The Second Coming of Dorsey Levens

[Maxie the Taxi]

Yeah, so there. Me and Maxi are the real front runners here. We also are one of the few with an "x" in our name so we have to stick together.

I'm with ya, esoxx. Now let's talk about our marketing ideas and a more creative name for the Grant gang.

[esoxx]

Yeah, so there. Me and Maxi are the real front runners here. We also are one of the few with an "x" in our name so we have to stick together.

I'm with ya, esoxx. Now let's talk about our marketing ideas and a more creative name for the Grant gang.

Agreed. The Grant Gang sounds like the Brady Bunch only not as fun and further down in the alphabet.

The General Grant's somethin' or others might do.

Grant's Gestapo could be offensive so need to stay away from that.

Ah hell The Ryan Grant Fan Club might be the ticket. I'm more old school, it may not be flashy but it's dependable and to the point. Much like his running style.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Yeah, so there. Me and Maxi are the real front runners here. We also are one of the few with an "x" in our name so we have to stick together.

I'm with ya, esoxx. Now let's talk about our marketing ideas and a more creative name for the Grant gang.

Agreed. The Grant Gang sounds like the Brady Bunch only not as fun and further down in the alphabet.

The General Grant's somethin' or others might do.

Grant's Gestapo could be offensive so need to stay away from that.

Ah hell The Ryan Grant Fan Club might be the ticket. I'm more old school, it may not be flashy but it's dependable and to the point. Much like his running style.

You got me with "old school." That's my middle name. "The Ryan Grant Fan Club" it is.

[Bretsky]

Yeah, so there. Me and Maxi are the real front runners here. We also are one of the few with an "x" in our name so we have to stick together.

I'm with ya, esoxx. Now let's talk about our marketing ideas and a more creative name for the Grant gang.

Agreed. The Grant Gang sounds like the Brady Bunch only not as fun and further down in the alphabet.

The General Grant's somethin' or others might do.

Grant's Gestapo could be offensive so need to stay away from that.

Ah hell The Ryan Grant Fan Club might be the ticket. I'm more old school, it may not be flashy but it's dependable and to the point. Much like his running style.

Are you guys reading challenged; it's "Gang Grant"

I'm suing your @sses

[FritzDontBlitz]

How about "Roster Grant?"

Yeah I know. Lame....

[Maxie the Taxi]

Yeah, so there. Me and Maxi are the real front runners here. We also are one of the few with an "x" in our name so we have to stick together.

I'm with ya, esoxx. Now let's talk about our marketing ideas and a more creative name for the Grant gang.

Agreed. The Grant Gang sounds like the Brady Bunch only not as fun and further down in the alphabet.

The General Grant's somethin' or others might do.

Grant's Gestapo could be offensive so need to stay away from that.

Ah hell The Ryan Grant Fan Club might be the ticket. I'm more old school, it may not be flashy but it's dependable and to the point. Much like his running style.

Are you guys reading challenged; it's "Gang Grant"

I'm suing your @sses

Next thing you're gonna tell me is that the guy's real name is Grant Ryan.

[Green Bud Packer]

The Grantastics

[MJZiggy]

I like it.

[FritzDontBlitz]

Yeah, so there. Me and Maxi are the real front runners here. We also are one of the few with an "x" in our name so we have to stick together.

I'm with ya, esoxx. Now let's talk about our marketing ideas and a more creative name for the Grant gang.

Agreed. The Grant Gang sounds like the Brady Bunch only not as fun and further down in the alphabet.

The General Grant's somethin' or others might do.

Grant's Gestapo could be offensive so need to stay away from that.

Ah hell The Ryan Grant Fan Club might be the ticket. I'm more old school, it may not be flashy but it's dependable and to the point. Much like his running style.

Are you guys reading challenged; it's "Gang Grant"

I'm suing your @sses

Next thing you're gonna tell me is that the guy's real name is Grant Ryan.

Just be glad his name isnt "Grant Goodeve."

Although, now that I think of it, "Grant Goodheave" would be a great name for a franchise QB.

or a bulimic male.....

