The Silver Haired Teddy Bear Deserves A Snuggle

[Joemailman]

Packertimer has it right. Because Thompson had confidence that the guys on his roster were as good or better than most of the players available in free agency, he was seen as tightwad, a hibernator, or a turtle. Sometimes the best deals are the ones you don't make. San Francisco was supposed to be a big winner in free agency, and they are 2-6. Sometimes free agency works, and sometimes it doesn't. New England appears to have done well, but they were probably the second best team in the league already, so I'm not sure how big a difference there is.

In his third year, TT has this team at 8-1, and they are probably at worst the second best team in the NFC. Ron Wolf is justifiably in the Packer Hall Of Fame for what he did here as GM. In his third year in Green Bay, the Packers were still stuck on 9-7. Can't predict the future, but Thompson so far need not take a back seat to his predecessors.

[son of a vic]

Nice end around Merlin, but you didn't answer my question. What is the outcome of this season that will satisfy you?

We don't need six paragraphs, just a record, and how far into the play-offs.

When he makes a positive impact on the items I have been talking about for 3 years. For some of us, it's not all about the record. Just because that is your only measure of success doesn't mean it's the same for all of us. According to your yard stick, Sherman was a great GM, right?

And I don't need your constant failure to comprehend what is said. If you don't understand the concept, ask someone to explain it to you.

Greg Jennings, A.J. Hawk, James Jones, Ryan Grant, Brady Poppinga, Charles Woodson, an entire revamp of the defensive line (except for Kampman,) a head coach that can win on the road,(and at home), an explosive offense, a physical defense, exciting hard nosed football.

You're right, I don't understand how much more of an impact Ted could have on you, other than him coming off the top rope and slamming your sorry ass down to the canvas. Oh, forgive me, you are already there according to this thread.

So in a nutshell, If the Packers get to the Super Bowl this year, you will be bent because Ted hasn't done his job up to YOUR standards.

This is funny shit. Maybe you should head out to Hollywood and bust ass throught the picket line. You make me laugh a lot harder than any sitcom ever could.
And as far the the ITEMS you feel are not being addressed, RETURN TO SENDER.

[The Shadow]

Nice end around Merlin, but you didn't answer my question. What is the outcome of this season that will satisfy you?

We don't need six paragraphs, just a record, and how far into the play-offs.

When he makes a positive impact on the items I have been talking about for 3 years. For some of us, it's not all about the record. Just because that is your only measure of success doesn't mean it's the same for all of us. According to your yard stick, Sherman was a great GM, right?

And I don't need your constant failure to comprehend what is said. If you don't understand the concept, ask someone to explain it to you.

Greg Jennings, A.J. Hawk, James Jones, Ryan Grant, Brady Poppinga, Charles Woodson, an entire revamp of the defensive line (except for Kampman,) a head coach that can win on the road,(and at home), an explosive offense, a physical defense, exciting hard nosed football.

You're right, I don't understand how much more of an impact Ted could have on you, other than him coming off the top rope and slamming your sorry ass down to the canvas. Oh, forgive me, you are already there according to this thread.

So in a nutshell, If the Packers get to the Super Bowl this year, you will be bent because Ted hasn't done his job up to YOUR standards.

This is funny shit. Maybe you should head out to Hollywood and bust ass throught the picket line. You make me laugh a lot harder than any sitcom ever could.
And as far the the ITEMS you feel are not being addressed, RETURN TO SENDER.

LOL!!!

[Merlin]

I love all the bullshit you guys come up with!

"Don't disagree with us because Sherman was a joke but Thompson is the real deal and has been since day one! Ron Wolf was a great GM! (after we had multiple years of success of course)" "He Got Jennings, Jones, Hawk, Grant, and Woodson" "Revamped Defense" (top 5 right?) "Doesn't matter that Sherman won games, Thompson is EIGHT AND ONE!" "DID YOU HEAR ME EIGHT AND ONE!" "You are BENT even if we win the super bowl!" (dunno what field that came out of)

That's all you got in your support of the guy????

And I am the one with a problem? Eh, no.

[the_idle_threat]

[esoxx]

In his third year, TT has this team at 8-1, and they are probably at worst the second best team in the NFC. Ron Wolf is justifiably in the Packer Hall Of Fame for what he did here as GM. In his third year in Green Bay, the Packers were still stuck on 9-7. Can't predict the future, but Thompson so far need not take a back seat to his predecessors.

Whoa, slow down there.

TT certainly does take a back seat to Lombardi & Wolf, who both brought World Championships to Titletown. We're getting a little carried away here.

When we add another SB trophy to the collection we'll talk about comparisons.

