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  • #76
    Originally posted by JustinHarrell
    Originally posted by Bretsky

    Playcalling and RB's have to chance when the DL is in the backfield before the RB hits stride. That's the OL. That's what has occured too much this year. And with average at best RB's they don't make the OL look better than they are either
    .
    Coaching tells OG's to let a guy go and get to the 2nd level. If you rewatch those plays, Colledge let his guy go on purpose and went right to the LB. It could be colledge, but I find it funny that he didn't do that last year, but now with Jags gone he is all of a sudden just letting guys run free. That is coaching IMO. Last year the got rag-dolled and beat physically. That was teh lineman for sure. This year the regressed in their assignments and I blame that on the only thing that changed; the coaching.

    I see it both ways

    OL is not good enough to make the below average RB's look better
    and
    RB's are not good enough to make a below average run blocking OL look better

    DANG, if we could just play Denver every week
    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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    • #77
      Originally posted by JustinHarrell
      Morency is a stumble bum who trips over his feet. He's gone.
      Unfortunately he's not gone, he's a key cog in the wheel.

      I think people should be worried that Wynn went down. As bad as Morency may be, Jackson has been unable to unseat him. That ain't good.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
        Originally posted by JustinHarrell
        Morency is a stumble bum who trips over his feet. He's gone.
        Unfortunately he's not gone, he's a key cog in the wheel.

        I think people should be worried that Wynn went down. As bad as Morency may be, Jackson has been unable to unseat him. That ain't good.

        Jackson has been a disappointment. At first I didn't like the draft pick, but with my dislike for Morency I convinced myself he had to be the man and TT would not have used a #2 unless he was the real deal

        As for Wynn, He is what I thought he was........lol..lil Denny Green Stuff there
        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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        • #79
          I swear HH is related to Wynn or something.
          Originally posted by 3irty1
          This is museum quality stupidity.

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          • #80
            Wynn and Justin Harrell are 2 rookies who came to camp in less than great shape and have paid the price. MM is very big on off-season conditioning. We'll find out a lot about their attitudes by what kind of shape they show up in next spring.
            I can't run no more
            With that lawless crowd
            While the killers in high places
            Say their prayers out loud
            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
            A thundercloud
            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Joemailman
              Wynn and Justin Harrell are 2 rookies who came to camp in less than great shape and have paid the price. MM is very big on off-season conditioning. We'll find out a lot about their attitudes by what kind of shape they show up in next spring.
              I agree. Some college guys are ready. Some take a year or two to really turn it on.
              Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Bretsky
                Hey, you were the one that said nobody knows what kind of person Wynn is.
                So I give you facts, and then you don't care. Flippin apologist
                I accept Wynn was a risk. ANY 7th rounder is a long shot. I just give players a clean slate. The only facts I care about are how he does in GB.

                Davenport was a dissappointment in GB. Pittsburgh didn't hold that against him, and it worked out.

                Wynn could be a nogoodnick. I still havn't seen anything that leads me to believe that Wynn won't be a player. I trust the coaches judgement first on questions of attitude, they are close to the situation. Actions speak louder than words/rumors, and the coaches kept him as a starter. If the coaches cut him next year, then you were right.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Joemailman
                  Wynn and Justin Harrell are 2 rookies who came to camp in less than great shape and have paid the price.
                  this is likely true.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                    Originally posted by Bretsky
                    I think Wynn will have to come back a different person to really make it.
                    Nobody here knows what kind of person Wynn is.
                    His college coaches didn't think much of him. Basically, the negatives about him in college have stayed with him in the pros. Get over it, Harlan.
                    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                      His college coaches didn't think much of him. Basically, the negatives about him in college have stayed with him in the pros. Get over it, Harlan.
                      What negatives?

                      Why did the coaches move him ahead of the other three guys if he was a bum?

                      This is speculation.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                        Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                        His college coaches didn't think much of him. Basically, the negatives about him in college have stayed with him in the pros. Get over it, Harlan.
                        What negatives?

                        Why did the coaches move him ahead of the other three guys if he was a bum?

                        This is speculation.

                        Out of curiosity, how closely did you follow Wynn's career for the Gators ?? Of course no facts are ever facts because we don't know for 100% why he fell out of favor; but.........Sometimes I wonder if you are arguing just to argue.
                        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                          Originally posted by Zool
                          This is based on pure conjecture but...

                          Grant wasnt in until after the final pre-season game so he had to learn the O.

                          Protecting Favre is job #1 with RB's here this season. Maybe Wynn is better at blitz pickup.

                          Maybe all things being equal they are neck and neck for talent, but they finally tired of Wynn being hurt/injured.
                          I think this is about right.

                          I still say the running back derby isn't over.
                          To your points here about Wynn vs. Grant...I heard MM during his post game presser say that Grant was on their minds and they had confidence in him, he just came in a little later in the process and has had to play catch-up. I'd be ecstatic if Grant would just take that thing and run with it. Wynn can get some carries to spell Grant and Morency can get some third down plays; kinda like when we had Ahman as our primary (Grant), Najeh as our short-yardage/spell Ahman guy (Wynn) and Fisher (Morency) as our third down back. OK, Grant is not Green, but he could be a diamond in the rough. I don't know where that leaves our 2nd round pick Jackson.
                          "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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                          • #88
                            From a pre-draft scouting report on Wynn:


                            Is thought to be as a third-round talent but a questionable pick at that round because of inconsistent play and practice habits and a chronic shoulder problem.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Patler
                              From a pre-draft scouting report on Wynn:


                              Is thought to be as a third-round talent but a questionable pick at that round because of inconsistent play and practice habits and a chronic shoulder problem.

                              Gosh, I've been waiting for you to show up and come up with some of the facts for me
                              TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                                Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                                His college coaches didn't think much of him. Basically, the negatives about him in college have stayed with him in the pros. Get over it, Harlan.
                                What negatives?

                                Why did the coaches move him ahead of the other three guys if he was a bum?

                                This is speculation.
                                Negatives? Basically, he's soft and he had numerous incidents at Florida. Nothing criminal, but a primadonna that gave them problems numerous times.

                                Morency got hurt. Jackson sucked. Grant didn't get acquired until after the preseason. Not hard to figure out.
                                "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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