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  • #46
    Originally posted by HowardRoark
    Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
    Originally posted by mraynrand
    Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns

    Ty was working at BCBS headquarters in Jax. Ty could not believe the # of morbidly obese working at an insurance company. Every meeting that had food had bad food for you...donuts, pastries...even the bagels came with the worst of the cream cheeses, etc.

    Anyway, Ty would always wonder why they couldn't have something healthy...fruit, etc. Something that didn't contribute to people getting fat..and when you eat crappy food and sit around at your job..you are going to get fat.
    It was probably a money issue. Everyone knows that unhealthy foods are cheaper.
    While you are being sarcastic...there is truth to that. Hard for fresh fruit to compete with the price of dunkin donuts.

    course, if BCBS took a long range view, instead of a quarterly view..the problem with many businesses in this country..they woulda realized that the amount they saving now was killing them later.
    Are you going to start telling us about the finer points of three day old French pastries again?

    Do people actually make pilgrimages to your home?
    Is it your personal mission to seek out all my posts? Curiously, this seems to be an ad hominem attack...which you fervently despise.

    1. Are you disputing that fresh fruit (cut up by the deli section) costs less than 24 donuts?
    2. Food...again, culturally non aware.
    3. Bakery..um, it is pretty simple. Anyone who has shopped, which you obviously leave to your wife, knows that day old bread/bakery is a value. AFter that it is dumped. Uh, that is why commercial bakeries wrap their shit up. You don't go to the local bakery/patisserie and find their goodies wrapped.

    Pilgrimmage...the compound is full. I only allow free thinking hot women.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
      Originally posted by mraynrand
      Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns

      Ty was working at BCBS headquarters in Jax. Ty could not believe the # of morbidly obese working at an insurance company. Every meeting that had food had bad food for you...donuts, pastries...even the bagels came with the worst of the cream cheeses, etc.

      Anyway, Ty would always wonder why they couldn't have something healthy...fruit, etc. Something that didn't contribute to people getting fat..and when you eat crappy food and sit around at your job..you are going to get fat.
      It was probably a money issue. Everyone knows that unhealthy foods are cheaper.
      While you are being sarcastic...there is truth to that. Hard for fresh fruit to compete with the price of dunkin donuts.

      course, if BCBS took a long range view, instead of a quarterly view..the problem with many businesses in this country..they woulda realized that the amount they saving now was killing them later.
      Exactly.
      "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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      • #48
        Originally posted by mraynrand
        Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
        Originally posted by mraynrand
        Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns

        Ty was working at BCBS headquarters in Jax. Ty could not believe the # of morbidly obese working at an insurance company. Every meeting that had food had bad food for you...donuts, pastries...even the bagels came with the worst of the cream cheeses, etc.

        Anyway, Ty would always wonder why they couldn't have something healthy...fruit, etc. Something that didn't contribute to people getting fat..and when you eat crappy food and sit around at your job..you are going to get fat.
        It was probably a money issue. Everyone knows that unhealthy foods are cheaper.
        So, you are agreeing it costs more to eat healthy?

        While you are being sarcastic...there is truth to that. Hard for fresh fruit to compete with the price of dunkin donuts.

        course, if BCBS took a long range view, instead of a quarterly view..the problem with many businesses in this country..they woulda realized that the amount they saving now was killing them later.
        Exactly.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by mraynrand
          Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
          Originally posted by mraynrand
          Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns

          Ty was working at BCBS headquarters in Jax. Ty could not believe the # of morbidly obese working at an insurance company. Every meeting that had food had bad food for you...donuts, pastries...even the bagels came with the worst of the cream cheeses, etc.

          Anyway, Ty would always wonder why they couldn't have something healthy...fruit, etc. Something that didn't contribute to people getting fat..and when you eat crappy food and sit around at your job..you are going to get fat.
          It was probably a money issue. Everyone knows that unhealthy foods are cheaper.
          So, you are agreeing it costs more to eat healthy?

