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  • #31
    I thought something was amiss. I wasn't aware that the center apparently plays such a crucial role in those situations. Maybe he was slow in getting the line calls made.

    Notebook: Spitz To Step In For Injured Wells
    by Mike Spofford, Packers.com

    The versatility of the Green Bay Packers' young offensive linemen is proving to be valuable.

    On Sunday night against Chicago, Jason Spitz took over for Scott Wells at center late in the third quarter after Wells was poked in the eye on a third-down running play. On Monday, Head Coach Mike McCarthy announced that Wells has a fractured orbital bone and will in all likelihood miss Sunday's game against Washington, forcing Spitz into his first start at center.

    But the second-year pro, whose 14 NFL starts to this point have all come at guard, is up to the task. The four offensive series he played at center on Sunday constitute by far his most extensive experience at the position, but with Wells nursing a mild hamstring strain the past couple of weeks, Spitz has taken a significant share of the practice snaps at center and feels ready.

    "I've got enough reps during the preseason and during the regular week to work on my snaps, so that's not an issue," said Spitz, a third-round draft choice in 2006 out of Louisville.

    While the offense sputtered in the second half against the Bears, McCarthy said it was by no means because of the change at center. One area where the change may have affected the offense was in the 2-minute drill down the stretch, when it seemed to take longer than normal to snap the ball in the shotgun as precious seconds ticked away with the Packers needing a touchdown to tie the game.

    "Our mechanics as far as the time for the snaps was not where it needed to be," McCarthy said. "The communication as far as the set-up, we actually did take a lot more time than you would have liked. I'd like to think we could have had another opportunity or two. We were not as crisp as we've been there."

    Spitz said he feels the timing will get better with more practice in the hurry-up mode.

    "I guess you can put that on me, maybe not having the rhythm down in the 2-minute drill," he said. "We'll need to speed that up a little bit."

    Wells' injury is not considered too serious. McCarthy said he would probably be able to play after the bye week, so he may miss just the one game.

    McCarthy has said often that Wells has been the most consistent of the team's offensive linemen to this point, and it will be paramount to avoid any significant dropoff in his absence.

    "Jason Spitz I thought did a good job with the declaration and the calls," McCarthy said of his play Sunday night. "But I'm not naïve to the fact that the timing is probably not exactly the same and so forth."
    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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    • #32
      Originally posted by LEWCWA
      Like I said the Bill did the same thing tonight and didn't lose the timeout! Why the difference?
      Ya, I had to scratch my hat at that too.

      Bills were specifically challenging whether the player was down by contact. Obviously that effects the spot too, but it was a different type of challenge.

      In the packer case, there was no question as to whether he was down, just the spot was in question.

      It's a frustrating rule. But on the other hand, I see the point of the rule. EVERY spot is wrong, be it by 1 micron, 1 inch, 1 foot, or 1 yard. How can they make a cutoff?

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      • #33
        I guess if you challenge the spot and they do move it your challenge should be good and you shouldn't lose a TO. Challenges are limited so you don't have to worry about challenges on every play. That was a close call McCarthy was right and one more inch its not a first down. Getting it right shouldn't cost a TO. Bad rule IMO!

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        • #34
          Originally posted by LEWCWA
          I guess if you challenge the spot and they do move it your challenge should be good and you shouldn't lose a TO.
          ya, well this does seem fair. But how MUCH do they have to move it? Does 1 inch count? Is 5 inches adequate, or really does it require 6 inches to do the job? Is 10 too much? Never mind, my mind was wandering.

          It puts refs in impossible position, even if it does seem more fair.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
            Does 1 inch count? Is 5 inches adequate, or really does it require 6 inches to do the job? Is 10 too much?
            Would any of the Packer ladies here care to comment on this?
            All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig
              Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
              Does 1 inch count? Is 5 inches adequate, or really does it require 6 inches to do the job? Is 10 too much?
              Would any of the Packer ladies here care to comment on this?
              "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                I didn't see our screen game work very well the longer the game went.
                easy to set it up in this situation, linebackers are way back. Just a bit better than slant because you got some blockers.


                Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                Point number two, Favre throws a pick in coverage and then everyone is bitching about Favre taking chances and costing this team a victory, he took what was available, bottom line.
                Better to go down swinging. bitching be damned.

                bottom line: time ran out by taking what was available.
                Lets just be happy nobody ever gave you the opportunity to coach football at any level.

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                • #38
                  You wouldn't say that to my face cause you know you'd be on the ground in a pool of blood. Maybe that would be ok, you'd have plenty of time to watch your stupid hunting tv shows from a hospital bed, pussy.

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                  • #39


                    Internet courage?

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                    • #40
                      this game wasn't lost in the last two minutes. it wasn't field position given up by the kicking game. it wasn't the turnovers. it was lost when MM decided he would punish the offense (for the turnovers) by putting one weapon on the bench and castrating another by calling one running play after another. he put the game in the hands of the defense. the defense did all it could but one 3-and-out after another, by our offense, wore them down and made griese look like a legitimate starter. MM decided he'd make a point. we'd still be in first if we lost so no big deal. jones would take his medicine sitting on the bench and brett would be reminded that MM's in charge. one lame-ass run after another, an underneith route or two, and an occasional short pass on 3rd and long would be the order for the second half. not until he got behind would he give in but it was too late. points were made, messages sent...but at the expense of a win. i hope this game doesn't make a huge difference in the end when play-off seedings are being decided. i hope MM learned a lesson. this team didn't get to 4-0 by running the power sweep.

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                      • #41
                        Jones isn't so much better than Martin that it changed the offense.

                        The offense lost their confidence. And i think that is partly on MM, sure.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by gbgary
                          this game wasn't lost in the last two minutes. it wasn't field position given up by the kicking game. it wasn't the turnovers. it was lost when MM decided he would punish the offense (for the turnovers) by putting one weapon on the bench and castrating another by calling one running play after another. he put the game in the hands of the defense. the defense did all it could but one 3-and-out after another, by our offense, wore them down and made griese look like a legitimate starter. MM decided he'd make a point. we'd still be in first if we lost so no big deal. jones would take his medicine sitting on the bench and brett would be reminded that MM's in charge. one lame-ass run after another, an underneith route or two, and an occasional short pass on 3rd and long would be the order for the second half. not until he got behind would he give in but it was too late. points were made, messages sent...but at the expense of a win. i hope this game doesn't make a huge difference in the end when play-off seedings are being decided. i hope MM learned a lesson. this team didn't get to 4-0 by running the power sweep.
                          Exactly how I saw it.

                          Hope MM learns his little "punishment' tactic didn't work so well.

                          As far as Brett goes, I almost wonder how much influence the media has over a young coach, MM. With all the media talk of reigning in Brett Favre!! Could a little of that gone to his head a bit??? ....just a bit....maybe. Who better to let control the game under those circumstances then Favre? And it really appeared MM took that away after the bonehead pic to Urlacher. I hope all rookies....coach included, learned lessons from that game!!

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                          • #43
                            What was the run/pass ratio in the second half?
                            "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by LEWCWA
                              I guess if you challenge the spot and they do move it your challenge should be good and you shouldn't lose a TO. Challenges are limited so you don't have to worry about challenges on every play. That was a close call McCarthy was right and one more inch its not a first down. Getting it right shouldn't cost a TO. Bad rule IMO!
                              NFL Network has a weekly session where an NFL official explains some of the questionable calls of the week. Tonight I saw them explain about this challenge and the loss of a timeout. In this case he said that a coach cannot challenge the spot of the ball only if it is a first down. So even if M3 asked to challenge the spot he is onyl challenging the first down or not.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                                What was the run/pass ratio in the second half?
                                I don't think stats really tell the story. The team played without confidence. Didn't do anything creative or daring. Just because they had a low number of runs doesn't tell the story. No passes downfield on first down to loosen the defense.

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