Why I WORRY about Jones.

[The Leaper]

I did some real research tonight on Jones. I knew he had played against inferior competition, so I wanted to know HOW inferior. Here's the proof in the pudding...rank of passing defenses SJS faced in 2006:

Wash St - 108th
Stanford - 23rd...looks good, but this is a 1-11 team.
Cal Poly - not Div 1-A
San Diego St - 17th...rating deceptive again...3-9 team that gave up 22 passing TDs on the year
Utah St - 112th
Nevada - 52nd
Louisiana Tech - 116th
New Mex St - 98th
Boise St - 45th
Hawaii - 105th
Idaho - 95th
Fresno St - 86th
New Mexico - 100th

So, out of the 20 worst passing defenses (by yardage given up) in DIV 1 college football, Jones faced 5 of them in 2006.

I am SO F-ING PISSED we didn't make a move for Jarrett...and have to settle for a one year wonder who put up numbers against some PATHETIC defenses. Hopefully my fears are misguided...but I think the evidence isn't very convincing in favor of Jones being battle tested and ready for the NFL.

[Charles Woodson]

i did make a note of that when i watched the film, some of his highlights are because the DB's messed up or were out of position. But i still think hes pretty good.

i just think he may have been a reach

[MJZiggy]

How'd he do against those crappy defenses?



(not being argumentative, I just wanna know)

[Charles Woodson]

How'd he do against those crappy defenses?



(not being argumentative, I just wanna know)

SJS is in the WAC division

this is the conference


2006 WAC Standings
TEAM CONF OVERALL
Boise State 8-0 13-0
Hawaii 7-1 11-3
San Jose State 5-3 9-4
Nevada 5-3 8-5
Fresno State 4-4 4-8
Idaho 3-5 4-8
New Mexico State 2-6 4-8
Louisiana Tech 1-7 3-10
Utah State 1-7 1-11

[MJZiggy]

No, I meant individually...How'd Jones do in those games?

[Charles Woodson]

2006 Game Log Receiving Rushing Fumbles
DATE OPP RESULT REC YDS AVG LNG TD ATT YDS AVG LNG TD FUM LST
9/2 @Washington L 35-29 9 130 14.4 50 3 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0
9/9 Stanford W 35-34 7 82 11.7 33 0 2 57 28.5 42 1 0 0
9/23 Cal Poly W 17-7 9 92 10.2 43 0 1 9 9.0 9 0 0 0
9/30 San Diego State W 31-10 5 21 4.2 12 0 1 -1 -1.0 0 0 0 0
10/14 Utah State W 21-14 8 134 16.8 50 1 2 0 0.0 2 0 0 0
10/21 @Nevada L 23-7 3 43 14.3 30 1 1 4 4.0 4 0 0 0
10/28 Louisiana Tech W 44-10 3 15 5.0 11 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0
11/4 @New Mexico State W 31-21 1 8 8.0 8 0 1 -8 -8.0 0 0 0 0
11/11 Boise State L 23-20 8 88 11.0 28 2 1 5 5.0 5 0 0 0
11/18 @Hawaii L 54-17 Did Not Play or No Stats Accumulated
11/25 @Idaho W 28-13 6 98 16.3 33 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0
12/2 Fresno State W 24-14 5 76 15.2 42 1 1 7 7.0 7 0 0 0
NEW MEXICO BOWL New Mexico W 20-12 6 106 17.7 36 2 1 3 3.0 3 0 0 0

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=136035

[The Leaper]

Re: Why I WORRY about Jones.

He played good to great against most, but there were some surprising "no-shows".

Only 1 catch for 8 yards against 98th ranked New Mexico St.

Only 3 catches for 15 yards against 116th ranked Louisiana Tech.

Only 3 catches (but did score a TD) against 52nd ranked Nevada.

[esoxx]

Re: Why I WORRY about Jones.

I did some real research tonight on Jones. I knew he had played against inferior competition, so I wanted to know HOW inferior. Here's the proof in the pudding...rank of passing defenses SJS faced in 2006:

Wash St - 108th
Stanford - 23rd...looks good, but this is a 1-11 team.
Cal Poly - not Div 1-A
San Diego St - 17th...rating deceptive again...3-9 team that gave up 22 passing TDs on the year
Utah St - 112th
Nevada - 52nd
Louisiana Tech - 116th
New Mex St - 98th
Boise St - 45th
Hawaii - 105th
Idaho - 95th
Fresno St - 86th
New Mexico - 100th

So, out of the 20 worst passing defenses (by yardage given up) in DIV 1 college football, Jones faced 5 of them in 2006.

I am SO F-ING PISSED we didn't make a move for Jarrett...and have to settle for a one year wonder who put up numbers against some PATHETIC defenses. Hopefully my fears are misguided...but I think the evidence isn't very convincing in favor of Jones being battle tested and ready for the NFL.

Yeah but don't forget that when Jones goes up for the ball in a crowd "the defensive players around him just kind of fall to the ground."

I'm sure NFL DB's will do that too.

[Brohm]

I have been trying to dig up Antonio Freeman's draft bio to see how it compares to Jones as far as weaknesses...seems kind of familiar with not having it in front of me. Not a blazer but gets open and makes the catch and gets some YAC. Specifically what Freeman became known for once he got a hang of the offense.

[packinpatland]

What number pick was Antonia Freeman?

[Brohm]

3rd rounder

[RashanGary]

Hard to judge jsut how good he is. He did seem to have a good feel for the ball in the air and he never let a defender confuse him or effect his focus. I think there is something to a guy having that feel for the ball and that feel for positioning. I don't think it's taught as much as it is a natural skill. Sure, it can be refined like all football technique but I think there are guys who have it and guys who don't and you are wasting yoru time if they don't.

I watch a lot of practices and Fergy is one of the hardest workers out there. HE stays late. He takes practice very seriously but he just can't catch the ball. Other guys, like Jennings, just go out there and they naturally catch the ball. Fergy tries just as hard and has just as much experience; he's even more physically gifted but he just doesn't have it. It seems like this guy does but you have to get them in pads and see how they compare to real NFL guys. Jennings just picked right up and did what he did in college on the next level. Will this guy too? I don' know but Central Michigan didn't play the toughest schedules either so it mgiht not be a tell all.

[The Leaper]

I have been trying to dig up Antonio Freeman's draft bio to see how it compares to Jones as far as weaknesses...seems kind of familiar with not having it in front of me. Not a blazer but gets open and makes the catch and gets some YAC. Specifically what Freeman became known for once he got a hang of the offense.

True.

And, IMO, Freeman would've been a bust in the NFL if it wasn't for the fact he dropped into a perfect situation on the other end of a HOF QB in his prime.

[Joemailman]

What number pick was Antonia Freeman?

90th pick overall.

[ny10804]

Greg Jennings' Senior Year

Virginia #102
Toledo #89
Southern Illinois N/A
Temple #98
Buffalo #86
Ball State #16
Bowling Green #92
Kent State #97
Eastern Michigan #90
Central Michigan #22
TCU #48