Say Hello To Pacman, Mr. Vick

[Tarlam!]

Sack Vick.

[RashanGary]

Do you know how hard it is to prove something? VERY, VERY hard. AS much as it's not 100% proven, it is 100% obvious and the Blancs should cut his ass and the NFL should blacklist him. They won't and I hope fans with any shred of humanity hit the blancs where it hurts; in their greedy, fat pocket book.

[the_idle_threat]

Next to Vick, the horsef**kers look like decent guys.

[Rastak]

Next to Vick, the horsef**kers look like decent guys.

I shouldn't laugh, it's true.

[MJZiggy]

Next to Vick, the horsef**kers look like decent guys.

I shouldn't laugh, it's true.

I know, but you have to sorta...

[cpk1994]

How 'bout the CFL...

Having Ricky Williams and Vick on the same team would be great. Unfortunately, there is yet to be a team named the Outlaws.

If only the XFL was still in business.

[FritzDontBlitz]

interesting thing about all this is that the house was raided as part of DRUG investigation, i'm wondering what happened to that part of the story???

[packinpatland]

No matter how this unfolds, it doesn't appear to have a happy ending, for anyone involved.
This sort of thing has a way of tarnishing all pro sports.

[the_idle_threat]

interesting thing about all this is that the house was raided as part of DRUG investigation, i'm wondering what happened to that part of the story???

When the doors were being kicked down they had the dogs snort up all the evidence?

[GrnBay007]

Innocent until proven guilty.

That rule holds true in a court of law. The court of public opinion is a different matter.

Even if Vick is never charged in this it will not mean he was not involved. Dog fighting is an underground operation and I would guess having a high profile athlete involved it would be even further underground...IF he was involved. Since all this started I had the opportunity to talk to a recently retired cop and asked him about dog fighting and whether they ever had cases of it here (smaller city). He said surprisingly yes. He said it ran in streaks and they would receive information from veterinarians but most often it would lead to a dead end. He did say he saw a room once where a dog fight was held and it was completely disgusting.

[Kiwon]

Next to Vick, the horsef**kers look like decent guys.

I'm-in-the-mood-for-a-jihad agrees. He says, "Mammal to Mammal love was invented in Iran. It was our first national sport. Ah, Black Beauty…. Now, there was a horse no man could tame."

[prsnfoto]

The story has received national attention and no matter how much the locals want it to go away, do you think the news agencies hungry for a story, or PETA hungry for a high profile conviction to make a point will let it die so easily? I know that Goodell has his eye on the investigation as well, so it will be interesting to see how this one plays out.

In a perfect world, if he's guilty he would be punished. But we don't live in a perfect world.

The public's moral outrage is fleeting. People will forget about it and if he has a great season there will be significant pressure not to prosecute him. Celebrities are held to a different standard in our society.

Look at Vick's arrogance now - "the world supports Michael Vick" (paraphrasing). He's never been held accountable for anything and the Black community generally has a non-judgmental, anti-snitching undercurrent running through it. Add to this that Vick's a star and it's more likely that the informant will suddenly disappear, be discredited or get forgetful before Vick is convicted of a serious crime.

On one side: The Black community doesn't want him convicted. The general football fan doesn't want him convicted. The local prosecutors probably don't want to convict him. The NFL doesn't want to lose a star or antagonize their Black fan base.

On the other side: The Law and PETA. PETA and its supporters want to make an example out of him but they are generally regarded as left-wing extremists. Their own negative publicity cancels them out. This case will come down to whether or not public officials will investigate fairly and uphold the Law.

Vick might cop a plea to a misdemeanor or something like that but I can't imagine that he'll be convicted of anything serious. He'll go on being arrogant and people will continue to buy tickets to see him play. That's my prediction of what will happen.

I agree completely with you except the part of the NFL they will nail him to the wall cause if they don't every Pacman Jones and tank Williams out there will sue their pants of for not practicing what they preach. I also think the new coach and and Mr. Blank may have had enough there may be a morals clause in his contract that allows them to save the 20 million a year and avoid PETA and twenty other orginized groups picketing the Falcons for the next five years. You are right about the rich, rednecks and blacks though they could give a shit, at least most of them.

[MadtownPacker]

There really isn't any proof yet. I will withhold judgement until all the facts are established.

When has that ever stopped yo before?

He never lived at the mansion according to sources.

Your sources? Hahahaha, let me guess, some guy who buys chainlink fence at where you work?

Even though you all seem to think he is a punk, what has he done in the past to make you believe this? Aside from the Jewelry containing water bottle(which some douche down in the PO wanted to make into a big story by staying he smelled mj), he has stayed out of trouble for the most part.

Well lets see, "Ron Mexico"? You know, the guy that lied about who he was and gave some broad a lifetime STD? Yeah, Im sure he is trustable.

Innocent until proven guilty. No one knows the true facts but Vick. My guess is you'll see several more of these big media leaks and interviews with anonymous sources(who in there right mind is going to admit to comitting a felony just to rat someone else out? Sounds fishy to me).

You obviously dont know anything about how criminals and cops work. For all you know the guy who is snitching on vick has some other cases pending and will work out a deal for giving up vick. Then vick will also be given a chance to work out a deal for someone else's head tp save his own ass. It will keep going until someone stays quiet . That guy will be the one who gets the heavy load of charges. That is the way it works in the REAL world Partial. Not the one you searched on Google.

BTW - I think you dont even believe what you are saying and likely just enjoy being on the other end of the "mob" mentality like you have in the past.

[Rastak]

There really isn't any proof yet. I will withhold judgement until all the facts are established.

When has that ever stopped yo before?

He never lived at the mansion according to sources.

Your sources? Hahahaha, let me guess, some guy who buys chainlink fence at where you work?

Even though you all seem to think he is a punk, what has he done in the past to make you believe this? Aside from the Jewelry containing water bottle(which some douche down in the PO wanted to make into a big story by staying he smelled mj), he has stayed out of trouble for the most part.

Well lets see, "Ron Mexico"? You know, the guy that lied about who he was and gave some broad a lifetime STD? Yeah, Im sure he is trustable.

Innocent until proven guilty. No one knows the true facts but Vick. My guess is you'll see several more of these big media leaks and interviews with anonymous sources(who in there right mind is going to admit to comitting a felony just to rat someone else out? Sounds fishy to me).

You obviously dont know anything about how criminals and cops work. For all you know the guy who is snitching on vick has some other cases pending and will work out a deal for giving up vick. Then vick will also be given a chance to work out a deal for someone else's head tp save his own ass. It will keep going until someone stays quiet . That guy will be the one who gets the heavy load of charges. That is the way it works in the REAL world Partial. Not the one you searched on Google.

BTW - I think you dont even believe what you are saying and likely just enjoy being on the other end of the "mob" mentality like you have in the past.

Good points Mad. What kind of disturbs me is the rumblings of there being a dog fighting sub culture in the NFL....now I agree THAT is definately rumor and shouldn't be treated with the same attention Michael "asshole" Vick is getting. But if true....wow.....WTF? I thought it was all humans playing in the NFL.

[RashanGary]

I agree Mad. Good points with the snitching to get out and also with Partial just trying to be anti-mob mentality.

I'm not a big mob mentality guy because I believe people should be able to do whatever they damn well please as long as it doesn't hurt others. Drugs, drinking, prostetution, gambling, whatever...I could care less and it bothers me to see people gang up on people who don't hurt others. The problem with Dick is that he does hurt others and it's disgusting what he's been doing to animals as of late. I'm more than happy to jump in with this mob and the evidence is overwhelming even if he's not convicted of a damn thing.