional or not... it really doesn't have to be this way.

[the_idle_threat]

god this is so fucked up. all ahman wanted was 5 mil, he get's 6.5 GUARANTEED. its a shame ahman has to leave green bay to finally get due compensation for being the great player he was for the pack. )

He's getting a 6.5 signing bonus and a salary of 8 million in his first year. That's 14.5 million in his pocket for one year. That sounds like a lot more than the five million that was "all he wanted."

He's not getting 8 mil in salary in addition to the bonus. He's getting 8mil TOTAL. That's a salary of 1.5 plus a bonus.... If you stopped trying to spin this favorably and just learned to read and do simple math.... you'd see.

This is screwed up. SCREWED UP. Open your eyes...

RG, you're turning into quite a troll lately. Is is a good idea for a moderator to be a troll?

At the very least, your new outlook doesn't match the "Kool-Aid" appellation and avatar.

Good point...where's the blind optimism?


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Well, let me somewhat correct that smart ass response. A troll is a guy or gal who posts on a board to bait people. Isn't it just possible it's his honest opinion? Are only certain opinions allowed?

I'm not referring to opinions expressed about TT, or Sherman for that matter. As fans, it's fair game for us to judge one GM or another as bad or good, or, in an emotional moment, as an "idiot." But can any of us have an honest opinion that another poster here needs to "learn to read and do simple math?" It's the ad-hominem attacks that are bothersome to me. And it's been happening a lot lately. People are getting way too testy around here regarding things they cannot control. Let's cool off, folks!