Mark Roman is butt-hurt because we signed Marquand Manual

[Fritz]

Not even a peep about Underwood in the mini-camps. I too found him to be a big disappointment. Is he the fourth-round version of Marques Anderson?

[Patler]

I agree, Underwood was something of a disappointment, although my expectations were not real high.. He was reputed to be a savy safety who read and reacted well. Sure didn't show that last year. A big hitter, I expected more of a ST contribution. He contributed very little.

Oh well. maybe there will be a big second year turn around!

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Two more thoughts,

1 - I didn't know management was required to consult players if competion is brought in.

2- Other than elite players(which Roman is not), who would complain about being a back-up in the NFL. The moneys great, he will play some, and may be starting if injuries occur.

How you can continue to miss the point is beyond me.

Roman learned of the signing from the media. That is poor communication on the part of GB.

He isn't complaining about competition, just that no one from the team told him they were signing a player.

How would you feel if you found out that you lost your job by reading it in the paper?. That is poor management.

And, if you don't think those kind of things get talked about between players and that it can influence which teams they sign with than you are really naive.

[Badgepack]

So every player we sign or draft, all players on the team at those positions must first be contacted?

[Rastak]

So every player we sign or draft, all players on the team at those positions must first be contacted?

I have no idea if Roman is full of crap or not but he said he recieved signals indicating he was the guy....then they traded for someone else.
Now I have no idea what the heck "recieved signals" means, but he has been in the league a while now and should understand how it works.
Almost nobody is promised a job.

[Scott Campbell]

The communication from the front office has gotten so bad that Donnel Washington was not informed that he needed to report to camp in football shape.

These stupid Packer executives are so damned forgetful.

[Guiness]

How would you feel if you found out that you lost your job by reading it in the paper?. That is poor management.

I think this part of the statment is what gets me. As I said in my previous post, I find it most interesting that he assumes he's been replaced. There's no fight in that boy.

An attitude of 'they think he's better? HA! No chance he gets my job' would be better.

You're right that players who've been around a while probably deserve a head's up so they don't get blindsided by a reporter asking them what it feels like to be replaced. I'm just not sure how the team goes about it. I honestly don't know how that communication would go, i.e. what the Pack could've said to Roman if they had called him.

"Hello, Roman? TT here. We've signed a younger safety to a deal for more money that you make. Ok? bye" <- I'm thinking that wouldn't work.

[Joemailman]

The communication from the front office has gotten so bad that Donnel Washington was not informed that he needed to report to camp in football shape.

These stupid Packer executives are so damned forgetful.

I heard that during the off-season Donnell purchased that new Cletidus Hunt work-out video.

[Tarlam!]

How would you feel if you found out that you lost your job by reading it in the paper?. That is poor management.

....An attitude of 'they think he's better? HA! No chance he gets my job' would be better.

You're right that players who've been around a while probably deserve a head's up so they don't get blindsided by a reporter asking them what it feels like to be replaced. I'm just not sure how the team goes about it. I honestly don't know how that communication would go, i.e. what the Pack could've said to Roman if they had called him.

"Hello, Roman? TT here. We've signed a younger safety to a deal for more money that you make. Ok? bye"

Guiness, TB has this correct. Just like in his post on page 1 (which I messed, and repeated! Sorry), this deal is about communication. Most companies have a notice board. Ours does. Anyway, one day, one of my direct colleagues and I were reading that board, and there was an announcement that my colleague had been transferred to another department.

Except, nobody had told him first! It was a shitty feeling. In effect, this is what has happened to Roman. It is not very nice.

Now, Roman is a big boy. From the press, it would appear M3 has acknowledged mistakes and, I am guessing, has apologized. Roman should accept this and moe on. He can use his anger as motivation. He should be out to prove TT wasted money on a superfluous free agent signing.

[RashanGary]

Yeah...At my crappy company we just got a new TL. now we can't go on teh internet.....I'm looking over my shoulder right now...

That fucker. I'm ready to quit.

[GrnBay007]

I heard that during the off-season Donnell purchased that new Cletidus Hunt work-out video.

C'mon.......where is Greenday to post one of his Hunt- Fat Albert - dope smokin pics??? It was Greenday, right?

[Tarlam!]

Yeah...At my crappy company we just got a new TL. now we can't go on teh internet.....I'm looking over my shoulder right now...

That fucker. I'm ready to quit.

Gee, you don't think your company can expect you not to loafing on these here pages and instead contributing to their profit and growth?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

[quote="Tarlam!"][quote="Guiness"]

Guiness, TB has this correct. Just like in his post on page 1 (which I messed, and repeated! Sorry), this deal is about communication. Most companies have a notice board. Ours does. Anyway, one day, one of my direct colleagues and I were reading that board, and there was an announcement that my colleague had been transferred to another department.

Except, nobody had told him first! It was a shitty feeling. In effect, this is what has happened to Roman. It is not very nice.

Now, Roman is a big boy. From the press, it would appear M3 has acknowledged mistakes and, I am guessing, has apologized. Roman should accept this and moe on. He can use his anger as motivation. He should be out to prove TT wasted money on a superfluous free agent signing.

Thank you. Finally someone acknowledges my genius.

I don't know poster's respective education or what they do for work, but in the white collar world (which at the pay pro athletes make, makes them closer to white than blue) this lack of communication leads to poor attitudes and employees leaving.

For example, a major engineering firm is restructuring. They pushed out a branch manager and brought in a new manager without ever holding any "all hands meeting." What this did was make all senior personnel question their roles and future with the company. And, if they are thinking about this, then they aren't being productive.

Conclusion: A referral from a previous employee of said company allowed me to swoop in a steal one of their senior members (and I guarantee it won't be the last one). A key loss that could have been prevented by COMMUNICATION. A competitor was strengthened and I got PAID.

[Badgepack]

Appreciate your questioning my education. I'll bet that Al Harris was not upset that Woodson was brought in. Tauscher or Clifton also would not have a fit it other tackles were signed. An employee knows when they are not doing their job well and should not be suprised when the are replaced or re-assigned.


A true team player would welcome any improvements made to the team, would welcome the challenge, and bust ass and try to make the starting line up.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Appreciate your questioning my education. I'll bet that Al Harris was not upset that Woodson was brought in. Tauscher or Clifton also would not have a fit it other tackles were signed. An employee knows when they are not doing their job well and should not be suprised when the are replaced or re-assigned.


A true team player would welcome any improvements made to the team, would welcome the challenge, and bust ass and try to make the starting line up.

Who is questioning your education?

The point is not about competition. It is about communication. Roman, lest we forget, was wooed here. To sign another player, who will compete with him, and not let him know he was signed is just poor management. Roman shouldn't find out about it through reporters.

Woodson wasn't brought in to take Harris' job, so that isn't a valid point. And, don't speak about Clifton or Tausch until that situation happens. We do know that Tausch was willing to move to guard, but he wasn't thrilled about it and expressed that his pref was to stay at tackle.

Employees: Hardly true. Most employees don't have an objective view of their skills and abilities. I deal with it daily, believe me, most people are way deluded.

Team players: You are being a bit naive. These are world class athletes with enormous egos. Huge egos that they need in order to compete.