Sean Taylor Shot

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Very common for thieves to hit the same joint multiple times.

And not steal anything? Just putz around with a bathroom A/C vent, rifle through files, and leave a table knife lying on the person's bed?

Sorry Ty...ain't buying the company line on this one. This doesn't smell one bit like a common robbery. These crooks had an agenda...they were looking for something particular or to harm Taylor specifically.

Are the facts in? No.

All I said was that it is common.

I don't speculate like yourself.

[The Leaper]

So apparently all crooks are the same?

Where did I suggest that? I'm merely pointing out that something about this doesn't make sense. It's not some "random" robbery.

You don't find it odd that guys broke into his house LAST WEEK when he wasn't around and didn't steal anything of consequence while using kitchen knifes to probe A/C vents? How many criminals do you know that break into a $900k home and just putz around in it for awhile before leaving without taking anything?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Very common for thieves to hit the same joint multiple times.

And not steal anything? Just putz around with a bathroom A/C vent, rifle through files, and leave a table knife lying on the person's bed?

Sorry Ty...ain't buying the company line on this one. This doesn't smell one bit like a common robbery. These crooks had an agenda...they were looking for something particular or to harm Taylor specifically.

So apparently all crooks are the same?
Look there are some pretty f'ed up people in miami. My school is in palmetto bay, and it is a nice neghborhood. If it is a 900,000 dollar house, there is a decent chance its not gated, especially since not many are in that area.
And one thing to think about is if he had the machette and the guy opened the door, what the hell do you think hes ganna do...

just this weekend my friends dad was stabbed while closing up his restraunt

Thanx Charles.

I lived in Florida for over 10 years. Many of these folks don't know anything about FLORIDA gated communities and how secure they are (not very).

Nor have they experienced the type of criminals that run down there.

[The Leaper]

Are the facts in? No.

All I said was that it is common.

I don't speculate like yourself.

It is common for thieves to break into an empty house and not take anything?

I'm not speculating. I'm pointing out that something doesn't add up. This wasn't some random robbery. Taylor was a target...either for something particular he owned or personally for some reason.

[The Leaper]

Nor have they experienced the type of criminals that run down there.

I thought it was all common. I guess Florida criminals are some kind of special variety.

My parents live in Florida...a gated community, in fact. I am quite familar with the concept as it pertains to Florida. I assumed Taylor would have a more exclusive crib, but it seems that he does not.

[FritzDontBlitz]

There have been incidents similar to this happening to professional athletes from the Chicago area. It would appear - and I admit I am guessing based on what I perceive as a pattern - that there are criminals specifically targeting professional athletes form the Chicago area, or with residences in the area, because of their perceived wealth and the likelihood they will be away from their residence for extended periods of time. Antoine Walker is one such athlete from Chicago this has happened to. The stories do not make big headlines but the number of athletes involved seems to be growing.

I will guess that it is occuring more frequently in other large metropolitan areas - like Miami - as well.

[Charles Woodson]

So apparently all crooks are the same?

Where did I suggest that? I'm merely pointing out that something about this doesn't make sense. It's not some "random" robbery.

You don't find it odd that guys broke into his house LAST WEEK when he wasn't around and didn't steal anything of consequence while using kitchen knifes to probe A/C vents? How many criminals do you know that break into a $900k home and just putz around in it for awhile before leaving without taking anything?

According to police records, someone also broke into Taylor's house between 7 p.m. on Saturday, Nov. 17 and midnight Sunday Nov. 18, by prying open a front window. No one was home at the time. The burglar entered several rooms in the house, rifled through drawers, and a safe in Taylor's bedroom. The police report says it was ''unknown'' whether anything was taken.

btw it is unkown wheter they took anything...
Anyways, didnt he have some incident last year where he shot someone over an atv or something...

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Nor have they experienced the type of criminals that run down there.

I thought it was all common. I guess Florida criminals are some kind of special variety.

My parents live in Florida...a gated community, in fact. I am quite familar with the concept as it pertains to Florida. I assumed Taylor would have a more exclusive crib, but it seems that he does not.

Do they live in the Miami area? Doubtful.

You live in Columbus..that is worlds away from South Florida and the mentality they have down there.

