Mark Roman is butt-hurt because we signed Marquand Manual

[Harlan Huckleby]

I doubt Roman is very upset. My point is his comments are insignificant.

Hell ya, managers communicate with employees in the "real world". The good ones do. It's good politics.

[MadtownPacker]

Did TT ask Favre if he could draft Rodgers??? NO!

Why should he ask Roman?

I like Roman on the roster though. He is a good player to have. Not very $$$$ either tight?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Did TT ask Favre if he could draft Rodgers???

No, of course not, this is a false argument. If Rodgers was a real threat to unseat Favre, it would be wise to have an assistant coach or head coach talk to Favre, just let him know how his role with team has or has not changed. This is good people skills.

[MadtownPacker]

This is good people skills.

TT doesnt appear to have any people skills. Better tha way since he has to swing the axe.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Since I make my living off of companies with bad management/poor communication skills I think the blue dog has a very valid point.

Everyday I praise jesus for stupid companies. They make my life so much easier. Employees, in general, are usually happy where they are, but make a move for issues other than salary, i.e., being passed over for promotion, lack of opportunity to advance, more challenging work, etc.

Roman isn't upset about having to compete, but in the manner in which he was told about it. Put yourself in his shoes, your boss comes to you and says that you are going to be a key player this upcoming year (stroking you like a good manager does), next thing you know they have hired a new guy who is now the key player, your role isn't just diminished but pretty much non existent.

If you aren't upset about that, then I would say resign your career to mediocrity. I would have my resume updated and start networking immediately. That is all Roman is doing.

Lastly, in the NFL, with careers around 4 years, and those with longevity playing for multiple teams, 2 years with an employer with more years to come does warrant being treated decently.

[Patler]

I doubt Roman is very upset. My point is his comments are insignificant.

Hell ya, managers communicate with employees in the "real world". The good ones do. It's good politics.

Hell no they don't. Not before the decisions are made. After the fact, sure. But not in advance. And that includes good ones too.

[Patler]

Should TT have explained himself to all the linebackers before drafting Hawk? To the guards before drafting Coledge. To Ferguson before signing Boerigter or befiore drafting the receivers?

Carroll is being more of a "man" about the signing of Woodson than Roman is over the signing of Manuel. Carroll said he found out from Woodson himself. He's not whinning about it, and as a first round draft choice who is much higher paid than Roman he might have more to complain about than Roman does.

These guys all know they are in an ultracompetitive situation. The minute someone better than them shows up, they will lose their job. Roman was simply overreacting and being petty and immature. Perhaps he has gotten over it. If so, no harm, no foul.

[Joemailman]

. It was a situation where you think you've put in enough time with the organization that you've earned a certain amount of respect and to be completely disrespected. . . "


Enough time????

Maybe he thought he had earned tenured status.

Someone needs to explain to Roman that Pro Football is a young man's game. The more time you've put in, the MORE likely it is that someone will be brought in to replace you. Not LESS. Just ask William Henderson. The question is, does Roman have the toughness that Henderson has shown to keep fighting the challengers off?[/b]

[ND72]

my point was, yes in good companies they will talk to the other employee's....but this isn't a we're hiring him you're fired situation. This was a we're improving our team by adding depth situation, how bout you be a man and step up and win the position in stead of crying about it like a wuss, situation.

[Rastak]

Should TT have explained himself to all the linebackers before drafting Hawk? To the guards before drafting Coledge. To Ferguson before signing Boerigter or befiore drafting the receivers?

Carroll is being more of a "man" about the signing of Woodson than Roman is over the signing of Manuel. Carroll said he found out from Woodson himself. He's not whinning about it, and as a first round draft choice who is much higher paid than Roman he might have more to complain about than Roman does.

These guys all know they are in an ultracompetitive situation. The minute someone better than them shows up, they will lose their job. Roman was simply overreacting and being petty and immature. Perhaps he has gotten over it. If so, no harm, no foul.

I thought Roman's main beef was that he had been misled by management's comments about his job status? Either way, he should shut up and accept the challenge. I though he played decently last year.

[Guiness]

I think the telling fact is that he's not attending off-season workouts because of this. That does point to me that he's being whinny about this.

Also interesting is the assumption he's making that this guy was brought in to replace him. Hearing footsteps buddy? Did TT or M3 ever anoint Manuel the starter? Not that I've heard, but Roman sure seems to think he is. Guess he's given up already, as opposed to fighting for his position. If Hendo had acted that way, Luchey would be our starting FB.

Should it have been mentioned to him? Maybe if they told him he was going to be running the show back there, and that changed, sure. But any player that doesn't expect the team to attempt to upgrade every position possible is an idiot. Didn't hear anything from Ferguson when Boeriger was signed. As pointed out, Carrol was ok with Woodson. Cole kept his mouth shut when Picket was signed. Why should Roman be any different that any of them?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Hell no they don't. Not before the decisions are made. After the fact, sure. But not in advance.

Wow, this is tedious. For the third time: I did not suggest that management should consult employees before making decisions.

If some change dramatically effects somebody's job or job security, a smart manager will have a talk with that individual so they know what is coming. You leave people to speculate, minds tend to wander into negative areas.

[Harlan Huckleby]

As pointed out, Carrol was ok with Woodson. Cole kept his mouth shut when Picket was signed. Why should Roman be any different that any of them?

It's true, the job of the GM is to constantly try and upgrade the roster. NFL players know the game.

I don't know exactly what Roman's beef is, but he cites a lack of communication, perhaps he was mislead. I find his comment mild, not worthy of a character ripping.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I think the telling fact is that he's not attending off-season workouts because of this.

Did Roman state this? Or was it a reporter's speculation?

[RashanGary]

I don't mean to be rude to Mark Roman but as a Packer fan, who really cares. He's a nice player as a back up or starter in a pinch but he can be replaced pretty easily. If he's going to be a disruption, let him go. Grady can't even get a job and Roman will probably be the same.

He needs to just play his best and let the rest take care of itself. He's not going ot gain respect whining. He's going to get respect with interceptions and tackles.