Packers make feeler offer for now retired Keyshawn Johnson

[woodbuck27]

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=610061

Bid to land Keyshawn not enough
Retiring receiver got a feeler from team

[wist43]

Reggie's persuasive sales pitch:

"Please Keyshawn, will you come and play for us for next to nothing... pretty please!!!!"

[woodbuck27]

Reggie's persuasive sales pitch:

"Please Keyshawn, will you come and play for us for next to nothing... pretty please!!!!"

Johnson's agent, Jerome Stanley, said in a report that the Titans offered a deal worth nearly $8 million for two years

The above tells us just how much the Packers we're in the bidding.

NOT !!!!

[MJZiggy]

Who cares? He retired.

[oregonpackfan]

Reggie's persuasive sales pitch:

"Please Keyshawn, will you come and play for us for next to nothing... pretty please!!!!"

Reggie's altered sales pitch:

"Please Keyshawn, we will let you run your pass routes with a personalized, green and gold walker!"

[woodbuck27]

Who cares? He retired.

The point of fact here is that even if the Packers want a quality player they arn't really in the game.

It's obvious aound the NFL now that we are a struggling team with little to lend to an upside on offense. Until we prove otherwise really talented players willl not be on our radar.

After Favre and DD there is little on our offense to attract the attention of the really talented to Green Bay. Both will soon be history as Packers.

We don't even have a competent back-up QB on our roster, moreso a solid franchise QB after Favre. If anyone here really believes that Aaron Rodgers is the answer? I will say your mistaken.

There is nothing that will attract good players more to a good team then that teams ability to win and at least appear to be progressing towards improvement.

Ted Thompson has blown that out of the water with his PLAN.The greatest weakness in his PLAN is for him to proceed with the impression that Aaron Rodgers will be a success in the NFL as Favre's replacement.

Either he has to change very soon,admitting his ways arn't about winning and that will change; or he has to be removed as our GM.

Do we as Packer fans have to suffer through two - three more years with this man as our GM? With every excuse made for his neglect and extremely conservative approach towords enabling us more in the win column?

NO. . . WE SHOULDN'T.

[The Leaper]

It is far too early to write off Rodgers as a failure. You can probably assume he isn't going to be an elite QB...or the Packers would've showed Favre the door by now. However, there are numerous examples of QBs that took 3-6 years to develop into reliable starters. Whether or not Rodgers will be in that group won't be known until he is given a chance to prove himself on the field over a period of time.

Hasselbeck didn't exactly set the world afire his first couple years in Seattle...he's still a pretty decent QB. McNabb struggled early on. Green and Garcia weren't viewed as reliable starters early in their careers. I just don't find any logic in writing off Rodgers before he's had a chance to prove himself.

[woodbuck27]

It is far too early to write off Rodgers as a failure. You can probably assume he isn't going to be an elite QB...or the Packers would've showed Favre the door by now. However, there are numerous examples of QBs that took 3-6 years to develop into reliable starters. Whether or not Rodgers will be in that group won't be known until he is given a chance to prove himself on the field over a period of time.

Hasselbeck didn't exactly set the world afire his first couple years in Seattle...he's still a pretty decent QB. McNabb struggled early on. Green and Garcia weren't viewed as reliable starters early in their careers. I just don't find any logic in writing off Rodgers before he's had a chance to prove himself.

Aaron Rodgers has shown us nothing. . .zero. . .zilch !!!

The real scam on this fella is that he fell into TT's lap and the fact that Favre was possibly going to retire soon had Dick ALL to do with TT selecting him.

Since when does a GM select the heir apparant to a HOF QB without taking the time to properly assess him?

Did TT really believe that was a GEM of a QB falling to him with so many other teams passing? The joke will be on Packer fans.

Soon that joke has to end. We always can't use the excuse that he hasn't really had time yet to prove one way or the other what he can do.

Look at his mechanics and how he handles himself in the pocket. How well does he avoid the rush?

[wist43]

I'm sure Rodgers isn't in a hurry to get on the field... he knows the jig will be up then.

If he's lucky, he can hang around in the league as a back up for a few years.

