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  • Originally posted by b bulldog
    Sharper has had a good year, I'm fine with him going.
    Didn't Sharper have a better year last year or the year before? His stats are worse then Bigby's this year (less passes defended, less tackles, same # of ints).
    "Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
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    • Originally posted by b bulldog
      Dead on 100% correct, I liked him also so I was dead wrong on that pick. I also wasn't real crazy about Ngata and he has also done very well.
      Ngata has been a monster this year. the fact that he has been the only Raven on the defensive line to stay healthy is also another valid point for.

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      • Great point, it seems as though every time you see the Vikings highlights you see 42 getting a pic. The Cowboys game did really hurt what people think about Atari. It seems as though when the team is on national TV, he has a meltdown.
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        • bulldog, Hawk is a really good player. I don't care what happens with the rest of the draft. We have a guy who will be locked in at WLB for 10 years and we will never have to worry about anything less than really good play (with a couple probowls likely sprinkled in).
          Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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          • Mine is opinion and so is yours. we will see how it all pans out but when the draft was being talked about, I was told numerous times that Hawk was the most NFL ready and that he was the best Dplayer in the draft. I guess that was total BS but it is still early and much can change.
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            • Hawk doesn't hvae to be Ray Lewis. If he's another Nick Barnett, we are lucky to have two LB's that are better than many teams best linebacker.
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              • Originally posted by b bulldog
                Hey Harv, I'll start looking for the Hawk snubbed articles Talk about dumb
                The point is that one guy says he's snubbed, and that's supposed to prove your opinion? That's dumb.

                How about the following from Scouts, Inc.? (Notice Hawk and Sims were both on it. Also note that Hawk was named an alternate to the Pro Bowl team, so it's not like he didn't have any support).

                Outside Linebackers

                DeMarcus Ware, Dallas
                Julian Peterson, Seattle
                Lance Briggs, Chicago

                Snubs

                Karlos Dansby,Arizona
                Michael Boley, Atlanta
                AJ Hawk, Green Bay
                Ernie Sims, Detroit

                Ware very well could end up as the Defensive Player of the Year. Peterson can do everything well, while Briggs is once again among the league leaders in tackles. The snubs are also young and have very bright futures. Dansby will make many Pro Bowls in the years to come and Boley is possibly being the best player you have never heard of. Sims is a tackling machine on a poor defense and Hawk is right on schedule to becoming a great one.
                "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                • Nice sentiment by Driver. That would be cool. They both could say they are Pro Bowl players this year then.


                  If Driver does go, it would be cool if Favre went with him.



                  “I would love for him to be over there,” Driver said. “It’s sad that I’m the only one going out of that receiving group.”

                  ...

                  It’s the ninth time that Favre has been picked, but the first since 2003. He didn’t participate the last three times he was selected.

                  “You know how he gets,” Driver said. “He may go. He may not. I would love to see him go over with me.”
                  "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                  • Originally posted by b bulldog
                    Leinart is even worse, he was scared silley by the Steelers D.
                    You are confusing being hung over for scared.

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                    • Honestly, why do we have to go through this same shit with Hawk and Sims every week?

                      Hawk plays on a much better defense, he has better players around him, he plays a lot more coverage. He needs to improve his blitzing, but he has really turned it on in the 2nd half.

                      Sims plays on a terrible defense, they give up the most points in the NFL. He hits harder than Hawk, but from what I've seen isn't asked to play much man coverage, and when I have seen it it hasn't been pretty. He has shitty players around him so of course he will shine more.

                      Our D is more structured than Detroit's. Sims is allowed to be more of a freelancer. If he jumps out of his gap it's not as noticeable because their defense sucks anyways. I think Hawk does a great job of taking care of HIS responsibilities in our scheme. Maybe Sims would thrive in our rigid defense. Maybe Hawk would excel being able to run around more and just play off his pure football instincts. No one knows.

                      Give it up already.
                      Go PACK

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                      • Originally posted by Bossman641
                        Honestly, why do we have to go through this same shit with Hawk and Sims every week?

                        Hawk plays on a much better defense, he has better players around him, he plays a lot more coverage. He needs to improve his blitzing, but he has really turned it on in the 2nd half.

                        Sims plays on a terrible defense, they give up the most points in the NFL. He hits harder than Hawk, but from what I've seen isn't asked to play much man coverage, and when I have seen it it hasn't been pretty. He has shitty players around him so of course he will shine more.

                        Our D is more structured than Detroit's. Sims is allowed to be more of a freelancer. If he jumps out of his gap it's not as noticeable because their defense sucks anyways. I think Hawk does a great job of taking care of HIS responsibilities in our scheme. Maybe Sims would thrive in our rigid defense. Maybe Hawk would excel being able to run around more and just play off his pure football instincts. No one knows.

                        Give it up already.

                        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                        • Harris is a good player, Woodson is a great one. I really have to scratch my head on this one. Maybe Woodson had some down years before leaving Oakland, so people assume he is not at top of his game in GB

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                          • Originally posted by b bulldog
                            Alex Marvez, Fox Sports.com,"Who should have made the Probowl"
                            Not only do I like Hawk as much or more than Sims, I like Barnett even more. To me, he has had a much better season than Sims, and this guy named Sims as his biggest NFC snub at LB. Not respecting his opinion on this one.

                            I also think E.J. Henderson has had a better year than Sims (although I think the Vikes got more than they should have, so I won't feel bad for them). Barnett and Willis (and he could have waited) should be the NFC's ILBs--while Henderson, Lofa Tatupu, and Barrett Ruud should have been the alternates (in that order).
                            "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                            • On the positive side: Woodson has been picked as the biggest snub by many, Barnett has made most snubbed lists, and Clifton has made some. Surprisingly, some people have picked Mason Crosby as a snub also. There's still one coach's pick to go and there will be some injuries. Clifton, Barnett, and Woodson are first alternates, so they have a decent chance at going when all is said and done.
                              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                              • Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                                On the positive side: Woodson has been picked as the biggest snub by many, Barnett has made most snubbed lists, and Clifton has made some. Surprisingly, some people have picked Mason Crosby as a snub also. There's still one coach's pick to go and there will be some injuries. Clifton, Barnett, and Woodson are first alternates, so they have a decent chance at going when all is said and done.
                                I saw Chris Samuels from the skins made it. I thought he was on IR though? I think Clifton would then get the nod.
                                Draft Brandin Cooks WR OSU!

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