Perfect Match for WR issue

[Spaulding]

KFFL is reporting the following:

Eagles | Stallworth might go for one-year deal
Fri, 9 Mar 2007 02:16:07 -0800

Les Bowen, of the Philadelphia Daily News, reports agent Drew Rosenhaus and unrestricted free-agent WR Donte' Stallworth (Eagles) might decide to go for a one-year deal and then attack free agency again next year. There doesn't seem to be a lot of interest in the former Philadelphia Eagles wide receiver at the $10 million-to-$15 million guaranteed-money level that Rosenhaus apparently envisioned.

Given this I'd love to see us rent Stallworth for a year and maximize possibly Brett's last year. No loss of draft picks, little risk if Donte washes out due to substance abuse program, etc.

Although I wouldn't mind seeing Moss in Green and Gold to see what he and Favre could do, this seems to be a much better option with far less risk.

[retailguy]

I think our need for a "starter material" WR dimmed a bit when we let Green go.

Since we don't have a "top flight" back, "beefing" up the WR core, could be a waste of time. They'll be no need to put an 8th man in the box to stop the run, so that defender will be available for coverage responsibilities negating the benefit of the talent.

Quite honestly, if there isn't a solution to the RB problem we might as well just resign ourselves to letting the young guys develop.

If the plan is to build long-term, that's the more prudent course of action.

But make no mistake, I'd rather win now, because I think with a few plugged holes, THEY CAN.

Obviously, the Green Bay Packers disagree with me - and you.

[Ballboy]

Isn't this guy going to be suspended for a couple games?

Why would we want that again?

[Spaulding]

As far as I know he's not yet subject to suspension. Only part of the program due to past trangressions and thus forced to take additional random tests.

[woodbuck27]

I think our need for a "starter material" WR dimmed a bit when we let Green go.

Since we don't have a "top flight" back, "beefing" up the WR core, could be a waste of time. They'll be no need to put an 8th man in the box to stop the run, so that defender will be available for coverage responsibilities negating the benefit of the talent.

Quite honestly, if there isn't a solution to the RB problem we might as well just resign ourselves to letting the young guys develop.

If the plan is to build long-term, that's the more prudent course of action.

But make no mistake, I'd rather win now, because I think with a few plugged holes, THEY CAN.

Obviously, the Green Bay Packers disagree with me - and you.

On the whole I agree with your thoughts retailguy.

I'd add this only in an attempt to lend to OUR understanding:

Is it too early to see what Ted Thompson's PLAN is for 2007? Has it got anything to do with wining now?

Based on recent appeareances. This will be a season for the team's coaching staff to take stock and bring back as much $ as possible to the CAP space.

If that's it?

Why waste alot of CAP space on an expensive WR when the running game was bad last season and may get worse in 2007? Without strength in an ability to run the ball opposing defenses will have little difficulty defending against a pass oriented offense.

I feel that the loss of Ahman Green and his knowledge and experience in OUR system was significant.

For fans hoping for us to take a step forward in 2007, the loss of Ahman Green and TT's obvious decision not to go forward with a back-up plan to acquire a proven RB for 2007 is certainly significant. These are difficult times for fans hungry for OUR team to be truly competitive.For those of us that felt we could get there with a few solid additions in this off season.

For those fans that remain optimistic for OUR success in this season. I commend all of you.

It appears to me that Ted Thompson is still looking beyond 2007?

GO Packers !

[Partial]

Maybe he is going to lock Barnett up for 1 mil per year for 5 years and give him 20 mil up front in 2007?

[woodbuck27]

Maybe he is going to lock Barnett up for 1 mil per year for 5 years and give him 20 mil up front in 2007?

Hopefully TT learned something about that from the Javon Walker issue.

[gureski]

How is Stallworth anywhere near the type of player we'd want on the Packers next year?

He's consistantly injured and has had attitude problems with teammates, coaches, and the front office throughout his career.

He's precisely the kind of guy I hope the Packers stay away from. He's a cancer. He's not a team player. Why bring in a guy who isn't in it for the long-haul? He will do more damage while he's here auditioning for his next gig then he will do anything to help the team.