[son of a vic]

I love all the bullshit you guys come up with!

"Don't disagree with us because Sherman was a joke but Thompson is the real deal and has been since day one! Ron Wolf was a great GM! (after we had multiple years of success of course)" "He Got Jennings, Jones, Hawk, Grant, and Woodson" "Revamped Defense" (top 5 right?) "Doesn't matter that Sherman won games, Thompson is EIGHT AND ONE!" "DID YOU HEAR ME EIGHT AND ONE!" "You are BENT even if we win the super bowl!" (dunno what field that came out of)

That's all you got in your support of the guy????

And I am the one with a problem? Eh, no.

POINT NO. 1----This isn't about Shermy, it's about admitting Ted has the team pointed in the right direction.

POINT NO. 2----I said if they GET to a Super Bowl. And the field of cow manure that came out of, was your brainless comment regarding "only basing my opinion" on such a trivial thing as an 8-1 record.

I know this next question is going to have me lyin' on the floor pissin' my pants, but tell us why you think Shermy was a better GM than Ted.

[Joemailman]

In his third year, TT has this team at 8-1, and they are probably at worst the second best team in the NFC. Ron Wolf is justifiably in the Packer Hall Of Fame for what he did here as GM. In his third year in Green Bay, the Packers were still stuck on 9-7. Can't predict the future, but Thompson so far need not take a back seat to his predecessors.

Whoa, slow down there.

TT certainly does take a back seat to Lombardi & Wolf, who both brought World Championships to Titletown. We're getting a little carried away here.

When we add another SB trophy to the collection we'll talk about comparisons.

Two things. I wasn't intending any comparison to Lombardi. By predecessors, I meant Sherman and Wolf. Also, my comparison was between where the Packers are in Thompson's third year vs. Wolf's third year. Please note I said so far.

[cheesner]

Nice end around Merlin, but you didn't answer my question. What is the outcome of this season that will satisfy you?

We don't need six paragraphs, just a record, and how far into the play-offs.

When he makes a positive impact on the items I have been talking about for 3 years. For some of us, it's not all about the record. Just because that is your only measure of success doesn't mean it's the same for all of us. According to your yard stick, Sherman was a great GM, right?

And I don't need your constant failure to comprehend what is said. If you don't understand the concept, ask someone to explain it to you.

Greg Jennings, A.J. Hawk, James Jones, Ryan Grant, Brady Poppinga, Charles Woodson, an entire revamp of the defensive line (except for Kampman,) a head coach that can win on the road,(and at home), an explosive offense, a physical defense, exciting hard nosed football.

You're right, I don't understand how much more of an impact Ted could have on you, other than him coming off the top rope and slamming your sorry ass down to the canvas. Oh, forgive me, you are already there according to this thread.

So in a nutshell, If the Packers get to the Super Bowl this year, you will be bent because Ted hasn't done his job up to YOUR standards.

This is funny shit. Maybe you should head out to Hollywood and bust ass throught the picket line. You make me laugh a lot harder than any sitcom ever could.
And as far the the ITEMS you feel are not being addressed, RETURN TO SENDER.

I love all the bullshit you guys come up with!

"Don't disagree with us because Sherman was a joke but Thompson is the real deal and has been since day one! Ron Wolf was a great GM! (after we had multiple years of success of course)" "He Got Jennings, Jones, Hawk, Grant, and Woodson" "Revamped Defense" (top 5 right?) "Doesn't matter that Sherman won games, Thompson is EIGHT AND ONE!" "DID YOU HEAR ME EIGHT AND ONE!" "You are BENT even if we win the super bowl!" (dunno what field that came out of)

That's all you got in your support of the guy????

And I am the one with a problem? Eh, no.

Odd. I have to explain your own posts to you, but here goes.

"You are BENT even if we win the super bowl!" (dunno what field that came out of)

You were asked what it would take for you to be satisfied with the season. Your response was "When he makes a positive impact on the items I have been talking about for 3 years."

Your post did not mention any level of success for the Packers for you to be happy. Therefore, even if the Packers won the Superbowl, but didn't address your issues, you would still be dissatisfied. I think that explains your attitudes and posts quite a bit. I just don't understand it.

[cpk1994]

Packertimer has it right. Because Thompson had confidence that the guys on his roster were as good or better than most of the players available in free agency, he was seen as tightwad, a hibernator, or a turtle. Sometimes the best deals are the ones you don't make. San Francisco was supposed to be a big winner in free agency, and they are 2-6. Sometimes free agency works, and sometimes it doesn't. New England appears to have done well, but they were probably the second best team in the league already, so I'm not sure how big a difference there is.

