I would consider 2007 a Failure IF

[wist43]

How can that be... I'm not a democrat???

[pack4to84]

My vote for failure is if they don't sweep there division. No one in this division scares me at all . and I mean period.

[packinpatland]

My vote for failure is if they don't sweep there division. No one in this division scares me at all . and I mean period.

Now, that's a statement!

[The Leaper]

On offense:

Failure would be not improving red zone scoring...16 for 49 last year, one of the worst in the league. If this team can't score TDs again in the red zone, then Thompson deserves a lot of criticism...because Favre is a solid red zone QB and he desperately called for more help in that regard, and TT did nothing about it.

On defense:

Failure would be not increasing the number of big game-changing plays...this defense is going to have to carry the team, and nearly every major "high impact" addition in FA and the draft the last 2 years has been on defense. That means the defense should be able to win some games on its own this year.

[woodbuck27]

I would consider this season a failure if we don't win at least 4 games in the NFCN.

and also. . .

I would consider this season a failure if we are blown out in more than 3 games. I consider a blowout a loss by 10 or more pt's.

and also. . .

I want the team to average at least 23 pt's of offense per game at seasons end.I believe we averaged about 19 pt's last season. (see next paragraph)

Ted Thompson is on record as saying that he believes in his RB's and that our TE's will bounce back. He made no real moves to cover his ass there. So he's to be held accountable for any more failure in our running game and the incorporation of our TE's in the offense.

I'm sick of the excuses we went through with our secondary last season. Part of the real problem was the fact that players like Woodson and Harris have to be in the camps and ready to go on game one Vs. the Eagles.It's time for the teams management to lay on the wood if players refuse camps.

GO PACKERS !!

[MJZiggy]

Part of the real problem was the fact that players like Woodson and Harris have to be in the camps and ready to go on game one Vs. the Eagles.It's time for the teams management to lay on the wood if players refuse camps.

I thought OTA's were supposed to be optional. Not much they can do if a player decides to train elsewhere and quite frankly, Harris and Woodson were arguably the strongest position on the team last year. (and I'm sure someone will argue... :P )

[packinpatland]

from woodbuck27:

Ted Thompson is on record as saying that he believes in his RB's and that our TE's will bounce back. He made no real moves to cover his ass there. So he's to be held accountable for any more failure in our running game and the incorporation of our TE's in the offense.


How come he gets the RB's and we get the TE's?

[Brohm]

If they go 7-9, without the obscene shut-outs they had last year (be competitive) I think it would be a successful season, given the schedule.

[woodbuck27]

Part of the real problem was the fact that players like Woodson and Harris have to be in the camps and ready to go on game one Vs. the Eagles.It's time for the teams management to lay on the wood if players refuse camps.

I thought OTA's were supposed to be optional. Not much they can do if a player decides to train elsewhere and quite frankly, Harris and Woodson were arguably the strongest position on the team last year. (and I'm sure someone will argue... :P )

Harris had a very slow start MJ. That was clearly demonstrated when Torry Holt of the Rams burnt him so badly in our game Vs. them. I thought he was not at all himself up to and including that game but came on after that.

Reason was that he wasn't prepared (not in game shape).

Woodson as well took awhile to gain some consistency.

Alot of the blame was going to our secondary coaching or system when it certainly appeared to me that the problem was on players being prepared and in the case of Marquand Manuel and Nick Collins capable.

As the season progressed things went better with Woodson ,Harris and Collins but Marquand Manuel has to step it up in TC. I don't believe he (MM) has the talent to be a starter on our team and I look for another player to step in for him.

I want our TC to be an all out fight for a position on the roster and no DAM politics. We need the very best on our roster to have any reasonable chance this season.

GO PACKERS !!

We need such player (slash) leaders in all our camps, whether they are optional or not is no excuse for the Packers that have so much to prove in 2007.

[Bretsky]

Note:

55% feel the season is a failure if GB has a worse record than 06

They were in great fiscal position going into free agency; I'm quite surprised the percentage is not higher.

[Joemailman]

Some people may have bought into the theory that due to the schedule, the Packers could be better but have a worse record. I don't buy it.

[BallHawk]

I think that, as a team, regardless of your talent level, you always aim to improve of what you did last year. If you won 8, you want to win 9 or 10. If you got the wild card, you aim to win the division. You don't aim for mediocrity.

[Bretsky]

Some people may have bought into the theory that due to the schedule, the Packers could be better but have a worse record. I don't buy it.

Maybe it's right, but to them I ALSO remind them that GB had the 5th most cap space going into this year's free agency.

So regardless of how he uses it, we should expect TT to move this team forward and use those resources to improve last year's record.

That's reasonable to hope for out of a Turtle

[Bretsky]

I think that, as a team, regardless of your talent level, you always aim to improve of what you did last year. If you won 8, you want to win 9 or 10. If you got the wild card, you aim to win the division. You don't aim for mediocrity.

AMEN

[HarveyWallbangers]

Note:

55% feel the season is a failure if GB has a worse record than 06

They were in great fiscal position going into free agency; I'm quite surprised the percentage is not higher.

For me, it's due to the fact that we were 4-12 two years ago. We improved to 8-8 last year, but I think anybody that was honest with themselves would admit they weren't really that good last year. They had a relatively cupcake schedule. Things look A LOT tougher this year. We could be 7-9 this year, and there's a good chance that I'd feel that we'd be closer to legitimately competing than I do right now. Thus, it's hard for me to quantify what I feel would be a success. I'll watch them play, and judge afterwards. I feel last year was pretty successful. We got back on track a bit after a disastrous 2005 season, and we had a good draft class.