Ahman!

[Lurker64]

Re: UPDATE

I believe he lost 6 yards on his first run. I was watching him for a couple series and he was breaking tackles and turning nothing into 3-4 yards. The guy is still a good runner and we will miss him alot....

Yup, against Dallas, AG racked 8 yards for 65 yds & Gado got 4 for 32 yds, both totaling above the total rushing yards for the Pack against the Jags. That speaks for itself.

So you want Gado back

Maybe we're supposed to conclude that the Dallas rush defense just isn't very good?

[Joemailman]

We should've resigned, allowing him to become the all-time rusher. He deserved it, and we screwed him. He IS much better than any back we have, and has at least two to three years left barring injury. We had and still have the money, so give me a reason to sit on it and let the guy go? Because he's not worth it? If you had 50,000 dollars to buy a car, and the only car you could buy was 42,000, but you thought it was only worth 31,000, would you take the money to you're grave with you and never spend it and ride a bike to work every day? Hmmm.

Great analogy number guy. The best descriptions of the situation I've seen.

IMHO the analogy only works if you assume that Noah Herron will be our starter. Jackson and Morency may not be the Cadillac that Ahman was, but they can get us where we need to go, even if we're not traveling in style.

[Merlin]

NO SURPRISED AT ALL HERE

WE WILL GREATLY MISS AHMAN

If I remember correctly, most everyone had hoped that we could find a way to keep Ahman. Then came the offer Houston put on the table for him and many decided he wasn't worth it. Whether you agree or not that he was worth the money, can you honestly say that you are happier with our RB situation vs having a Pro Bowl back with experience, power and speed?

Every one of us has something different on what we liked or didn't like about the off-season, draft, etc.... I guess it's safe to assume that letting Green go was the biggest thorn in my side. It's not even just that...it's that nobody else was brought in. I know, I know ....."we're happy with what we have and we clearly feel there isn't anyone else better out there"

I wish Ahman nothing but the best this year

I agree. We shouldn't have paid him what Houston did but we should have made a decent offer to the guy. 3T probably low balled him, I don't really know I never heard anything about an offer to Green. He got a great contract. I reminds me of the Rivera signing a few years back. He got a big contract as well. I wish Green all the best and hope we never have the pleasure of facing him. That would be tough to watch. 3T blew the Moss trade and IMO blew the Green signing as well.

With 13 M under the cap, it sure will be nice to have all that cash come super bowl time won't it? 3T can then buy himself some box seats to watch two teams not the Packers play.

[4and12to12and4]

For those of you who know more about the financial structure of the NFL, at this stage of preseason, what could we possibly do with the 13 million that we have sitting there? Is there something that TT knows that I don't? Or is it pretty much just dead money now. Because it doesn't carry over to next year does it?

[Bretsky]

For those of you who know more about the financial structure of the NFL, at this stage of preseason, what could we possibly do with the 13 million that we have sitting there? Is there something that TT knows that I don't? Or is it pretty much just dead money now. Because it doesn't carry over to next year does it?

There are still ways to use it; for one we could rewrite Corey Williams contract and front load about 8 Million of it to all hit this year. We had way the hell too much money left last year so TT structured Woodsen's contract like that. He could do that with other players as well, although I think Williams is the only key player who is unrestricted next year.

He also needs a little extra in case he needs to sign somebody due to injuries.

There are ways for TT to use up the money seeing he neglected free agency for the most part.

[4and12to12and4]

So, he could still use this money during the season to grab a third QB even after the season begins? Or does he have to do it before reg. season starts?

[Bretsky]

So, he could still use this money during the season to grab a third QB even after the season begins? Or does he have to do it before reg. season starts?

No, he could do it after the season starts as well. He'll use the cap money somehow, and I'd almost guarantee that it will be favorable way that will allow us the cap flexibility to play in free agency in the upcoming years if we have a GM that chooses to.

[Partial]

Once Fred Taylor signed for the money that he received, it was apparent to me that the chances of losing Ahman Green with TT as the GM were very real.

That really was the current market deal TT should have been working off of if he wanted to keep Green.

As it turns out, to even my surprise, Green got a better deal than Fred Taylor.

That is why it was so necessary to CLOSE a deal before free agency.

Kinda funny because Green can't hold Taylors jock.

I am so damn sick of this conversation. Who cares? No one knows what happened behind closed doors.

Maybe the Packers did offer him a contract and he didn't accept because he wanted to get more?!? Maybe he didn't?!?! We'll never know and its not worth debating because their is no evidence either way and whats done is done.

So we have a weakness at running back this year. It's not like the position was strong with Green there. Calling Green a pro bowler is assisnine because he hasn't had a good year since 2003. He had one big run all last year. He might have won us one more game which would put us further away from a young playmaker like Slaton, McFadden or Rice next year.

Green is gone. Every team in the league has a weak position or two. Everybody should get the hell over it and see what happens come the season. We have had this discussion at least 35 times on these boards. I thought once was enough personally.

[Partial]

This is a comment from Mr. Obvious, but you really can't judge the Ahman Green decision this year. He signed a 5 year contract (if memory serves), so that means Houston has to get good value out of him for 2 or 3 years.

Right now, losing Ahman looks bad, real bad. I think the VERY soonest we could evaluate is November, December when we see how Jackson and Green have developed and/or held up.

Not true. If letting Ahman Green walk nets us Darren McFadden, I would tell him don't let the door hit ya where the lord split you in a heartbeat. Likewise if I could do it for Chad Clifton for Jake Long I would in a second.

[GrnBay007]

No one knows what happened behind closed doors.

That applies to about 70% of the conversation topics in here, but of course it's still fun to talk about it.

[Partial]

Re: UPDATE

I believe he lost 6 yards on his first run. I was watching him for a couple series and he was breaking tackles and turning nothing into 3-4 yards. The guy is still a good runner and we will miss him alot....

Yup, against Dallas, AG racked 8 yards for 65 yds & Gado got 4 for 32 yds, both totaling above the total rushing yards for the Pack against the Jags. That speaks for itself.

No, it speaks for preseason.

[Partial]

No one knows what happened behind closed doors.

That applies to about 70% of the conversation topics in here, but of course it's still fun to talk about it.

It was fun to talk about once. Maybe twice. Hell, even 5 times. But this is getting ridiculous. Every single thread here seems to come back to a TT discussion on Ahman Green, the TEs, and getting Brett enough help.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Ahman averaged 2.3 yards/carry last preseason with us. Since Jackson is averaging 3.3 yards/carry, does that mean we are ahead of last year's pace?

[Bretsky]

No one knows what happened behind closed doors.

That applies to about 70% of the conversation topics in here, but of course it's still fun to talk about it.

It was fun to talk about once. Maybe twice. Hell, even 5 times. But this is getting ridiculous. Every single thread here seems to come back to a TT discussion on Ahman Green, the TEs, and getting Brett enough help.

Look at it on the bright side; at least every thread is not about TT's views on free agency anymore.

[Partial]

No one knows what happened behind closed doors.

That applies to about 70% of the conversation topics in here, but of course it's still fun to talk about it.

It was fun to talk about once. Maybe twice. Hell, even 5 times. But this is getting ridiculous. Every single thread here seems to come back to a TT discussion on Ahman Green, the TEs, and getting Brett enough help.

Look at it on the bright side; at least every thread is not about TT's views on free agency anymore.

How is this not?!?!?!? At least half the posts are.