Why Obama is a lock to win the election

[Harlan Huckleby]

Re: Why Obama is a lock to win the election

I see this politics thread has brought out the love in the forum. That's my mission, to spread peace and love.

The only stories that I saw this spring about Republican cross-over to Obama, (and they were "endless, I agree) were from the open primary states, with Republicans figuring Obama would be more beatable in the general election than Clinton would be so they voted for Obama.

I never heard a single story about Republicans thinking OBama was more beatable, perhaps that was early in the campaign. After Super Tuesday, when Obama inched ahead, and especially later, most of the story was about Republicans voting Clinton to drag-out the race - Limbaugh's "operation chaos."

What I refer to are the stories about the "Obamacans." I heard many interviews with people saying they are voting Dem for the first time in their life because of Obama, many radio callers put-through on NPR with this view. I agree there may not be many such people, but the media has promoted them with an aura of respectful wonder.

I contrast this with the many stories of Democrats pledging to vote for McCain. These people are characterized either as 1) white male racists in pickup trucks, or 2) shrieking menopausal women in need of psychiatric attention.

[Harlan Huckleby]

2) is just crap

So you have failed to notice the positive spin and protection Obama gets in the media?

Oh that's right, you are exclusively a Fox News , Rush Limbaugh, and "Cracker Today" guy.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Of course, anything can happen. Really though, I don't think this election is about McCain. It's about Obama. Americans will either embrace Obama or reject him. If they reject him, McCain will be the President, albeit probably not a very popular one.

I agree the election is about Obama, and it's his to lose. I think you underestimate McCain. And the most devisive issue on the table - Iraq - is resolving.

[Patler]

Re: Why Obama is a lock to win the election

I never heard a single story about Republicans thinking OBama was more beatable, perhaps that was early in the campaign. After Super Tuesday, when Obama inched ahead, and especially later, most of the story was about Republicans voting Clinton to drag-out the race - Limbaugh's "operation chaos."

What I refer to are the stories about the "Obamacans." I heard many interviews with people saying they are voting Dem for the first time in their life because of Obama, many radio callers put-through on NPR with this view. I agree there may not be many such people, but the media has promoted them with an aura of respectful wonder.

I contrast this with the many stories of Democrats pledging to vote for McCain. These people are characterized either as 1) white male racists in pickup trucks, or 2) shrieking menopausal women in need of psychiatric attention.

Clearly we must listen to different sources!

Granted, once Obama looked to be the winner, some focus shifted to Clinton to drag it out and let the two bloody each other for as long as possible. However, when it was still iffy, I heard more conservatives (Republicans if you will) hoping to face Obama than Cliinton.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Re: Why Obama is a lock to win the election

However, when it was still iffy, I heard more conservatives (Republicans if you will) hoping to face Obama than Cliinton.

Well, they have their wish, and I expect they are going to get their asses kicked.

I was listening to a conservative talk radio show last night, Bill Cunningham, and he estimates that conservative talk radio reaches a maximum of 25 million people, all shows combined. This is a lot, but not compared to other media, and it's preaching to the choir.

Contrast that with more mainstream media. "The View" discusses politics to a huge, broad (no pun intended) audiance, and they are relentlessly pro-Obama. They give some favorable coverage to McCain, this is not just a liberal-targeted show.

[hoosier]

Re: Why Obama is a lock to win the election

I never heard a single story about Republicans thinking OBama was more beatable, perhaps that was early in the campaign. After Super Tuesday, when Obama inched ahead, and especially later, most of the story was about Republicans voting Clinton to drag-out the race - Limbaugh's "operation chaos."

What I refer to are the stories about the "Obamacans." I heard many interviews with people saying they are voting Dem for the first time in their life because of Obama, many radio callers put-through on NPR with this view. I agree there may not be many such people, but the media has promoted them with an aura of respectful wonder.

I contrast this with the many stories of Democrats pledging to vote for McCain. These people are characterized either as 1) white male racists in pickup trucks, or 2) shrieking menopausal women in need of psychiatric attention.

Which one of those images best describes you? In all seriousness, my intuition is that more Democrats will vote for McCain than Republicans for Obama. That may be particularly the case in states like NY and FL, where Jewish voters reject Obama. The number of Obamacans will be relatively small, but there may be large number of ObamaWeCans, or (primarily young) people who Obama has turned onto politics for the first time.

[Joemailman]

Of course, anything can happen. Really though, I don't think this election is about McCain. It's about Obama. Americans will either embrace Obama or reject him. If they reject him, McCain will be the President, albeit probably not a very popular one.

I agree the election is about Obama, and it's his to lose. I think you underestimate McCain. And the most devisive issue on the table - Iraq - is resolving.

Perhaps I am underestimating McCain, but to me he looks a little like Johnny Unitas in a Chargers uniform. Just not what he was 8 years ago. If the Iraq situation resolves itself, that could cut both ways. It would help McCain in that McCain supported the surge and Obama did not. However, if it results in the economy being a bigger issue than Iraq, I think that helps Obama.

[Scott Campbell]

Please teach me, I am so uninformed.

ROFL

[Harlan Huckleby]

Re: Why Obama is a lock to win the election

The number of Obamacans will be relatively small

I think there will be 7 nation wide. The "Obamacan" story was always a joke. But Obama don't need no stinkin' Republicans.

[Patler]

Re: Why Obama is a lock to win the election

Contrast that with more mainstream media. "The View" discusses politics to a huge, broad (no pun intended) audiance, and they are relentlessly pro-Obama. They give some favorable coverage to McCain, this is not just a liberal-targeted show.

I think it is a bit too early to decide if the mainstream media (whoever you think embodies it!) will be pro-Obama, pro-McCain, anti-Obama or anti-McCain. Obama and McCain haven't really yet begun to run against each other.

McCain is pretty much an open book. He has been in the national spotlight for years, and there is not much to learn about him that we don't already know. For that reason he is largely ignored right now. Even the Republican primary failed to keep him in the news.

On the other hand, we are just beginning to learn about Obama and who he really is. What is perceived as pro-Obama bias in the media might just be the sources broadcasting what they feel people don't know. So far that is controlled by the Obama camp, so is necessarily pro-Obama. As the campaign heats up, the sources of information on Obama will broaden, and any preceived media bias could change quickly.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I hope you are right, Patler, cause I don't want no stinkin' Obama.


As Dan Rather says, "Courage"

[Patler]

I hope you are right, Patler, cause I don't want no stinkin' Obama.
As Dan Rather says, "Courage"

I always picked you for a Republican!

[sheepshead]

2) is just crap

So you have failed to notice the positive spin and protection Obama gets in the media?

Oh that's right, you are exclusively a Fox News , Rush Limbaugh, and "Cracker Today" guy.

sure, i was talking about the money part. Listen if this country turned out in record numbers in 2004 to make sure John Kerry didnt get into the white house, imagine the trouncing this guy is gonna take.

[Scott Campbell]

I think McCain's biggest hurdle will be fighting the Bush hangover. The Dems should easily take the White House this year, though they probably should have beaten GB in the two previous elections, but ended up choking.

[SkinBasket]

Re: Why Obama is a lock to win the election

"The View" discusses politics to a huge, broad (no pun intended) audiance, and they are relentlessly pro-Obama.

Just when I thought my opinion of you couldn't possibly get any lower...