Interracial Relationship/Marriage: Are you for or against it

[PackFan#1]

And you don't see how comparing tex to this is inflammatory bullshit....honestly??

Well, they are right-wing inflammatory bs, so yes, they compare to tex's right-wing inflammatory bs (but Vinyard's are more eloquent, as Tyrone said).

[bobblehead]

And you don't see how comparing tex to this is inflammatory bullshit....honestly??

Well, they are right-wing inflammatory bs, so yes, they compare to tex's right-wing inflammatory bs (but Vinyard's are more eloquent, as Tyrone said).

Not sure how many times I have to say this....derek vinyard is not rightwing any more than stalin is leftwing, anymore than the unabomber is leftwing, anymore than pot pol was leftwing. Rascist is not a political position, obviously I can't convince you of this, so I might as well quit trying.

[PackFan#1]

Not sure how many times I have to say this....derek vinyard is not rightwing any more than stalin is leftwing, anymore than the unabomber is leftwing, anymore than pot pol was leftwing. Rascist is not a political position, obviously I can't convince you of this, so I might as well quit trying.

Actually, Vinyard falls into the category of ultra rightwing. Stalin, ultra leftwing. Extremists exist at both ends of the political spectrum. The difference is that those at the far left seek a utopia. Those at the far right seek...well, what Hitler sought.

[bobblehead]

Not sure how many times I have to say this....derek vinyard is not rightwing any more than stalin is leftwing, anymore than the unabomber is leftwing, anymore than pot pol was leftwing. Rascist is not a political position, obviously I can't convince you of this, so I might as well quit trying.

Actually, Vinyard falls into the category of ultra rightwing. Stalin, ultra leftwing. There are extremes in the political spectrum.

Ok, so "rightys" are rascist who kill a few, "lefties" are despots who kill millions...got ya...I still reject it outta hand. These people are pigs, and defining a political position to them isn't fair to anyone. Just cuz the media and others have tried to do it for years doesn't make it so.

[PackFan#1]

Ok, so "rightys" are rascist who kill a few, "lefties" are despots who kill millions...got ya...I still reject it outta hand. These people are pigs, and defining a political position to them isn't fair to anyone. Just cuz the media and others have tried to do it for years doesn't make it so.

Actually modern ultra lefties, such as the hippies, are for peace, love and happiness. Ultra righties base their agendas on terrorism (examples: Al Qaeda, kkk).

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Ok, so "rightys" are rascist who kill a few, "lefties" are despots who kill millions...got ya...I still reject it outta hand. These people are pigs, and defining a political position to them isn't fair to anyone. Just cuz the media and others have tried to do it for years doesn't make it so.

Actually modern ultra lefties, such as the hippies, are for peace, love and happiness. Ultra righties base their agendas on terrorism (examples: Al Qaeda, kkk).

That is such stereotypical bullshit.

[Harlan Huckleby]

And I say he is a pig because everything derek vinyard said, byrd said worse in his day. And can't you see how saying he could have left the democrats and joined the republicans is inflamatory bullshit....honestly??

You say he is a pig because it makes you feel good. There is no evidence that he stands by his KKK days, why assume the worst?

And it is not bullshit to say that Southern racists left the Democratic Party in droves and were welcomed into the Republican Party in the 1970's. This is historical FACT. What is bullshit is your inability to face uncomfortable realities. Honest conservatives such as Newt Gingrich speak openly about the wrong judgement of many conservatives from this period.

Byrd's decision to stay with the Democrats in that era, in the south, shows character.

[3irty1]

Ok, so "rightys" are rascist who kill a few, "lefties" are despots who kill millions...got ya...I still reject it outta hand. These people are pigs, and defining a political position to them isn't fair to anyone. Just cuz the media and others have tried to do it for years doesn't make it so.

Actually modern ultra lefties, such as the hippies, are for peace, love and happiness. Ultra righties base their agendas on terrorism (examples: Al Qaeda, kkk).

That is such stereotypical bullshit.

Yeah that's really dumb.