In his third year, TT has this team at 8-1, and they are probably at worst the second best team in the NFC. Ron Wolf is justifiably in the Packer Hall Of Fame for what he did here as GM. In his third year in Green Bay, the Packers were still stuck on 9-7. Can't predict the future, but Thompson so far need not take a back seat to his predecessors.

Good example, but why don't we Woody and Merlin a better example. A team that is doing the things they want TT to do. A team Rastak is very familiar with. That right the Minnesota Vikings. A team that has invested $100 Million on one side of the line. A team that paid $2.1 million/yr for a kicker. A team that spents millions on Darren Sharper, Fred Smoot and others on the defense over the last 3 seasons. All these big name free agents. Their record: 3-6. IF TT ran the team The Woody/Merlin way, the Pack would be in cap hell, the team with a 2-14 record and Favre retired because he got tired of the BS. Woody and Merlin should continue to post though. I get a real good laugh at their ignorance. OTOH, when Woody's wet dreams about Randy Moss stop, and when Merlin can't find anyone else on the team to disparage to try and bolster is ever failing anti-TT campaign, maybe then they will rejoin reality.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Wow. I can't believe the posts I read from Woodbuck and Merlin. You guys have to be the most miserable bastards ever.

And, Woodbuck, you have to be one of the dumbest ever. I would be embarrassed to even have thought what you wrote.

"I would FIRE TT in a NY minute and confidently hire any number of people even here on this Forum to replace him."

The bottom line is this. The top guy gets the credit and the blame for EVERYTHING. To say that the success of this team doesn't reflect on TT is ludicrous. This is HIS team. Regardless of players that he inherited. Those players could have been cut or traded. Those are decisions that TT made. If MM installs the offense and defense that is a winner, then it is certainly TT's success as he hired him. And, let's not forget how many fans were against the MM hiring. TT took a bunch of heat for that. Now, you wanna just give the credit to MM? Laughable.

TT could have traded Favre. He could have cut good players that he didn't like, didn't feel could adapt, etc. Those are decisions HE made. And, deciding not to do something is a decision as much as deciding to do something.

Oh, and for you two, the last time we had a poor running game...that would be under Ron Wolf in Holmgren's early years. We ran probably worse then when it seemed all we had was Favre to Sharpe. But, like most rational/sane fans we had a sense that things were on the upswing. That this team was being built, that there was a plan. That is the same feeling that any normal, rational fan has now. Are we perfect, of course not. But, I watch this team and the moves TT has made and I can plainly see that TT has a philosophy and methodology..and as my mom and TT say, the proof is in the pudding. This team has shown constant growth.

Woody and Merlin, the time is now for you to gracefully acknowledge that TT has turned this team around in a much quicker time frame than anyone expected.

It is sad when tyrone has to tell you two to stop hitting the pipe.

Ding! Ding! Ding!
Another winning post!!!
Applause!!!!!

You like me, you really like me.

[mraynrand]

an entire revamp of the defensive line (except for Kampman,)

In case no one else corrected you, it should be noted that the starting D-line Jenkins (Sherman), Williams/Jolly (Sherman/Thompson), Kampman (Sherman), and Pickett (Thompson), as well as depth with KGB (Wolf, resigned by Sherman), Cole, Montgomery, Muir, and Harrell (all fourThompson).

So it's a stretch to give the revamped D-line credit all to Thompson. At least a good deal of it goes to Sherman and then also to the current coaching staff for making the switch to Jenkins at end on obvious run downs and KGB to a role as PRS.

[Joemailman]

Actually Mraynrand, Cole played in 3 games for the Packers in 2004, so you can credit. him to Sherman too.

[son of a vic]

an entire revamp of the defensive line (except for Kampman,)

In case no one else corrected you, it should be noted that the starting D-line Jenkins (Sherman), Williams/Jolly (Sherman/Thompson), Kampman (Sherman), and Pickett (Thompson), as well as depth with KGB (Wolf, resigned by Sherman), Cole, Montgomery, Muir, and Harrell (all fourThompson).

So it's a stretch to give the revamped D-line credit all to Thompson. At least a good deal of it goes to Sherman and then also to the current coaching staff for making the switch to Jenkins at end on obvious run downs and KGB to a role as PRS.

You got me, I was a bit overdramatic, I guess my point is that the defense as a whole, has better personel now, than it did when Thompson took over. Cetainly there is no disputing that fact.

[Scott Campbell]

Are we looking great at FB and TE? robert Lee has shown us more but is it enough for our offense?

Man, you are old. Robert Lee played for the South during the Civil War.

Donald Lee is the Packer TE.