          While you are being sarcastic...there is truth to that. Hard for fresh fruit to compete with the price of dunkin donuts.

          course, if BCBS took a long range view, instead of a quarterly view..the problem with many businesses in this country..they woulda realized that the amount they saving now was killing them later.
          Exactly.

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          • #50
            Couldn't figure out your response, so I'll spell it out: I agree with your long view comment. OVERALL, it probably isn't more (or much more) expensive to eat relatively more healthy. Mix in 'expensive' fruits and vegetables, eat less of the 'inexpensive' crap, exercise, and in the long run I bet you don't get obese, don't generate medical bills (for Type II diabetes, etc.), and don't 'need' a bariatric bypass.
            "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
              Originally posted by HowardRoark
              Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
              Originally posted by mraynrand
              Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns

              Ty was working at BCBS headquarters in Jax. Ty could not believe the # of morbidly obese working at an insurance company. Every meeting that had food had bad food for you...donuts, pastries...even the bagels came with the worst of the cream cheeses, etc.

              Anyway, Ty would always wonder why they couldn't have something healthy...fruit, etc. Something that didn't contribute to people getting fat..and when you eat crappy food and sit around at your job..you are going to get fat.
              It was probably a money issue. Everyone knows that unhealthy foods are cheaper.
              While you are being sarcastic...there is truth to that. Hard for fresh fruit to compete with the price of dunkin donuts.

              course, if BCBS took a long range view, instead of a quarterly view..the problem with many businesses in this country..they woulda realized that the amount they saving now was killing them later.
              Are you going to start telling us about the finer points of three day old French pastries again?

              Do people actually make pilgrimages to your home?
              Is it your personal mission to seek out all my posts? Curiously, this seems to be an ad hominem attack...which you fervently despise.

              1. Are you disputing that fresh fruit (cut up by the deli section) costs less than 24 donuts?
              2. Food...again, culturally non aware.
              3. Bakery..um, it is pretty simple. Anyone who has shopped, which you obviously leave to your wife, knows that day old bread/bakery is a value. AFter that it is dumped. Uh, that is why commercial bakeries wrap their shit up. You don't go to the local bakery/patisserie and find their goodies wrapped.

              Pilgrimmage...the compound is full. I only allow free thinking hot women.
              I guess I like to imagine the all of us here in the Romper Room, you included, are a little bit above the pay grade that worries about whether or not a day old doughnut is cheaper or flakier than a fresh doughnut. Or, should we slice a vegetable, or buy it pre-sliced. Who cares? These people are unemployed and depressed!!!!!

              I’ll kick in a few bucks and donate some Burpee Vegetable seeds. They can become master gardeners. It will be cheap, and who knows, they might even get over their depression. At least they will have to bend over to weed the garden every few days. Good exercise too.

              All I do is give.
              After lunch the players lounged about the hotel patio watching the surf fling white plumes high against the darkening sky. Clouds were piling up in the west… Vince Lombardi frowned.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Zool
                It takes will power to want to change. It takes will power to go seek help. It takes will power to realize that you're responsible for yourself.
                you're right, it takes some will power. it's a fight. but there's something more, the brain has to change to a whole new state. what I'm saying is simple but hard to put in words. And I'm not exactly sure what it takes to get to that new state, probably different for everyone. But lets say a drinker who has tried a thousand times to quit and failed, and then somehow succeeds. Or the dieter who somehow gets over the wall - something happened to change their state of mind, the will power was the same all 1000 times before.

                A lot of people are going to need a whole new environment, like hospitalization, or something dramatic, to change their state of mind.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by mraynrand
                  Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                  , and there will be better technologies for fighting obesity

                  you're probably right for childhood obesity.

                  but I think that drugs and improved fat-substitutes in foods will help too, especially with adults.

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                  • #54
                    I don't know, Harlan. Yes, there is a miniscule portion of the population that is hardwired to overeat (about the number of fat college kids in the 50's). I will guarantee you that those who are genetically disposed in no way, shape or form reaches 86% of the populaiton, but I wonder what percentage of the population is willing to use that as an excuse when the real truth is that it's more tempting to munch when you're sitting still. Popcorn and a movie anyone? How come they don't offer popcorn and a trail ride?