Assume: Yes, you do a lot of that. Might be time to change that behavior.

Besides assuming I don't know if you read well or actually read the stories at all. Everyone that i have read have CLEARLY stated that the police don't know if anything was stolen during the first breakin.

Anyone reading the story and seeing 900k and 4 bedroom realizes that it is hardly a McMansion. That is a pretty modest home. Prolly less than 5000 square feet.

And, just because you have an alarm, doesn't mean it is activated..as is the case this time. Many folks only activate them when they aren't at home.

Finally, you have cast doubt and aspersions regarding his history and his character. While he may not be perfect, it should be noted that his father is a CHIEF OF POLICE. I think that some of that prolly rubbed off on his son.

Lastly, this is the HOLIDAY season...which means that it is also CRIME season. Something that I, and the rest of us in our little business park know and had reaffirmed this morning as our neighbors were hit and had flat screens, monitors, etc. stolen.

The fact remains that you nor i know anything about the first breakin and why the burglars left. Were they surprised, what were they looking for (checks, id, etc.), nor do we even know if the burglars knew it was his house.

And, yes, criminals are different in florida. Florida, as Colin Cowherd and others will tell you, it is the wackiest state. Tune in the news and you'll quickly see that it isn't like any other place. From desperadoes in miami to pedophiles in daytona beach.

[Charles Woodson]

Nor have they experienced the type of criminals that run down there.

I thought it was all common. I guess Florida criminals are some kind of special variety.

My parents live in Florida...a gated community, in fact. I am quite familar with the concept as it pertains to Florida. I assumed Taylor would have a more exclusive crib, but it seems that he does not.

Do they live in the Miami area? Doubtful.

You live in Columbus..that is worlds away from South Florida and the mentality they have down there.

Assume: Yes, you do a lot of that. Might be time to change that behavior.

Besides assuming I don't know if you read well or actually read the stories at all. Everyone that i have read have CLEARLY stated that the police don't know if anything was stolen during the first breakin.

Anyone reading the story and seeing 900k and 4 bedroom realizes that it is hardly a McMansion. That is a pretty modest home. Prolly less than 5000 square feet.

And, just because you have an alarm, doesn't mean it is activated..as is the case this time. Many folks only activate them when they aren't at home.

Finally, you have cast doubt and aspersions regarding his history and his character. While he may not be perfect, it should be noted that his father is a CHIEF OF POLICE. I think that some of that prolly rubbed off on his son.

Lastly, this is the HOLIDAY season...which means that it is also CRIME season. Something that I, and the rest of us in our little business park know and had reaffirmed this morning as our neighbors were hit and had flat screens, monitors, etc. stolen.

The fact remains that you nor i know anything about the first breakin and why the burglars left. Were they surprised, what were they looking for (checks, id, etc.), nor do we even know if the burglars knew it was his house.

And, yes, criminals are different in florida. Florida, as Colin Cowherd and others will tell you, it is the wackiest state. Tune in the news and you'll quickly see that it isn't like any other place. From desperadoes in miami to pedophiles in daytona beach.

Dont know if the news go up to anyone north,
but its probly close to a month ago some guy was robbing some houses when the cops showed up and started firing an AK-47 killing 2 cops
And thats what i was trying to say about taylors house...
My dad owns a real estate company down here and so i know a bit about it... A 900,000 dollar home in palmetto bay isnt crazily nice. For miami. A nice house in miami is in the high 1 to anything above. So chances are that the crook might not have known...
Like Ty said, none of us know what really happened and were all just speculating right now

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Nor have they experienced the type of criminals that run down there.

I thought it was all common. I guess Florida criminals are some kind of special variety.

My parents live in Florida...a gated community, in fact. I am quite familar with the concept as it pertains to Florida. I assumed Taylor would have a more exclusive crib, but it seems that he does not.

Do they live in the Miami area? Doubtful.

You live in Columbus..that is worlds away from South Florida and the mentality they have down there.

Assume: Yes, you do a lot of that. Might be time to change that behavior.

Besides assuming I don't know if you read well or actually read the stories at all. Everyone that i have read have CLEARLY stated that the police don't know if anything was stolen during the first breakin.

