Green Signs With Texans

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

and RG, what's with the 'tude lately towards people? Not a good sight when a mod is arguing with the posters. Which is why I would never be one

Well. Tired of listening to the "spin" I guess. Tired of listening to people say they "love tt" in one thread then bash him in another. Tired of hearing opinions about "who TT is going to trade for", and then hearing "it's a good thing TT builds through the draft". (translation - TT will trade for the guy I LIKE, yeah, right) Then watching someone, intentionally or not, overstate figures in the contract to make it look like a "good thing" that TT did not match the contract, when the real question is why the hell did he put himself in the position to HAVE TO match the contract.

Now, for the next two weeks all we will hear about is "Don't Worry, he's got a plan". What plan? He'll be writing one for the next two weeks.

Whether I'm a "mod" or not, I'm going to let you know when I disagree with you. Believe me, if I can't back it up, I don't open my mouth. I've been passive, supportive, and in the "team environment", for too long, and I can't for the life of me figure out what the plan is. I am convinced there isn't one, at least one that works in the short term.

I'm sick of listening to people bash an honest man, and support a dishonest one.

I'm on the wagon - FOR 2009, that is. TT just created a BIG HOLE for 2007, and I don't see how it gets filled. It took the OL 13 weeks to gel. Now we get to start over training a replacement running back.... GREAT!! Can't wait...

And am tried of you. Do you really need me to explain it you again? If I say I like TT for not signing players that are not worth it, does that automatically mean I can't want TT to sign Green. And if he doesn't I can get mad? Just go to hell.

[Rastak]

god this is so fucked up. all ahman wanted was 5 mil, he get's 6.5 GUARANTEED. its a shame ahman has to leave green bay to finally get due compensation for being the great player he was for the pack. )

He's getting a 6.5 signing bonus and a salary of 8 million in his first year. That's 14.5 million in his pocket for one year. That sounds like a lot more than the five million that was "all he wanted."

He's not getting 8 mil in salary in addition to the bonus. He's getting 8mil TOTAL. That's a salary of 1.5 plus a bonus.... If you stopped trying to spin this favorably and just learned to read and do simple math.... you'd see.

This is screwed up. SCREWED UP. Open your eyes...

RG, you're turning into quite a troll lately. Is is a good idea for a moderator to be a troll?

At the very least, your new outlook doesn't match the "Kool-Aid" appellation and avatar.

Good point...where's the blind optimism?


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Well, let me somewhat correct that smart ass response. A troll is a guy or gal who posts on a board to bait people. Isn't it just possible it's his honest opinion? Are only certain opinions allowed?

I'm not referring to opinions expressed about TT, or Sherman for that matter. As fans, it's fair game for us to judge one GM or another as bad or good, or, in an emotional moment, as an "idiot." But can any of us have an honest opinion that another poster here needs to "learn to read and do simple math?" It's the ad-hominem attacks that are bothersome to me. And it's been happening a lot lately. People are getting way too testy around here regarding things they cannot control. Let's cool off, folks!

Don't make me pull my Rodney King speech out dammit!

[the_idle_threat]

[BallHawk]

I wonder what Mr. Favre thinks of this. I doubt he'll express his feelings besides the usual things players say.

The RB battle in training camp will certainly be a fierce one. I expect that Vernand Morency will triumph over Kenny Irons to become the number one back. However, whoever TT drafts, we will use an attack similar to Indianapolis, using both RBs equally.

[retailguy]

I'm not referring to opinions expressed about TT, or Sherman for that matter. As fans, it's fair game for us to judge one GM or another as bad or good, or, in an emotional moment, as an "idiot." But can any of us have an honest opinion that another poster here needs to "learn to read and do simple math?" It's the ad-hominem attacks that are bothersome to me. And it's been happening a lot lately. People are getting way too testy around here regarding things they cannot control. Let's cool off, folks!

Ok, well, let me explain this. Total deal is 22 mil over 4 years. 14.6 mil less 22 mil leaves about 7.4 for the final 3 years. If we are all thinking about what we're posting.... Well that's another story I guess.

If I offended the poor chap, I'm sorry.

I have very little tolerance for the blind defense of this move. By most accounts, (not just my crazy emotional opinion) this is a stupid, stupid loss.

We didn't have to "break the bank" to keep this guy. Thompson put himself in a position to lose and he lost. We'll see how he responds, I guess.

I'll slip away now and deal with this on my own. Obviously, there are expectations on me that I'm not meeting, so I'll just refrain from speaking for a while and read.

[Lurker64]

In my defense I was going off of "an NFL source said will pay Green $8 million in the first year", which I had figured was salary, combined with the confirmed $6.5 million signing bonus. It's not my fault people use imprecise language.

Ironically, I have a master's degree in mathematics and am working on my PhD.

[PackerPro42]

I wonder what Mr. Favre thinks of this. I doubt he'll express his feelings besides the usual things players say.

