GLIMPSE TO FUTURE--"""MANNING SOON TO SHRED A

[The Leaper]

The GM has did a wonderful job focusing on surrounding his superstar with weapons on the offensive side and quality blockers.

This is true. However, the DEFENSIVE side of the ball is what has been built up more recently...and with the monster deal that Freeney just got, you can expect more resources to move over to that side of the ball now.

That is why I think we may see Manning's OL take a downward trend in the next 3-5 years. Once a team wins a Super Bowl, it is very difficult to retain all of your key pieces...especially a team like Indy that now has a ton of cash wrapped up in just 3 players (Manning, Harrison, Freeney). Manning's lack of mobility will become a greater and greater concern as he heads toward his mid-30s.

[Merlin]

Records are kept so that people can break them..Manning breaking Favre's passing records does not diminish anything Favre has accomplished in his career..Not even a little bit..

Although I completely agree with you as do I am sure most of the Packer fans out there, Favre's accomplishments will wither the second Manning breaks his records with the rest of the fans. There is no doubt in my mind that the way Favre plays football is dying fast in the NFL. It's all about the money, the hype and the name. One great season and a player thinks he deserves it all. Any all-pro team (and Pro-Bowl) team should be based on commitment to the game and not the dollar signs.

[Jimx29]

Re: GLIMPSE TO FUTURE--"""MANNING SOON TO SHR

Consider this

The current records for passing yards are 61,361
The current record for TDs is 420.
Both are held by Dan Marino. Both should be broken by Favre this season
Brett Favre owns the completions record, with 5,021.

Manning has played 9 seasons thus far
PFT's projection of Mannings stats if he plays 8 more seasons is staggering.

If Manning plays a total of 17 seasons, he is projected to finish with about:

70,995 passing yards
519 touchdowns passes
5,900 completions

Anybody else thing Manning will break them all ???

Favre should feel like Barry Bonds with AROD; I think all of football knows Manning will be there pretty soon.

What were Brett's #s after 9 years? Gotta compare apples to potatos

[woodbuck27]

I know this is incredibly rude BUT... it's time for Manning to break a leg.

Actually isn't Favre due one? His streak is pretty amazing......

Jeeeese !! Don't do that. . .please !!

Favre has enough going against him this season. . . for bad omens.

[woodbuck27]

Re: GLIMPSE TO FUTURE--"""MANNING SOON TO SHR

Consider this

The current records for passing yards are 61,361
The current record for TDs is 420.
Both are held by Dan Marino. Both should be broken by Favre this season
Brett Favre owns the completions record, with 5,021.

Manning has played 9 seasons thus far
PFT's projection of Mannings stats if he plays 8 more seasons is staggering.

If Manning plays a total of 17 seasons, he is projected to finish with about:

70,995 passing yards
519 touchdowns passes
5,900 completions

Anybody else thing Manning will break them all ???

Favre should feel like Barry Bonds with AROD; I think all of football knows Manning will be there pretty soon.

Well then. Brett will simply have to play out his contract.

Let's say that he plays this and next season. Then he'll pass Marino,for sure, early next season for total yards and finish 2008 at about 65,500 total.

If. . .TT's team. . . finally catchs up with Favre and extends his career, with us through 2010. Another 6000 yards will be added to that total, to become 71,500 total yards for his career.

Brett Favre and records?

Realistically, the record that is most intriguing is his total games consecutive start streak. If he continues and into 2009.

It's his . All TIME - all position,

A record of all records? Considering he's a starting QB in the NFL.

Utterly amazing !!

That streak is the one he's most proud of. If he decides to extend that and good fortune bears with him. All things will fit to take his personal records to loftier heights. Is that moot?

Favre has said over and over. That the streak and winning and possibly another legitimate shot at a Super Bowl are his incentives to continue playing the game he loves.

What else is he going to do? He still can prove he's a top ten QB with the support he needs, but how long before frustration takes him to reality?

Maybe his competitive side and love of the game. His loyality to his fans will get him beyond that?

The other thing I look at is the fact that Favre is an NFC QB. Is the NFC as pass happy as the AFC?

The last thing is this.Brett Favre had set records in college and he said that most of or all of those were broken. That's what records are for. Given that. Who amongst Packer fans could ever not appreciate and salivate for any other like him.

The sad reality is. We will not likely enjoy that in our lifetimes.