Anyone reading the story and seeing 900k and 4 bedroom realizes that it is hardly a McMansion. That is a pretty modest home. Prolly less than 5000 square feet.

And, just because you have an alarm, doesn't mean it is activated..as is the case this time. Many folks only activate them when they aren't at home.

Finally, you have cast doubt and aspersions regarding his history and his character. While he may not be perfect, it should be noted that his father is a CHIEF OF POLICE. I think that some of that prolly rubbed off on his son.

Lastly, this is the HOLIDAY season...which means that it is also CRIME season. Something that I, and the rest of us in our little business park know and had reaffirmed this morning as our neighbors were hit and had flat screens, monitors, etc. stolen.

The fact remains that you nor i know anything about the first breakin and why the burglars left. Were they surprised, what were they looking for (checks, id, etc.), nor do we even know if the burglars knew it was his house.

And, yes, criminals are different in florida. Florida, as Colin Cowherd and others will tell you, it is the wackiest state. Tune in the news and you'll quickly see that it isn't like any other place. From desperadoes in miami to pedophiles in daytona beach.

Dont know if the news go up to anyone north,
but its probly close to a month ago some guy was robbing some houses when the cops showed up and started firing an AK-47 killing 2 cops
And thats what i was trying to say about taylors house...
My dad owns a real estate company down here and so i know a bit about it... A 900,000 dollar home in palmetto bay isnt crazily nice. For miami. A nice house in miami is in the high 1 to anything above. So chances are that the crook might not have known...
Like Ty said, none of us know what really happened and were all just speculating right now

Exactly. 900k house doesn't put you on MTV cribs or anything like that.

Solid house with some nice amenenities, but no great media room, awesome pool area (tricked out with waterfalls, etc.), no amazing tile, etc.

No, that story of the AK didn't make it out to AZ, but nothing in Florida surprises me.

[FritzDontBlitz]

I can attest to that. The housing market is very different in Miami. What goes for $500,00 here is probably close to $1 million or more there.

[FritzDontBlitz]

A few links to follow. Like I said before, this seems to be a growing trend. I didn't realize Walker had been robbed this summer:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2932161

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2952813

http://media.www.dailyillini.com/media/storage/paper736/news/2007/07/31/Sports/Police.Look.For.Link.In.Nba.Robberies.Near.Chicago-2928282-page2.shtml

[packers11]

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POSTED 6:15 p.m. EST, November 26, 2007

GRAVE SITUATION FOR TAYLOR by Michael David Smith

Redskins safety Sean Taylor remains in the intensive care unit at Miami's Jackson Memorial Hospital, about 16 hours after he was shot in his Miami home.

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reported that at two different points during the six hours of surgery Taylor had this morning, he flat lined.

Schefter also reports that Redskins running back Clinton Portis and Vice President of Football Operations Vinny Cerrato were among the members of the organization who flew to Miami with Redskins owner Daniel Snyder.

Redskins coach Joe Gibbs has said he plans to stay in Washington with the team as it prepares for Sunday's game against the Buffalo Bills.

[Charles Woodson]

A few links to follow. Like I said before, this seems to be a growing trend. I didn't realize Walker had been robbed this summer:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2932161

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2952813

http://media.www.dailyillini.com/med...82-page2.shtml

I remember the walker incident now, and he was robbed at gunpoint at his 4.1 million dollar home.......

[green_bowl_packer]

A few links to follow. Like I said before, this seems to be a growing trend. I didn't realize Walker had been robbed this summer:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2932161

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2952813

http://media.www.dailyillini.com/med...82-page2.shtml

I remember the walker incident now, and he was robbed at gunpoint at his 4.1 million dollar home.......

Their were two incidents of this nature down here in Chicago this past summer weeks apart Antoine Walker of the Minnesota Timberwolves and Eddie Curry of the New York Knick's who were both Chicago prep basketball stars who live here locally. Antoine Walker lived in a secure building downtown with a doorman security and everything and they still got in. Eddie Curry lived in a gated community in Burr Ridge where alot of the Bulls and White Sox live. One of these two guys not sure which was duct taped to a chair as they ratted through his house (didn't read those links so this is by memory). I think in the end it turned out the guys who did it knew them, if not the same crew in both cases.