[PackFan#1]

That is such stereotypical bullshit.

Not stereotypes. Truth. Those at the far left seek a utopia, a Marxist society (nothing like the totalitarian communism of Lenin and Stalin). Those at the far right seek a society composed of a sole race or religion. The kkk committed acts of terror in the past. Al qaeda is committing terror today.

[mraynrand]

How did this thread take such a direction? The answer is simple. Most of you guys, if Halle Berry walked through the door, would favor interracial marriage/relationships. For me, if Diane Lane walks through my door, I'm not complaining.

[Iron Mike]

I'm still waiting to hear the supposed difference between "racism" and "prejudice". I get the impression that some are calling racism hate of other races, while prejudice is feeling superior to other races. Going with those definitions, liberals lose out on both counts.

Pretty much the only real HATERS left are liberals--your Jeremiah Wright types. Granted, they are probably a minority even among blacks, and they probably don't have many followers among whites (although that Father Pflaggert certainly was one). However, the only remnant of that on the white side is the all out real thing KKK types--which would probably be much fewer in number than the Wright type black racists. And of course, the biggest name Klansman on the scene is in fact, a liberal Democrat--Robert Byrd.

As for "prejudice", THIS is the area where the blatant hypocrisy of Democrats/liberals/either or both comes into play. WHAT COULD BE A MORE SICK MANIFESTATION OF RACIAL PREJUDICE/IMPLIED FEELING OF SUPERIORITY, etc. THAN PICTURING MINORITIES--BLACK AND OTHERWISE--AS BEING INCAPABLE OF COMPETING IN THE SYSTEM WITHOUT THEIR LIBERAL DEMOCRAT PROGRAMS--AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, SOCIAL WELFARE, etc.? That is indeed what liberals are all about. I'd be interested to hear any of them deny it--or to claim their attitude is somehow NOT blatant racial prejudice.

Conservatives/Republicans, on the other hand, believe in what Martin Luther King preached--a level playing field, treating everyone equally, etc. Do black people somehow enjoy having the government reaching into their wallet and grabbing their money as taxes? Do black people somehow enjoy having intrusive government get in their business and make their lives more complicated? Are black people less patriotic/opposed to America being the dominant country in the world? Are black people more likely to favor the gay agenda and abortion and all the other sick liberal positions on moral issues? NOT THE BLACK PEOPLE I KNOW!

The black people I know are just like everybody else--good normal America-loving Americans who like hanging on to more of their own money, who for the most part, may even be a little bit MORE moral than many white people, and who really DON'T think they need government prgrams that assume they need to be carried along and given help. And you can say the same for Hispanics and pretty much any other minorities that liberals want to include in their elitist and PREJUDICIAL programs. .

Tex, you sound like Derek Vinyard before he went to prison. There's a scene in American History X where Vinyard makes a rant similar to what you wrote above.

Sounds like Derek Vinyard to you--sounds like Larry Elder to me:

http://www.larryelder.com/

[Iron Mike]

I'm against stupid people breeding regardless of race. And you won't get any votes cuz no one will go on the record saying they are a bigot.

Here's your stupid people:



And they just happen to be black. Am I a bigot?

[bobblehead]

I'm against stupid people breeding regardless of race. And you won't get any votes cuz no one will go on the record saying they are a bigot.

Here's your stupid people:



And they just happen to be black. Am I a bigot?

According to me, no, according to #1packfan, yes.

[bobblehead]

And I say he is a pig because everything derek vinyard said, byrd said worse in his day. And can't you see how saying he could have left the democrats and joined the republicans is inflamatory bullshit....honestly??

You say he is a pig because it makes you feel good. There is no evidence that he stands by his KKK days, why assume the worst?

And it is not bullshit to say that Southern racists left the Democratic Party in droves and were welcomed into the Republican Party in the 1970's. This is historical FACT. What is bullshit is your inability to face uncomfortable realities. Honest conservatives such as Newt Gingrich speak openly about the wrong judgement of many conservatives from this period.