Brett Favre simply put is very special.

P. Manning will never be anything on a football field overall as Favre is to me and many more Packer fans.

GO PACKERS !!

[packers11]

Favre = First 9 Years in GB...

Yards : 34,706
TDS : 255
Completions : 2,997

Mannings : 9 years in NFL

Yards : 37,586
TDS : 275
Completions : 3,131

Difference :

2,880 Yards
20 TD's
134 completions

THERE IS THE STATS FOKES... In my opinion I don't think Manning will get it, FAVRE is playing ANOTHER year which will whipe off the "difference" and more... Also Manning would have to go on this same elite pace to pass Favre...

I don't think Manning will play as long as Favre and once Harrison retires in a few years, Along with some of his O-line , he will have a tough time putting up the numbers...

[woodbuck27]

Favre = First 9 Years in GB...

Yards : 34,706
TDS : 255
Completions : 2,997

Mannings : 9 years in NFL

Yards : 37,586
TDS : 275
Completions : 3,131

Difference :

2,880 Yards
20 TD's
134 completions

THERE IS THE STATS FOKES... In my opinion I don't think Manning will get it, FAVRE is playing ANOTHER year which will whipe off the "difference" and more... Also Manning would have to go on this same elite pace to pass Favre...

I don't think Manning will play as long as Favre and once Harrison retires in a few years, Along with some of his O-line , he will have a tough time putting up the numbers...

So it would appear fr. your revelation of a stat comparison. That P.Manning is about 12 games ahead of the pace that Favre set through 9 seasons.

[packers11]

So it would appear fr. your revelation of a stat comparison. That P.Manning is about 12 games ahead of the pace that Favre set through 9 seasons.

Unless he plays as long as Favre without getting injuried I just don't see him passing most of Favre's soon to be records...

[Bretsky]

Favre = First 9 Years in GB...

Yards : 34,706
TDS : 255
Completions : 2,997

Mannings : 9 years in NFL

Yards : 37,586
TDS : 275
Completions : 3,131

Difference :

2,880 Yards
20 TD's
134 completions

THERE IS THE STATS FOKES... In my opinion I don't think Manning will get it, FAVRE is playing ANOTHER year which will whipe off the "difference" and more... Also Manning would have to go on this same elite pace to pass Favre...

I don't think Manning will play as long as Favre and once Harrison retires in a few years, Along with some of his O-line , he will have a tough time putting up the numbers...

Great info; thanks for posting. Why didn't that dang Cyberski just go find this for us instead of asking for the information


Cheers,
B

[packers11]

Great info; thanks for posting.

No problem ... I was wondering what the STATS were for the longest time, but I was always to lazy to look it up... I'm kind of glad I looked it up because I thought there was a bigger difference considering Manning has every weapon possible...

[4and12to12and4]

Well, we are all obvoiusly just speculating and making educated guesses on whether or not Manning has a chance to break the records that Brett should soon hold baring (god forbid) an early injury.

IMO, I think it will be very difficult for Peyton to catch Brett. Everything will have to go perfectly for him for another 8 to 9 seasons, and the greatness of Brett is his unbelievable ability to still have such a strong arm and physical presence about him at the ripe old age of 38. It is very doubtful that Manning will be able to have this same durability. He is only halfway there and is already 31. I expect him to start breaking down and losing most of his game in three years, because that is what happens to almost all players. The fact that Brett has gotten this much success this long is what makes him, in my eyes, the greatest QB in the history of the game. I don't think Manning will be able to sustain the way Brett has. It is almost superhuman the way Brett has held onto his skillset for all these years, without losing much in the process. The fact that he can rifle a 65 mph fastball at his age is unbelievable, and his uncanny ability to have eyes in the back of his head, and when tackled, be able to take the hit with minimal contact or damage. Except the first game against the Bears, when I thought he wasn't going to get up from some of those sick blows that he took. Brett is by far the TOUGHEST football player to ever put on a professional jersey, bar none. He is amazing, and Manning will have a difficult time matching his consistency for the second half of his career. I doubt he will pass him. BTW, if he doesn't, Brett could end up holding these records in a Babe Ruth or Hank Aaron sort of way. I don't see any other QB in the game today that could even come close to passing him. My belief is that Brett will have these records for decades, and go down in history as possibly the greatest of all time. If he happens to go to another Superbowl, it won't even be arguable.

