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If Im such a pussy why didnt you accept my free ticket invite to the bears/Packers game last year? Cuz you aint nothing but a big, scary bitch. Real man, yeah right, you aint nothign but a real wimp.Originally posted by Harlan HucklebyRecently, tough-guy, gang-banger-pretend Madtown made a passionate speech about how it is wrong to prevent convicted felons from voting. Now he turns around and says it is right to prevent unconvicted felons from breathing or walking.
As for you ignorant comment, I said convicted felons who have done their time and have gotten their shit together and are now contributing members of society should be allowed to vote again. These guys that got blasted dont fit that description so dont try to spin things cuz you really aint very good at it despite your belief that you are highly intelligent you fucking balls licker.
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The proper response was.....YET....and now they won't be ever.Originally posted by SkinBasketThat doesn't make them not-intruders. Or is it only a crime if it affects you personally?Originally posted by Tyrone BiggunsThey weren't intruders of Mr. Horn's home.Originally posted by SkinBasketWhat the fuck are you calling them? Propertial interlopers? Borrowers of other people's shit?Originally posted by Harlan HucklebyIn the Joe Horn story, there were no intruders.
Or is this like, "there is no spoon."The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Thats what makes Mr Horn a hero IMO. He did something that is badly lacking Im America today, not turning a blind eye to something bad going down right in front of him.Originally posted by SkinBasketThat doesn't make them not-intruders. Or is it only a crime if it affects you personally?Originally posted by Tyrone BiggunsThey weren't intruders of Mr. Horn's home.
If we thought a little more like Mr Horn the world would be a much better place.
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Go ahead. I'm wearing a condom!Originally posted by Harlan HucklebyI'm gonna fill a squirt gun with ejaculate, and don't think I'll be afraid to use it. Nobody messes with my stuff.Originally posted by SkinBasketCan we start a gang for this? The thought of a mob of packerrats assaulting Harlan's hovel and taking everything that's not nailed down seems like a good idea. It would be cathartic and should only take a minute or two. Maybe we could burn it all in his front yard while chanting "yes we can!"
And I voted for the first one only.
Joe Horn murdered those two guys and he was wrong.
But I can't get excited about the injustice of not prosecuting him.
I'll bet crime goes down on his block anyway.[QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.
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1.) First of all, the term "cold-blooded murderer" implies to me someone killed a person with no remorse. Joe Horn has since expressed regret for what he did, and has stated that if he could relive the scenario, he wouldn't go outside. That doesn't sound "cold-blooded" to me.Originally posted by Harlan HucklebyI think a lot of people (including Mr. Basket) didn't listen to the youtube audio of the 911 call. It really tells a story, Joe is pretty open about why he is gonna waste those two.
John Horn is every bit as much of a cold-blooded murderer as OJ. Our imperfect legal system excused both of them, but that doesn't mean we should approve of what they did.
Some people in our country are appalled that Islamic Law allows a thief's hand to be cut-off. The kooks in the Christian World, mostly concentrated in the U.S., go far more extreme: it's ok to murder an apparent thief, even if they aren't on your property and pose no threat.
Recently, tough-guy, gang-banger-pretend Madtown made a passionate speech about how it is wrong to prevent convicted felons from voting. Now he turns around and says it is right to prevent unconvicted felons from breathing or walking.
2.) They were on his property, and they were posing a threat.
Public opinion of Joe Horn in the Houston area (which, by the way, is a lot more diverse than you'd like to portray. You want to see old "shoot-em-up Texas", head out towards El Paso). is 2-to-1 in support of Horn. I still say we pin a medal on the man, and no, I'm not a neo-con conservative. I've never owned, held, or shot a gun. I still wouldn't mind one bit if he moved next door to me.
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ok, then they crank-open the crashed car and there in the back seat is the driver's dead, pregnant wife, about to give birth.Originally posted by bobbleheadspeeding....if someone is speeding down the road and could cause an accident that kills someone I put a 9mm drill bit in their forehead...I have no tolerance for law breakers.
