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  • #46
    Brett does do stupid things witht he ball, everyone who watches football realizes this but he also does some real good things with the ball. You don't get the pic record by being smart with the ball.
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    • #47
      Originally posted by b bulldog
      Brett does do stupid things witht he ball, everyone who watches football realizes this but he also does some real good things with the ball. You don't get the pic record by being smart with the ball.
      haha, good point. His best years (the SB years and this year) he was safe with the ball.
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      • #48
        Even if the gameplan is to test a team deep, it by no way mean you throw it into triple coverage. brett's injury allowed him out of one of his 3-5 interception games but hopefully that will be his last bad game of the year. He has played well this point so I'm not going to go nuts over last night. If he does this in the playoffs again, that is another story.
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        • #49
          Originally posted by b bulldog
          Even if the gameplan is to test a team deep, it by no way mean you throw it into triple coverage. brett's injury allowed him out of one of his 3-5 interception games but hopefully that will be his last bad game of the year. He has played well this point so I'm not going to go nuts over last night. If he does this in the playoffs again, that is another story.
          That's exactly where I stand. I've been very happy with his play this year and I execpt it to continue. I am waiting and seeing in the playoffs htough. He's been nothing short of horrible over the last 10 years in teh playoffs. I want him to show he is able to win the big game, even if it is just one playoff game.
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          • #50
            An 8.9 passer rating is not going to win you too many games....
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            • #51
              Uh Oh. Shadow has arrived. . . . It's about to blow up

              No, Bretts had a great year. He just laid an egg and with the way the playoff games have gone recently, the bad memories are hard to erase.

              I'm not condemning Favre at all. I'm just really disappointed the way he handled the pressure of that big game. He was just not himself.
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              • #52
                I think as the game goes on Favre gets better... I remember the Giants/KC game the packers were off to such a slow start...

                He came back in the 2nd half to throw 2-3 td's to seal the win...

                I remember clearly in the KC game when he threw 2 int's in the first half I was so pissed off, but then they made half time adjustments and he came out just torching their secondary...

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                  I'm just really disappointed the way he handled the pressure of that big game. He was just not himself.
                  Unfortunately, if you look at past Texas Stadium games, he was exactly himself. He has these stinker games, especially when the team as a whole is getting man-handled. He tries to turn things around with risky throws.

                  Maybe the real culprit for the first-half fiasco was the offensive coordinator. Should have stuck with short passes until they got the pass rush figured out.

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                  • #54
                    Brett sometimes comes out of the tunnel and is committed to just flingin the damn thing all over the place.

                    Hasn't done it much during McCarthy's time here, but he used to do it all the time during Sherman's tenure. I love Favre, but if it's early in the game, and he's just chuckin around the field w/o regard for the game plan, or what the defense is willing to give - then just bench him for a series. If that doesn't work, bench him for the rest of the game.

                    As for the defense? That had to be one of the dumbest gameplans I've ever seen... Don't even know where to begin. Sanders and his staff were completely outcoached.
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by wist43
                      Brett sometimes comes out of the tunnel and is committed to just flingin the damn thing all over the place.

                      Hasn't done it much during McCarthy's time here, but he used to do it all the time during Sherman's tenure. I love Favre, but if it's early in the game, and he's just chuckin around the field w/o regard for the game plan, or what the defense is willing to give - then just bench him for a series. If that doesn't work, bench him for the rest of the game.

                      As for the defense? That had to be one of the dumbest gameplans I've ever seen... Don't even know where to begin. Sanders and his staff were completely outcoached.
                      Agreed. Was very evident when AJ was running down the field covering TO.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Partial
                        Originally posted by wist43
                        As for the defense? That had to be one of the dumbest gameplans I've ever seen... Don't even know where to begin. Sanders and his staff were completely outcoached.
                        Agreed. Was very evident when AJ was running down the field covering TO.
                        Yeah, it was painful to watch. I think our safeties were outclassed, though. Al Harris, and I have a man-crush on him, was aweful. Plain aweful.

                        Al should have smashed TO in the mouth on the first play. I bet, if by the Grace of God, we make the NFC title game, he does exactly that next time around.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Tarlam!
                          Originally posted by Partial
                          Originally posted by wist43
                          As for the defense? That had to be one of the dumbest gameplans I've ever seen... Don't even know where to begin. Sanders and his staff were completely outcoached.
                          Agreed. Was very evident when AJ was running down the field covering TO.
                          Yeah, it was painful to watch. I think our safeties were outclassed, though. Al Harris, and I have a man-crush on him, was aweful. Plain aweful.

                          Al should have smashed TO in the mouth on the first play. I bet, if by the Grace of God, we make the NFC title game, he does exactly that next time around.

                          Our safeties were just lost; Bigby is a great hitter but just isn't a cover guy yet. Collins has the talent; just not there yet
                          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                          • #58
                            Defending a WR like TO, or Moss, or CJ isn't all that complicated. Where it gets dicey is in the execution - AND, the degree to which the other team is able to hurt you with their other weapons.

                            That said, defending any one of those three when you're playing their teams has to be priority #1 when fleshing out your game plan.

                            And, as I said, that part of your game plan shouldn't be all that complicated, i.e. Harris clued to him on every play, with safety awareness over the top. If they show that they're going to try to scrub Harris off out certain formations, and put TO in motion in attempts to free him up either from Harris off the line, or the Saftey on the second level, then simply make the proper adjustment to what their doing with formations and movement, keep TO bottled up underneath, and go from there.

                            Crayton had two TD's, that doesn't bother me. I think the front 6 can keep Barber bottled up fairly consistently. Witten is a little bit more of a problem - Bigby gotten taken to task.

                            Any way you slice it Dallas is going to move the ball, and they're going to score some pts... but their defense can be had, so if you can limit them to a few FG attempt's instead of TD's and force a few more punts you've got a chance.

                            Dallas is very beatable, and I do believe our defense is better than theirs. We were very banged up, and Sanders laid a monstrous egg with that debacle of a gameplan he came up with. If they can get healthy and learn from their mistakes, I'd like our chances in a rematch.
                            wist

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by wist43
                              As for the defense? That had to be one of the dumbest gameplans I've ever seen... Don't even know where to begin. Sanders and his staff were completely outcoached.
                              How do you coach around wall-like pass protection? Followed by a secondary that has never played together? How do you scheme around Jarrett Bush?

                              Actually, you might be correct that they could have done things better. But packers played shorthanded (woodson, KGB, Rouse, Jolly, Cole ) against a superior team. No defensive coordinator is gonna look brilliant.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                                Originally posted by wist43
                                As for the defense? That had to be one of the dumbest gameplans I've ever seen... Don't even know where to begin. Sanders and his staff were completely outcoached.
                                How do you coach around wall-like pass protection? Followed by a secondary that has never played together? How do you scheme around Jarrett Bush?

                                Actually, you might be correct that they could have done things better. But packers played shorthanded (woodson, KGB, Rouse, Jolly, Cole ) against a superior team. No defensive coordinator is gonna look brilliant.
                                I agree, HH. Maybe they should have brought some pressure in the 3rd quarter when it was abundantly clear that the front 4 was just not going to get there. I probably would have brought Poppinga on Kamps side, forcing them to take Kamp with one guy. It's tough though. It's always easy to act like we were smarter after the fact. I agree with you that they were more overmatched than overcoached but I'm sure there is some combination of the two that is the true answer.
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