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  • #61
    The Grant Plant?

    If Grant can't nobody Can?
    "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi
      I've liked Grant since they picked him up. If McCarthy doesn't name him THE starting running back from here on out, I'll be disappointed. He runs with power like Levens but seems quicker and faster to me.
      MM said in his press conference last night that it's safe to assume that Grant will be the starter next week. It's his job to lose.
      I can't run no more
      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
      A thundercloud
      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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      • #63
        "That was probably about as big a decision that was made all night, Greg Jennings calling heads on the coin toss," McCarthy said. "I think you should go tails, and he told me he was going heads, and I'm glad I didn't say what I wanted to say."

        This isn't the place for this, but it's pretty funny. MM and GJ fighting over heads or tails. I like how MM let's the players be themselves. He seems like a big softy to me. Everyone loves him, even introverts like Woodson.
        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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        • #64
          Softy? You obviously missed the training camp report on him.
          "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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          • #65
            "I think he has a very bright future," McCarthy said. "It's unfortunate that he has to go down on IR, but we're excited about DeShawn's future here. Because he has all the ability. He can be as good as he wants to be."


            IF Wynn works hard, I have a feeling he'll be serving up a lot of crow next year. He is a very talented player. He's big, fast, strong (and has room to get bigger faster and stronger). For how big he is, he has really good moves. I hate to borrow McCarthy's comments, but he has very quick feet, esspcially for a big guy. He goes down hill, but he can avoid tacklers in the open field too. He has everything you look for and a very high ceiling.

            I'm reserving the right to jump off the wagon if he has a bad off season, but IF he has a good off season, I think this guy can be a 1,000 yard back.
            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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            • #66
              Big guy with good feet but no heart
              Pass Jessica's Law and keep the predators behind bars for 25 years minimum. Vote out liberal, SP judges. Enforce all immigrant laws!

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              • #67
                Originally posted by b bulldog
                Big guy with good feet but no heart
                how do you know he has no heart?

                did he have some injuries that he should have played with?

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                  Originally posted by Bretsky
                  I think Wynn will have to come back a different person to really make it.
                  Nobody here knows what kind of person Wynn is.

                  Nope we don't

                  But we know he was a huge underachiever at Florida and fell out of favor with the staff

                  We know he had very good talent and for some reason he went undrafted for six rounds when talent wise he was suppose to be much better

                  We know MM made references about him needing to play through the niks and bruises

                  You do the Math
                  TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                    I never had the impression Underwood was one of those guys who was doing great. Harvey thought so, but he wasn't one of the guys MM went out of his way to hype up. I think a couple people here made that up. MM was asked directly a couple times about Underwood to my recollection and he said he's doing good (he says that about any player if asked). MM went out of his way to praise others when asked "who" is doing best.

                    Donald Lee and Vernand Morency were the two big ones. Morency is just a bad runner, and Lee has made big gains. Moll, Spitz and Colledge also made pretty big gains from what I understand and based on the pass pro, it really paid off. I blame the run game more on the RB's, playcalling and coaching instability.
                    Playcalling and RB's have to chance when the DL is in the backfield before the RB hits stride. That's the OL. That's what has occured too much this year. And with average at best RB's they don't make the OL look better than they are either

                    We saw hope against Denver, but they also have the worst run D in the NFL
                    Hopefully we see some more good blocking against decent run defenses as well.
                    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                      I never had the impression Underwood was one of those guys who was doing great. Harvey thought so, but he wasn't one of the guys MM went out of his way to hype up. I think a couple people here made that up. MM was asked directly a couple times about Underwood to my recollection and he said he's doing good (he says that about any player if asked). MM went out of his way to praise others when asked "who" is doing best.

                      Donald Lee and Vernand Morency were the two big ones. Morency is just a bad runner, and Lee has made big gains. Moll, Spitz and Colledge also made pretty big gains from what I understand and based on the pass pro, it really paid off. I blame the run game more on the RB's, playcalling and coaching instability.
                      I disagree with every sentiment in this post. Every single one. Morency is not as good as I had hoped, but I am also not convinced he is healthy. He is there best big play back and will definitely have a roster spot next year.