[Partial]

How is Stallworth anywhere near the type of player we'd want on the Packers next year?

He's consistantly injured and has had attitude problems with teammates, coaches, and the front office throughout his career.

He's precisely the kind of guy I hope the Packers stay away from. He's a cancer. He's not a team player. Why bring in a guy who isn't in it for the long-haul? He will do more damage while he's here auditioning for his next gig then he will do anything to help the team.

Yep, but the anti-TT folk look Redskins with envy and want to make a move merely for the sake of making of move. Very few of the FA would have made much of a difference this year, and the few premiere ones would have been a waste of money based on their positions.

[retailguy]

Yep, but the anti-TT folk look Redskins with envy and want to make a move merely for the sake of making of move. Very few of the FA would have made much of a difference this year, and the few premiere ones would have been a waste of money based on their positions.

Partial, this is BS and you know it.... Nobody is asking for the Redskins. We're asking for some holes to be plugged with starter material. Doesn't have to be "idiot deals".

There are better guys out there than there are on the roster.

[Partial]

Yep, but the anti-TT folk look Redskins with envy and want to make a move merely for the sake of making of move. Very few of the FA would have made much of a difference this year, and the few premiere ones would have been a waste of money based on their positions.

Partial, this is BS and you know it.... Nobody is asking for the Redskins. We're asking for some holes to be plugged with starter material. Doesn't have to be "idiot deals".

There are better guys out there than there are on the roster.

Respond to my post where I went through and listed the premium free agents.

[retailguy]

Respond to my post where I went through and listed the premium free agents.

Quite honestly, it's not worth a response.

[Partial]

Respond to my post where I went through and listed the premium free agents.

Quite honestly, it's not worth a response.

It's a brilliant post. If you want to be a TT critic than you should be able to answer all the tough questions.

[woodbuck27]

How is Stallworth anywhere near the type of player we'd want on the Packers next year?

He's consistantly injured and has had attitude problems with teammates, coaches, and the front office throughout his career.

He's precisely the kind of guy I hope the Packers stay away from. He's a cancer. He's not a team player. Why bring in a guy who isn't in it for the long-haul? He will do more damage while he's here auditioning for his next gig then he will do anything to help the team.

Yep, but the anti-TT folk look Redskins with envy and want to make a move merely for the sake of making of move. Very few of the FA would have made much of a difference this year, and the few premiere ones would have been a waste of money based on their positions.

The anti-TT folk,mmmm.

Who are these fans?

Ted Thompson has been OUR GM for going on three seasons. Since he arrived OUR record has been a combined 12W and 20L.

Talented footbal players just don't arrive in Green Bay and lend support for success. It's up to Ted Thompson to secure that, by always trying to make the Packers more competitive.

I agree that Ted Thompson had to get the Packer house in order. He had to get OUR CAP space in order. We see that burdened by the fact of two successive poor seasons. Yet with promise in 2006 of a better 2007.

We had alot 0f CAP space in 2006. We may agree on gains with the additions of CB Charles Woodson and DT Ryan Pickett as this past season unfolded.We are pleased that TT resigned Aaron Kampman after we almost fumbled him away, and extended Cullen Jenkins and Al Harris recently.

Not attempting to beat a dead horse here but to gan insight.


Ted Thompson elected to resign Ahman Green for only one season. He worked his tail off to recondition and help OUR running game, that wasn't as a whole very good but can we fault Ahman Green, his work ethic?

I don't believe so.

Wouldn't it have been more prudent for Ted Thompson to re-sign Ahman Green for two or three seasons? He'd be what. . .33 years old then.

Was there too much risk for Ted Thompson to make that move happen last off season?

I have always maintained that Ted Thompson isnt the known quality at GM that many here believe he is. Evidence that he's a GM in training.

I am certain that Ted Thompson is in charge and that he's OUR immediate future. I suspect that's not a constant.

It's my position that a GM has to have a plan that is based on two ideals. Proper operation that includes a sound economic policy and with success measured based on a PLAN.

The evidence of not getting that second part right is clear. Packer fan appreciation is in a downspin as OUR team remains uncompetitive, yet, ticket prices are rising.

How long has Ted Thompson got to get it all together? See above.