Here's to Brett for three more years!!!!!!!!

Hell, he may be in the game longer than Aaron Rodgers!! Wouldn't that be cool?

[Bretsky]

Well, we are all obvoiusly just speculating and making educated guesses on whether or not Manning has a chance to break the records that Brett should soon hold baring (god forbid) an early injury.

IMO, I think it will be very difficult for Peyton to catch Brett. Everything will have to go perfectly for him for another 8 to 9 seasons, and the greatness of Brett is his unbelievable ability to still have such a strong arm and physical presence about him at the ripe old age of 38. It is very doubtful that Manning will be able to have this same durability. He is only halfway there and is already 31. I expect him to start breaking down and losing most of his game in three years, because that is what happens to almost all players. The fact that Brett has gotten this much success this long is what makes him, in my eyes, the greatest QB in the history of the game. I don't think Manning will be able to sustain the way Brett has. It is almost superhuman the way Brett has held onto his skillset for all these years, without losing much in the process. The fact that he can rifle a 65 mph fastball at his age is unbelievable, and his uncanny ability to have eyes in the back of his head, and when tackled, be able to take the hit with minimal contact or damage. Except the first game against the Bears, when I thought he wasn't going to get up from some of those sick blows that he took. Brett is by far the TOUGHEST football player to ever put on a professional jersey, bar none. He is amazing, and Manning will have a difficult time matching his consistency for the second half of his career. I doubt he will pass him. BTW, if he doesn't, Brett could end up holding these records in a Babe Ruth or Hank Aaron sort of way. I don't see any other QB in the game today that could even come close to passing him. My belief is that Brett will have these records for decades, and go down in history as possibly the greatest of all time. If he happens to go to another Superbowl, it won't even be arguable.

Here's to Brett for three more years!!!!!!!!

Hell, he may be in the game longer than Aaron Rodgers!! Wouldn't that be cool?

Three more years ?

Amen; love that idea.

[Iron Mike]

Re: GLIMPSE TO FUTURE--"""MANNING SOON TO SHR

Gotta compare apples to potatos

Let's compare apples to apples:

Take #4 and put him on some of the offensive juggernaut teams that Manning has had. Where would BF's stats be then??

Take Laser Rocket Arm and put him on our NFL-E team of a few years ago. Where would Manning's stats be then?

I don't think we need Patler to figure this one out.

[Jimx29]

Favre = First 9 Years in GB...

Yards : 34,706
TDS : 255
Completions : 2,997

Mannings : 9 years in NFL

Yards : 37,586
TDS : 275
Completions : 3,131

Difference :

2,880 Yards
20 TD's
134 completions

THERE IS THE STATS FOKES... In my opinion I don't think Manning will get it, FAVRE is playing ANOTHER year which will whipe off the "difference" and more... Also Manning would have to go on this same elite pace to pass Favre...

I don't think Manning will play as long as Favre and once Harrison retires in a few years, Along with some of his O-line , he will have a tough time putting up the numbers...

Great info; thanks for posting. Why didn't that dang Cyberski just go find this for us instead of asking for the information


Cheers,
B

Da bum

[Merlin]

Mannings biggest attribute imo is above the shoulders, Brett imo does have more raw talent but Manning has much more above the shoulders and that usually gets you farther in the end. Simply put, all records are meant to be broken. Brett has done a wonderful job getting to where he is but in the end, Manning will own the records imo but he could get hurt next year and retire soon after.

I disagree with that. Manning blames everyone else when things go wrong. He doesn't look at how his decisions may have effected the outcome. Many other QB's (Including Favre) look to their own mistakes first and try to correct those instead of publicly throwing their team under a bus. Manning almost lost the Colts the super bowl because of his poor decision making and his "me first" attitude.

Face it, Manning is all about Manning. He is a choke artist that takes no responsibility for his poor decision making. You are parroting the media who can't see the forest between the trees with this guy. The same media that handed him the SB MVP when it clear the Colts won despite him. The passing game didn't open up the running game and the running game didn't open up the passing game. It was a ground game all the way for the Colts that gave them the victory. Manning threw more checkdowns in one game then he threw the whole season. He got pressured early and turned into a scared little girl by dumping the ball off EARLY. He was exposed in the Super Bowl and you are smart enough to see that, yet you support that he has a brain for the game? I don't get it.