Byrd's decision to stay with the Democrats in that era, in the south, shows character.

I say he is a pig because he terrorized blacks of his era. I say he is a pig because of the things he stood for. I reject his change of heart because such a dramatic change stretches my imagination.

Your talking about my hero in newt. He never said that liberals didn't have wrong judgement too. He is also trying to concede a pacifying point to further the healing and future. He has done the same thing in the global warming debate. He basically says "ok, if I concede your point can we have an honest discussion about how to work our way past fossil fuels without crippling our economy and way of life right now."

I refuse to concede such a point in this case because people like #1packfan will jump up and down while pointing and screaming rascist everytime I espouse a conservative arguement. You don't, if all liberals were like you I would probably say "Ok, all the rascists in the past were conservative, can we move on please (insert exasperated voice)" but they aren't all like you. Some will try to inject hatred, rascism, and class warfare into every debate and muddy the waters with those accusations.

Tex makes several points in his post, pack says he sounds like derek vinyard. Nice way of moving the debate forward.

One last point..yes southern rascists left the democratic party, not conservatives...and how they were "welcomed" into the republican party is a whole nother issue. The republican party voted 80% for civil rights, so I doubt they were welcomed on their rascist platform...but they were welcomed in the sense of we need more votes in congress.

[texaspackerbacker]

texaspackerbacker wrote:
I'm still waiting to hear the supposed difference between "racism" and "prejudice". I get the impression that some are calling racism hate of other races, while prejudice is feeling superior to other races. Going with those definitions, liberals lose out on both counts.

Pretty much the only real HATERS left are liberals--your Jeremiah Wright types. Granted, they are probably a minority even among blacks, and they probably don't have many followers among whites (although that Father Pflaggert certainly was one). However, the only remnant of that on the white side is the all out real thing KKK types--which would probably be much fewer in number than the Wright type black racists. And of course, the biggest name Klansman on the scene is in fact, a liberal Democrat--Robert Byrd.

As for "prejudice", THIS is the area where the blatant hypocrisy of Democrats/liberals/either or both comes into play. WHAT COULD BE A MORE SICK MANIFESTATION OF RACIAL PREJUDICE/IMPLIED FEELING OF SUPERIORITY, etc. THAN PICTURING MINORITIES--BLACK AND OTHERWISE--AS BEING INCAPABLE OF COMPETING IN THE SYSTEM WITHOUT THEIR LIBERAL DEMOCRAT PROGRAMS--AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, SOCIAL WELFARE, etc.? That is indeed what liberals are all about. I'd be interested to hear any of them deny it--or to claim their attitude is somehow NOT blatant racial prejudice.

Conservatives/Republicans, on the other hand, believe in what Martin Luther King preached--a level playing field, treating everyone equally, etc. Do black people somehow enjoy having the government reaching into their wallet and grabbing their money as taxes? Do black people somehow enjoy having intrusive government get in their business and make their lives more complicated? Are black people less patriotic/opposed to America being the dominant country in the world? Are black people more likely to favor the gay agenda and abortion and all the other sick liberal positions on moral issues? NOT THE BLACK PEOPLE I KNOW!

The black people I know are just like everybody else--good normal America-loving Americans who like hanging on to more of their own money, who for the most part, may even be a little bit MORE moral than many white people, and who really DON'T think they need government prgrams that assume they need to be carried along and given help. And you can say the same for Hispanics and pretty much any other minorities that liberals want to include in their elitist and PREJUDICIAL programs.

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These imbeciles of the left keep bringing up Vinyard or Elder--whoever the hell either one of them are I don't know and don't care.

The point is, same ol' same ol'--The incompetent assholes of the left in this forum have yet to respond to WHY and HOW leftists are not the TRUE MODERN RACISTS--based on their aforementioned policies, positions, and programs designed to put blacks down, keep blacks down, and disenfranchise blacks by taking their votes for granted and disrepecting their opinions.

In addition to that, for an ALL WORLD IDIOT like Tyrone to PRETEND to be black when he isn't, I'd say that's a high degree of racism too.