Odd man out in secondary

[Harlan Huckleby]

There are 5 guys who play key roles in the secondary. Harris & Woodson obviously have two positions locked down. Just for the sake of discussion, if the goal is to get the 5 best players on the field, who would you sit?

By the time Collins comes back, we'll know more about Rouse.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I'd rather have a corner covering WRs than a S, so Bush has to be in the game for dime situations. Then, it's a matter of which two safeties. I'd trust Collins and Bigby more than Rouse at this point.

[gbpackfan]

You can't just put a safety in at CB. There is a reason they are S and a reason CBs are CBs. So Bush stays at the 3rd CB spot. I actually like the way he is playing. That pass int. call was complete BS. I don't know how the NFL expects CBs to cover WRs anymore. I really don't.

Rouse had a nice game on Sunday but it is too early to call him the starter. Let's see what happens in the next couple of weeks. I knew, and posted on this very site, that these past two weeks would be perfect for Rouse to get his feet wet. Now will see how he holds up against two teams that are very good at chucking the rock. Then, will know if he has taken Collins' job.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I'd rather have a corner covering WRs than a S, so Bush has to be in the game for dime situations.

Harvey, my hypothetical question was to not think this hard. Just vote out the weakest player. ( I know it is not totally realistic, they have to fit skills too.) But its one way to look at it.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I'd bet Collins and Bigby are both safe at this point. Collins moreso than Bigby. To me, Bigby and Rouse are both ideally SS. Rouse is big and pretty fast for his size, but Rouse is a 4.55-4.6 guy--while Collins is a 4.4 guy. I'm just hoping Rouse and Bigby can get through the next game or two without too many coverage breakdowns.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I think you might change your mind on Rouse. He may prove to be a good, ball-hawking free safety. He reminds me a little of Darren Sharper.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Harvey, my hypothetical question was to not think this hard. Just vote out the weakest player. ( I know it is not totally realistic, they have to fit skills too.) But its one way to look at it.

Then that's just silly. Why didn't you just run a poll asking which player is the worst of those four? Seems to me you are trying to run the poll to push this strange Bush or Collins should be benched for Rouse agenda. That way you can run with the "nobody will miss Collins" take you've had for the last couple of weeks. You'd make a good political pollster.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I think Bush has been solid as the nickel. Two bad games, but overall pretty good.

I think Collins has been solid as the SS. He's missed a few interceptions, but he covers better than the others (he's much faster), and tackles solidly.

I think Bigby has been solid as the FS. He gives up some plays (especially in coverage on TEs), but he also has a knack for causing fumbles and he hits hard.

I think Rouse has been solid the last two games, but he's missed about 5 tackles and faced Brooks Bollinger and Vinny Testaverde. The jury is still out on him, but the initial results are encouraging.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Christ.

Getting the best players on the field is a legitimate objective.

I can't even deal with your ridiculous accusations.

This place is very hostile to off-the-track thinking. Stifling.

[ND72]

I like Bush, but I think he's the bottom of the talent pool compared to the rest of the group. I think Collins has underachieved, but he's still young and is still growing. I think Rouse could potentially be better than Collins in the long run...but I donno. I still like Collins...

[Harlan Huckleby]

Then that's just silly. Why didn't you just run a poll asking which player is the worst of those four?

Fine. Just think of the question this way.

Are we here for conversation or to be bitches? I'm sick of the sniping.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Christ.

Getting the best players on the field is a legitimate objective.

I can't even deal with your ridiculous accusations.

This place is very hostile to off-the-track thinking. Stifling.

Spare me the persecution bit. How could one not think about position when doing this type of comparison? Bush is a corner. If we play 5 DBs, the 5th guy is going to be a corner. Maybe we can add Brady Poppinga to the poll--since position isn't considered.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Christ.

Getting the best players on the field is a legitimate objective.

I can't even deal with your ridiculous accusations.

This place is very hostile to off-the-track thinking. Stifling.

Spare me the persecution bit. How could one not think about position when doing this type of comparison? Bush is a corner. If we play 5 DBs, the 5th guy is going to be a corner. Maybe we can add Brady Poppinga to the poll--since position isn't considered.

fuck you with the persecution crap.

Poppinga obviously can't play in the secondary. It's not so obvious who can play in the safety/nickle positions.

[Scott Campbell]

This place is very hostile to off-the-track thinking. Stifling.

......I'll make it $200. Anyone?

[HarveyWallbangers]

Then that's just silly. Why didn't you just run a poll asking which player is the worst of those four?

Fine. Just think of the question this way.

At this point, I'd say Rouse.