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Too all the posters, if I came off harsh I apologize. I do respect everyone's opinion even if I don't understand them. I'll will attempt to use a softer tone in the future.
There's been too many insults bandied around here lately; it's changing the mood of the board.
Guiness,
I think it may have started when I became fed up with Packnut a week back or so and I fought back. Packnut attacked me a while back and when he began to attack Patler, I jumped in with both guns blazing.
I apologize for any part I had in this, and I will back off.
To Packnut and Merlin, I apologize.
I still think that everyone should keep their egos in check regarding the belief that their opinions are the ONLY opinion that any intelligent person could arrive at, but to the extent that I've played a part in the mood change, I will back down and move on.
Vince:
You are certainly a well respected poster here.
One of the best to back yourself up and be consistent in your faith of Packer management.
I certainly have learned from you Vince. Respect you as a Packer fan with alot more than attack in you.
When it gets a wee bit testy, is whenever any member here decides to pull the bully BS. That tactic deserves whatever response a victim of such bullying may feel and demonstrate.
None the less. There comes a time when someone has to let go of it and demonstrate good manners. This is a forum and what a boreing place it would be if we all agreed on issues.
I believe we can try to do this without insult and namecalling.
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I saw improvement in Rodgers play last preseason. People forget that. What passer rating does 22 for 38 for 323 yards with 3 TDs and 1 interception equate to?
Do I need to start sharing my pills with some of you???
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CHICKS DUG THAT
TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
From Cliff Christl's last forum chat (and it says it all):
Q: mike of wayne - Cliff - Mike McCarthy was quoted the other day as saying that the Packers are counting on Robert Ferguson to compete for the No. 2 or 3 wide receiver job. To me, this is the ultimate example of holding on to a guy who can't play and/or settling for mediocrity. What gives? Do MM and TT honestly expect to score points relying on stiffs like Herron, Fergy and Franks? Thanks for all your great work and best of luck!
A: Cliff Christl - I don't get it either. I don't see what they see in Ferguson. Plus, he's always hurt. Coaches who bank on players like that usually don't last long.
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From Cliff Christl's last forum chat (and it says it all):
Q: mike of wayne - Cliff - Mike McCarthy was quoted the other day as saying that the Packers are counting on Robert Ferguson to compete for the No. 2 or 3 wide receiver job. To me, this is the ultimate example of holding on to a guy who can't play and/or settling for mediocrity. What gives? Do MM and TT honestly expect to score points relying on stiffs like Herron, Fergy and Franks? Thanks for all your great work and best of luck!
A: Cliff Christl - I don't get it either. I don't see what they see in Ferguson. Plus, he's always hurt. Coaches who bank on players like that usually don't last long.
Wow, Cliffy's last comment and I totally agree with it!
Somehow, that's a good way to end the whole thing.
From Cliff Christl's last forum chat (and it says it all):
Q: mike of wayne - Cliff - Mike McCarthy was quoted the other day as saying that the Packers are counting on Robert Ferguson to compete for the No. 2 or 3 wide receiver job. To me, this is the ultimate example of holding on to a guy who can't play and/or settling for mediocrity. What gives? Do MM and TT honestly expect to score points relying on stiffs like Herron, Fergy and Franks? Thanks for all your great work and best of luck!
A: Cliff Christl - I don't get it either. I don't see what they see in Ferguson. Plus, he's always hurt. Coaches who bank on players like that usually don't last long.
Wow, Cliffy's last comment and I totally agree with it!
Somehow, that's a good way to end the whole thing.
End the Misery
TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
Rediculous..Guess you should be coaching the team insteam of MM...
Easy Scott - he's entitled to his opinion w/o being slammed for it. Wist is our well know resident skeptic/pessimist, so it's not like this is out of character.
There's been too many insults bandied around here lately; it's changing the mood of the board.
I noticed that also.
This is great board... good tenor, good debate. There seems to be relatively few teenagers in here - I'd imagine most of our regular posters are over 25 years of age; so the maturity of the regulars keeps things in line.
I know we have a few younger guys in here as well... but, they too, tend to be very mature in their attitudes. It speaks well of them.
Where you get into trouble is when you get teenagers/early twenties kids that aren't capable of engaging in debate... we don't have many of those, thankfully.
Sadly, the "art" of debate is dying in our society... it's alive and well in here though.
I want to chime in with something that is important and often overlooked when forums reach this point where civility is questioned. DO NOT let your emotions take over. If someone has put themself into a position where they're getting some aggression then DO NOT AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME they don't deserve that treatment. Too many times people start feeling sorry for a guy who put himself in a rough spot and right away they start pointing the finger at the people who are merely hitting back.
DO NOT mistake people getting what's coming to them for other people being disrespectful. I've said over and over during the past month that some people were tying themselves to failure with their stance on certain issues. I then stated that those that did that were destined to hang from that same rope. If you put yourself out there on a stance that is lacking logic and cannot convince others of your opinion then you should expect some rough treatment. It's part of the process! It's what drives these forums. If nobody was ever called on things they said that were wrong or lacking logic then why would any of us show up? You still get to have your opinion but when you debate without merit or abilitiy to prove your stance.....it's not going to be pretty.
Regardless if it's your opinion, each of us is responsible for the things we say and the stance we take. When you, or someone else, takes a stance that is wrong, or that can't be defended with logic or facts then you will take heat for that and that is NOT a sign of disrespect. We all hold each other's feet to the fire every day on these issues. Some people just go farther out on the edge and thus fall more then others. Having the right to your opinion does not give you carte blanche to say whatever you want without reprecussion.
When Retail Guy spouts off left and right on issues but then refuses to engage in a debate on the merits of his stance...(like he did with me and others)...he better expect people to come after him. That's not poor conduct on the part of those coming at him, that's him having to deal with the results of the words he's used and the stance he's taken. He put himself in that position. I've put myself in this position right now. Opinion or not, I deserve whatever reaction to this subject and the ramifications on my credability because of this post. I know that going in. Now, if people are insulting me personally and calling me fat or saying My mother is like a squirrel because she's always got a mouth full of nuts..... that's over the line (unless we were discussing my weight or my mother being a whore).
My main point is that there are certain people that have set themselves up to be flamed based on their interaction and stance on certain issues. Most of us don't come here to argue just for the sake of arguing. When you feel like someone is coming here just to spout off, it starts to bother you. That's the problem we all face. The problem isn't making sure we roll the red carpet out to that kind of poster under the guise of civility...... It's healthy for them to take some heat for the things they say.
Life is a puzzle. Every day you get up and pick up the pieces from the day before.
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You can't keep idiots from being idiots. You can only hope to contain them.
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Idiots DO exist. I've seen them.
I really hate doing this but I have to look out for the best interest of the forum....
ALL you guys need to get your shit together and quit bickering like little school girls. Im not going to say any names. You know who you are and it's not just one person.
STOP BRINGING THE PLACE DOWN OR I WILL BE FORCED TO BRING YOU DOWN! TRUST ME YOU DONT WANT THAT AND I DONT WANT TO HAVE TO DO THAT SO PLEASE ARGUE LIKE GROWN MEN OR PREPARE TO BE TREATED LIKE CHILDREN.
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