Is there one member of this board that's truly anti -Ted Thompson? Don't we all want him to succeed within certain time frames? Should we TRUST that will in fact be the case?

NO !!

I participate in this forum, scratch my head trying to understand Ted Thompson and his style of managing. I'm a Packer fan 365 days a year.

I sincerely hope for, want him to succeed.

GO Packers !

[cheesner]

How is Stallworth anywhere near the type of player we'd want on the Packers next year?

He's consistantly injured and has had attitude problems with teammates, coaches, and the front office throughout his career.

He's precisely the kind of guy I hope the Packers stay away from. He's a cancer. He's not a team player. Why bring in a guy who isn't in it for the long-haul? He will do more damage while he's here auditioning for his next gig then he will do anything to help the team.

Yep, but the anti-TT folk look Redskins with envy and want to make a move merely for the sake of making of move. Very few of the FA would have made much of a difference this year, and the few premiere ones would have been a waste of money based on their positions.

The anti-TT folk,mmmm.

Who are these fans?

Ted Thompson has been OUR GM for going on three seasons. Since he arrived OUR record has been a combined 12W and 20L.

Talented footbal players just don't arrive in Green Bay and lend support for success. It's up to Ted Thompson to secure that, by always trying to make the Packers more competitive.

I agree that Ted Thompson had to get the Packer house in order. He had to get OUR CAP space in order. We see that burdened by the fact of two successive poor seasons. Yet with promise in 2006 of a better 2007.

We had alot 0f CAP space in 2006. We may agree on gains with the additions of CB Charles Woodson and DT Ryan Pickett as this past season unfolded.We are pleased that TT resigned Aaron Kampman after we almost fumbled him away, and extended Cullen Jenkins and Al Harris recently.

Not attempting to beat a dead horse here but to gan insight.


Ted Thompson elected to resign Ahman Green for only one season. He worked his tail off to recondition and help OUR running game, that wasn't as a whole very good but can we fault Ahman Green, his work ethic?

I don't believe so.

Wouldn't it have been more prudent for Ted Thompson to re-sign Ahman Green for two or three seasons? He'd be what. . .33 years old then.

Was there too much risk for Ted Thompson to make that move happen last off season?

I have always maintained that Ted Thompson isnt the known quality at GM that many here believe he is. Evidence that he's a GM in training.

I am certain that Ted Thompson is in charge and that he's OUR immediate future. I suspect that's not a constant.

It's my position that a GM has to have a plan that is based on two ideals. Proper operation that includes a sound economic policy and with success measured based on a PLAN.

The evidence of not getting that second part right is clear. Packer fan appreciation is in a downspin as OUR team remains uncompetitive, yet, ticket prices are rising.

How long has Ted Thompson got to get it all together? See above.

Is there one member of this board that's truly anti -Ted Thompson? Don't we all want him to succeed within certain time frames? Should we TRUST that will in fact be the case?

NO !!

I participate in this forum, scratch my head trying to understand Ted Thompson and his style of managing. I'm a Packer fan 365 days a year.

I sincerely hope for, want him to succeed.

GO Packers !

I think we would all be better GMs than TT with the benefit of hindsight. So he should have signed Ahman to a longer contract last year. Yup. Can't argue there. But what if Ahman did not regain his form after the injury? To me - Ahman was slowing down even before the injury. I didn't expect him to be as good as he was last year. If we had invested a lot of money in him at that point - I think that would have been a poor move on TT's part. What's more - are you sure Ahman would have signed a longer contract? If he felt he was going to come back - perhaps he would have only opted for the one year I-need-to-prove-myself-again-and-hit-a-big-payday contract.

You are right though, the bottom line on TT will be wins and loses. But you have to look at the increased talent level to know that more wins are coming in the future. Impatience by a GM can ruin a team. Build slowly through the draft is the most effective way to build a team. Ridiculing TT for every 'non-move' is ridiculous. The Packers need to invest their money carefully in players that will help the team to win.

Think about this - we have lots of cap space now - because of the prudent moves TT made last year. We will have lots of cap space next year - because TT will be prudent this year. But the money is spent every year - so don't tell me that it is a waste.