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That doesn't make them not-intruders. Or is it only a crime if it affects you personally?[/quote]Originally posted by SkinBasketThey weren't intruders of Mr. Horn's home.
Are you saying that it is ok to shoot anyone you see committing a crime? Where do YOU draw the line? You were opposed to shooting teenagers spotted stealing beer from the neighbors garage. But you are cool with shooting fleeing columbians. Why the differentiation? (I suspect it is just a difference in anger, but speak for yourself.)
In my opinion, it is only a crime worthy of a shooting if someone's safety is at stake.
The handful of people who gave serious thought to this questions gave answers that I think most people will reach if they start thinking about the consequences. Firearms should only be used as a last resort, in self defense.
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Originally posted by Tarlam!At the point where they followed him onto his property, they became intruders. According to the tapes on youtube and from what I can gather the ununiformed police officer had to say, he acted in self defense.
If these are the facts, then I agree he had a right to shoot the bastards.
But that doesn't sound likely. He shot both guys in the back as they were running away. Obviously a shot in the air would have accomplished his self-protection, if even that were needed. And the cops were already on the scene, and Joe Horn knew it, he shot them while he had the chance. The New York Times emphasised that it was "protection of property" that the jury used to let Smokin' Joe off.
That jury sounds a lot like the OJ jury.
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How can you know what description those guys fit when you pull the trigger?Originally posted by MadtownPackerconvicted felons who have done their time and have gotten their shit together and are now contributing members of society should be allowed to vote again. These guys that got blasted dont fit that description so dont try to spin things cuz you really aint very good at it despite your belief that you are highly intelligent you fucking balls licker.
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Originally posted by MadtownPackerIf Im such a pussy why didnt you accept my free ticket invite to the bears/Packers game last year? Cuz you aint nothing but a big, scary bitch. Real man, yeah right, you aint nothign but a real wimp.
Just a review of the facts:
You had THREE extra tickets because understandably nobody wanted to sit next to you. I told you I would take all three, I needed two for myself because of my large size and fucking unbendable leg, and I would bring my lesbian packer fan friend for the third seat.
You crapped your pants. Sent me an email "it's just me and you, motherfucker." Obviously you didn't want to share me.
The next thing I know, you've sold two of your extra tickets on eBay. You mailed them by carrier pigeon or something, and its obvious the people aren;t going to get them in time. So you're in the forum whining "what should I do, what should I do!" GBRulz sez she'll fix everything, but predictably the bitch falls short. I heroically insist that you call the packer office, you take my advice, and they fix things for you.
Now, isn't that REALLY how things went down, Pinocchio ?
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It seems to me, (I listened to the tape you posted, did you?), that it is a fact that the intruders were at one time charging Joe Horn on his property. So, I think your point is mute.Originally posted by Harlan HucklebyOriginally posted by Tarlam!At the point where they followed him onto his property, they became intruders. According to the tapes on youtube and from what I can gather the ununiformed police officer had to say, he acted in self defense.
If these are the facts, then I agree he had a right to shoot the bastards.
But that doesn't sound likely. He shot both guys in the back as they were running away. Obviously a shot in the air would have accomplished his self-protection, if even that were needed. And the cops were already on the scene, and Joe Horn knew it, he shot them while he had the chance. The New York Times emphasised that it was "protection of property" that the jury used to let Smokin' Joe off.
That jury sounds a lot like the OJ jury.
Somebody posted that back in the day your country was becoming great, everyone had a gun and would have used it in a similar way to Joe horn, given the circumstances were similar.
Now, in 1776, I doubt there were too many illegal alien Colombians breaking into your neighbors house. But over the 232 year period since then, liberal law makers in my country as well as yours have basically put out a welcome mat for criminals.
That has got to stop. With the world economy going ape-shit, honest people can no longer afford the luxury of leniency.
Your example of kids stealing beer from my garage is pathetic. They shouldn't be stealing anything from my garage and they wouldn't be, if they knew I had a shotgun and was prepared to protect my beer with it.
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