[RashanGary]

Grant seems OK. He doesn't have a lot of shake. I feel like Wynn (if healthy and with an off season of hard work) can be a better player. Wynn is a big back with good speed, good instincts and deceptive shake in once he gets in the secondary, allowing him to break big runs. I think Wynn is out of shape and his health is suffering because of it. IF, and this is a big if, he can put in a good year of hard work through this offseason and into next year, I think he can be a good running back; better than Grant. Grant can hit the hole and be a somewhat productive player, but I don't see him breaking big runs unless there is nobody in his way. He's just a straight ahead player with no wiggle. It works fine going through the hole, it just stops him from doing anything special. I like big, downhill guys who happen to also have just enough shake in the secondary to make one guy miss. I don't know if Grant has latter. Maybe he has the power to run through people and the balance to keep going. That works too. I just don't see a very good RB. I see a below average starter, but a good backup.


If we're hearing from McCarthy next off season about how Wynn is a different player and how hard he worked in the off season, I will jump on the Wynn band wagon. If not, I hope we find someone else.

[RashanGary]

Ideal for me is:

Wynn busts his hump and comes in looking like a re-encarnation of Frank Gore.

Jackson gains 5 lbs, weighing 210. He runs more down hill, only using his cutting in the secondary or in the flat. (the Packers use his skills to attack the edge and in the passing game)


Wynn (starter)
Grant (short yardage / any injury he starts)
Jackson (3rd down back)

The big IF here is Wynn having a great off season. I'll feel that out going into next years TC. If that doesn't happen, I think we're in big need of a RB still because Morency sucks and I don't like Jackson or Grant as the long term starter. Grant can get us through this year. I just hope we're not married to him.

[Bretsky]

Grant seems OK. He doesn't have a lot of shake. I feel like Wynn (if healthy and with an off season of hard work) can be a better player. Wynn is a big back with good speed, good instincts and deceptive shake in once he gets in the secondary, allowing him to break big runs. I think Wynn is out of shape and his health is suffering because of it. IF, and this is a big if, he can put in a good year of hard work through this offseason and into next year, I think he can be a good running back; better than Grant. Grant can hit the hole and be a somewhat productive player, but I don't see him breaking big runs unless there is nobody in his way. He's just a straight ahead player with no wiggle. It works fine going through the hole, it just stops him from doing anything special. I like big, downhill guys who happen to also have just enough shake in the secondary to make one guy miss. I don't know if Grant has latter. Maybe he has the power to run through people and the balance to keep going. That works too. I just don't see a very good RB. I see a below average starter, but a good backup.


If we're hearing from McCarthy next off season about how Wynn is a different player and how hard he worked in the off season, I will jump on the Wynn band wagon. If not, I hope we find someone else.

IMO Wynn is a head case with a bad attitude

That's probably why he never lived up to his bill at Florida and why GM's avoided him for six straight rounds

He's nobody I'd ever dream of counting on and I'd doubt he accomplishes much in GB

From what I've seen and heard of Grant he is the opposite; if our RB of the future is on this roster I think we saw him star Monday

[Bretsky]

If we're hearing from McCarthy next off season about how Wynn is a different player and how hard he worked in the off season, I will jump on the Wynn band wagon. If not, I hope we find someone else.

Remember one thing

Many in here believed MM on how Underwood was way ahead of his injury schedule and how he was working his arse off during the offseason. All that dribble is offseason coach talk. None of it is reliable. I think Wynn will have to come back a different person to really make it.

[RashanGary]

I never had the impression Underwood was one of those guys who was doing great. Harvey thought so, but he wasn't one of the guys MM went out of his way to hype up. I think a couple people here made that up. MM was asked directly a couple times about Underwood to my recollection and he said he's doing good (he says that about any player if asked). MM went out of his way to praise others when asked "who" is doing best.

Donald Lee and Vernand Morency were the two big ones. Morency is just a bad runner, and Lee has made big gains. Moll, Spitz and Colledge also made pretty big gains from what I understand and based on the pass pro, it really paid off. I blame the run game more on the RB's, playcalling and coaching instability.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I think Wynn will have to come back a different person to really make it.

Nobody here knows what kind of person Wynn is.