                      Most teams have a blend of players that excel at both run and pass blocking, or one or the other. We seem to be pass blocking heavy. I'm not convinced we'd be rushing for 100 yds/game w/ LT and Turner as our #1 and #2.


                      Bretsky, to be fair, Meyer still doesn't use a running back even without Wynn. That team clearly has talent at every position. I think its more of a system thing than a lack of talent thing. I went back and looked up 2004 in Utah, where he had 3 guys very close in rushing with 600 yards. Alex Smith was one of them. My guess is with the weak defenses of whatever conference Utah is in they could use a back more effectively while keeping the mobile QB offense in use.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Bretsky
                        But we know he was a huge underachiever at Florida and fell out of favor with the staff

                        We know he had very good talent and for some reason he went undrafted for six rounds when talent wise he was suppose to be much better
                        I don't care. IF he is not progressing here in GB, then he's a problem.

                        Coaches seemed satisfied with him. They could have EASILY moved Grant ahead of him at the bye week if he was not performing.

                        Originally posted by Bretsky
                        We know MM made references about him needing to play through the niks and bruises
                        Maybe he said this. Most of the "quotes" I've seen have been people making stuff up.

                        The fans LOVE to have a player they can call a pussy, it is fun. Barnett has been called a pussy. Clifton. Sharper. Often defensive backs like T-Buck. It's just a lot of nonsense that takes on a life of its own.

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                        • #72
                          I was very impressed with Grant.
                          Wynn? Can't win a job in the training room.
                          Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Bretsky

                            Playcalling and RB's have to chance when the DL is in the backfield before the RB hits stride. That's the OL. That's what has occured too much this year. And with average at best RB's they don't make the OL look better than they are either
                            .
                            Coaching tells OG's to let a guy go and get to the 2nd level. If you rewatch those plays, Colledge let his guy go on purpose and went right to the LB. It could be colledge, but I find it funny that he didn't do that last year, but now with Jags gone he is all of a sudden just letting guys run free. That is coaching IMO. Last year the got rag-dolled and beat physically. That was teh lineman for sure. This year the regressed in their assignments and I blame that on the only thing that changed; the coaching.
                            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                            • #74
                              For as bad as Harry Sydney is at projecting college talent and predicting the future, he is a pretty good evaluator of RB's.

                              L. Syd says Morency cuts on the wrong foot all of the time and can't stay on his feet. I started looking for it, and low and behold, the guy trips over his own feet, trying to cut off his inside foot all of the time.

                              You don't teach a guy how not to trip over his feet at age 27. You either have that skill or you don't. So much of skill in football or basketball or any sport is natural. Look at that little kid (cody paul on youtube). You telling me some coach taught him all of his moves? The kid knows how to keep his feet under himself. Nobody taught him how not to trip over his feet when he cut, he just sort of knew how as a small kid. Jennings and Jones are natural WR's. Wynn is a natural runner IMO. Morency is a stumble bum who trips over his feet. He's gone.
                              Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                                Originally posted by Bretsky
                                But we know he was a huge underachiever at Florida and fell out of favor with the staff

                                We know he had very good talent and for some reason he went undrafted for six rounds when talent wise he was suppose to be much better
                                I don't care. IF he is not progressing here in GB, then he's a problem.

                                Coaches seemed satisfied with him. They could have EASILY moved Grant ahead of him at the bye week if he was not performing.

                                Originally posted by Bretsky
                                We know MM made references about him needing to play through the niks and bruises
                                Maybe he said this. Most of the "quotes" I've seen have been people making stuff up.

                                The fans LOVE to have a player they can call a pussy, it is fun. Barnett has been called a pussy. Clifton. Sharper. Often defensive backs like T-Buck. It's just a lot of nonsense that takes on a life of its own.

                                Hey, you were the one that said nobody knows what kind of person Wynn is.
                                So I give you facts, and then you don't care. Flippin apologist
                                TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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