                    I've noticed with a desk job that I could be snacking all day if I didn't pay attention, but I either drink ice water or chew gum. Or I get up from my desk and go see that co-worker upstairs rather than e-mailing.

                    I think that for a very small portion of the population, people are genetically hard wired to eat more. The rest are just fat.
                    "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by MJZiggy
                      I think that for a very small portion of the population, people are genetically hard wired to eat more. The rest are just fat.
                      ya, it's gonna be variable. I don't believe it is just a small percentage of obese people who have a strong genetically determined behavior. Why are some kiddies in familes chubby and not others? But I can't tell ya the %

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by HowardRoark
                        Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                        Originally posted by HowardRoark
                        Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                        Originally posted by mraynrand
                        Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns

                        Ty was working at BCBS headquarters in Jax. Ty could not believe the # of morbidly obese working at an insurance company. Every meeting that had food had bad food for you...donuts, pastries...even the bagels came with the worst of the cream cheeses, etc.

                        Anyway, Ty would always wonder why they couldn't have something healthy...fruit, etc. Something that didn't contribute to people getting fat..and when you eat crappy food and sit around at your job..you are going to get fat.
                        It was probably a money issue. Everyone knows that unhealthy foods are cheaper.
                        While you are being sarcastic...there is truth to that. Hard for fresh fruit to compete with the price of dunkin donuts.

                        course, if BCBS took a long range view, instead of a quarterly view..the problem with many businesses in this country..they woulda realized that the amount they saving now was killing them later.
                        Are you going to start telling us about the finer points of three day old French pastries again?

                        Do people actually make pilgrimages to your home?
                        Is it your personal mission to seek out all my posts? Curiously, this seems to be an ad hominem attack...which you fervently despise.

                        1. Are you disputing that fresh fruit (cut up by the deli section) costs less than 24 donuts?
                        2. Food...again, culturally non aware.
                        3. Bakery..um, it is pretty simple. Anyone who has shopped, which you obviously leave to your wife, knows that day old bread/bakery is a value. AFter that it is dumped. Uh, that is why commercial bakeries wrap their shit up. You don't go to the local bakery/patisserie and find their goodies wrapped.

                        Pilgrimmage...the compound is full. I only allow free thinking hot women.
                        I guess I like to imagine the all of us here in the Romper Room, you included, are a little bit above the pay grade that worries about whether or not a day old doughnut is cheaper or flakier than a fresh doughnut. Or, should we slice a vegetable, or buy it pre-sliced. Who cares? These people are unemployed and depressed!!!!!

                        I’ll kick in a few bucks and donate some Burpee Vegetable seeds. They can become master gardeners. It will be cheap, and who knows, they might even get over their depression. At least they will have to bend over to weed the garden every few days. Good exercise too.

                        All I do is give.
                        It isn't a question about buying..it is about knowing.

                        this thread ain't about people..it is about trans fat...try to stick to the topic.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                          Originally posted by MJZiggy
                          I think that for a very small portion of the population, people are genetically hard wired to eat more. The rest are just fat.
                          Why are some kiddies in familes chubby and not others?
                          Because their parents let them sit around playing video games or watching sesame street all day and then feed their kids Mickey D's and Twinkies.
                          "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by MJZiggy
                            Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                            Originally posted by MJZiggy
                            I think that for a very small portion of the population, people are genetically hard wired to eat more. The rest are just fat.
                            Why are some kiddies in familes chubby and not others?
                            Because their parents let them sit around playing video games or watching sesame street all day and then feed their kids Mickey D's and Twinkies.
                            I think he was asking why one child may be fat while the other isn't in one family. Not the root causes.

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                            • #59
                              Well how often does that happen? (maybe about as much as fat college kids in the50's?)
                              "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by MJZiggy
                                Well how often does that happen? (maybe about as much as fat college kids in the50's?)
                                I don't know..HH's question.

                                Fat women are invisible to ty....ty suffers from fat blindness.

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