[woodbuck27]

I'm sure Rodgers isn't in a hurry to get on the field... he knows the jig will be up then.

If he's lucky, he can hang around in the league as a back up for a few years.

That's why he's always smiling and never a sad note fr. him or complaint.

If he really believed he had it. Then he would be alot more hungry to get the ball.

If Aaron Rodgers really had it then TT would have been successful in pushing Favre out.

He's done just that to all but Favre and Driver, for the fundamentle reason that by maintaining Favre he gains time to possibly not be more exposed.

He can use Favre because he DAM well knows that Favre must protect his legacy as the GREAT Packer HOFer. TT must realize that when push comes to shove that Favre will suck it all up.

The question then really becomes.

How much more will Favre suck up? To avoid that we have to do as TT says he wants.

WIN NOW !!

[run pMc]

I think the fact that he said GB was very interested says something about TT supposedly "not being active in FA". The story doesn't say GB ever made an offer, and I doubt they would without bringing him in first. We know Keyshawn walked away from a choice of playing with Favre, V.Young, or Brady, not to mention at least $8 million, so that tells me his heart was not in the game anymore. GB doesn't need players like that taking up roster spots.

As far as Rodgers, I haven't seen him do much yet, but I haven't seen him have many opportunities, either. IMHO, the jury is still out on him, but to expect the second coming of Favre is unrealistic. I'd be OK if he was competent/mistake-free, and buy TT enough time to find a better QB.

[PackerBlues]

Look at his mechanics and how he handles himself in the pocket. How well does he avoid the rush?

Lets look at that a little closer, because I think its Favre's ability to throw the ball while running for his life, that makes our current offensive line look better than it is. Part of what makes Favre as great as he is, is his ability to make so many accurate passes while on the move, and while he is off-balance. Rogers does not have that, not at all.
I would have to argue though that Thompson is working on turning the Packers into a team built around a dominant defense. As a good friend of mine is fond of saying, "Even a blind squirrell will find an acorn every once in a while." Thompson figures if Rogers plays the part of "Trent Dilfer", he is bound to score a few points here and there, while the Defense controls the game. Again though, that is in the future, Ted is going to need at least one or two more off seasons to ignore offense and grab more defensive talent.

[woodbuck27]

I think the fact that he said GB was very interested says something about TT supposedly "not being active in FA". The story doesn't say GB ever made an offer, and I doubt they would without bringing him in first. We know Keyshawn walked away from a choice of playing with Favre, V.Young, or Brady, not to mention at least $8 million, so that tells me his heart was not in the game anymore. GB doesn't need players like that taking up roster spots.

As far as Rodgers, I haven't seen him do much yet, but I haven't seen him have many opportunities, either. IMHO, the jury is still out on him, but to expect the second coming of Favre is unrealistic. I'd be OK if he was competent/mistake-free, and buy TT enough time to find a better QB.

Yes. It appears that given that offer fr. the Titans that KJ decided it was time to change direction.

I agree (mostly) with your take on Aaron Rodgers. Where we may differ is that I've seen little that gives me hope in Aaron Rodgers. He appears lost when he enters the game. He seems to lack that IT quality.

[The Leaper]

Lets look at that a little closer, because I think its Favre's ability to throw the ball while running for his life, that makes our current offensive line look better than it is.

Actually, he doesn't even bother running for his life often anymore. Favre merely gets rid of the ball very quickly...which is due to his experience. I certainly agree that the OL looked better quite often last year simply due to Favre.

The main reason his completion percentage fell so drastically last year was due to the fact that Favre threw numerous passes to the first receiver he looked at due to the OL allowing too much pressure...even if they were well covered. I think if someone took time to go back and research the film, I'll bet Favre's completion percentage when he had time to progress through each pattern on a play was probably much closer to his career average.

[The Leaper]

I agree (mostly) with your take on Aaron Rodgers. Where we may differ is that I've seen little that gives me hope in Aaron Rodgers. He appears lost when he enters the game. He seems to lack that IT quality.

Favre often seemed lost in his first 2 years as a Packer. He got by merely on his ridiculous talent most of the time...which Rodgers clearly doesn't have, along with 99% of other QBs.