The RB battle in training camp will certainly be a fierce one. I expect that Vernand Morency will triumph over Kenny Irons to become the number one back. However, whoever TT drafts, we will use an attack similar to Indianapolis, using both RBs equally.

I expect a turd to triumph over Kenny Irons, the guy sucks.

[Rastak]

I'm not referring to opinions expressed about TT, or Sherman for that matter. As fans, it's fair game for us to judge one GM or another as bad or good, or, in an emotional moment, as an "idiot." But can any of us have an honest opinion that another poster here needs to "learn to read and do simple math?" It's the ad-hominem attacks that are bothersome to me. And it's been happening a lot lately. People are getting way too testy around here regarding things they cannot control. Let's cool off, folks!

Ok, well, let me explain this. Total deal is 22 mil over 4 years. 14.6 mil less 22 mil leaves about 7.4 for the final 3 years. If we are all thinking about what we're posting.... Well that's another story I guess.

If I offended the poor chap, I'm sorry.

I have very little tolerance for the blind defense of this move. By most accounts, (not just my crazy emotional opinion) this is a stupid, stupid loss.

We didn't have to "break the bank" to keep this guy. Thompson put himself in a position to lose and he lost. We'll see how he responds, I guess.

I'll slip away now and deal with this on my own. Obviously, there are expectations on me that I'm not meeting, so I'll just refrain from speaking for a while and read.

You certainly have a right to express yourself. I wouldn't disappear because you are a mod. But I don't think it's as bad as you are thinking.
Unless a replacement sucks at pass protection GB will most likely be ok.....this assumes TT get's off his ass and gets a replacement one way or another.

[RashanGary]

In defense of Morency, I thought he was a more effective back while he was in than Green. He had better YPG and he had that burst to and through the hole that Green used to have but now seems to be losing.

I serioiusly question Morency's durability though. I can't see him staying healthy. RB is our biggest need right now. RB and FB.

[BallHawk]

I wonder what Mr. Favre thinks of this. I doubt he'll express his feelings besides the usual things players say.

The RB battle in training camp will certainly be a fierce one. I expect that Vernand Morency will triumph over Kenny Irons to become the number one back. However, whoever TT drafts, we will use an attack similar to Indianapolis, using both RBs equally.

I expect a turd to triumph over Kenny Irons, the guy sucks.

Ahh, Wausau, haven't seen you in a while. I missed your blind negativism and fair and balanced analysis. Good to have you back.

[PackerPro42]

I wonder what Mr. Favre thinks of this. I doubt he'll express his feelings besides the usual things players say.

The RB battle in training camp will certainly be a fierce one. I expect that Vernand Morency will triumph over Kenny Irons to become the number one back. However, whoever TT drafts, we will use an attack similar to Indianapolis, using both RBs equally.

I expect a turd to triumph over Kenny Irons, the guy sucks.

Ahh, Wausau, haven't seen you in a while. I missed your blind negativism and fair and balanced analysis. Good to have you back.

I had to take off a little time off because of your ridiculous posts. And wouldn't you consider consistantly downgrading Lynch as bling negativism and poor analysis?

[HarveyWallbangers]

In defense of Morency, I thought he was a more effective back while he was in than Green. He had better YPG and he had that burst to and through the hole that Green used to have but now seems to be losing.

I serioiusly question Morency's durability though. I can't see him staying healthy. RB is our biggest need right now. RB and FB.

I'm assuming you mean YPC, and that can be misleading when comparing a starter to a backup. Turner had a better YPC than Tomlinson. Bennett had a better YPC than Larry Johnson.

So, in the games they were going against bad run defenses, Morency had 42 of his 91 rushing attempts. That's 46.1% of his rushing total. In those three games, Ahman had 21 of his 266 rushing attempts. That's 7.8% of his rushing total. Against bad run defenses.

Conversely, in the five games against the toughest rushing opponents, Ahman had 95 of his 266 rushing attempts. That's 35.7%. Morency had 14 of 91 rushing attempts. That's 15.3%. Against good run defenses.

[GBRulz]

I was in the big city of W today. I can't say Warsaw because PP gets mad

Gosh it looks so different since when I lived there.

[BallHawk]

I wonder what Mr. Favre thinks of this. I doubt he'll express his feelings besides the usual things players say.

The RB battle in training camp will certainly be a fierce one. I expect that Vernand Morency will triumph over Kenny Irons to become the number one back. However, whoever TT drafts, we will use an attack similar to Indianapolis, using both RBs equally.

I expect a turd to triumph over Kenny Irons, the guy sucks.

Ahh, Wausau, haven't seen you in a while. I missed your blind negativism and fair and balanced analysis. Good to have you back.

I had to take off a little time off because of your ridiculous posts. And wouldn't you consider consistantly downgrading Lynch as bling negativism and poor analysis?

Such as....

[PackerPro42]

Did you go over the new snake bridge GBRulz?