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  • #31
    Re: A hidden valley in Colorado

    Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
    Originally posted by SkinBasket
    Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
    Choosing not to enter the field? Really? Another mistatement on your part. Med school apps are up.
    I've known just short of a dozen med school applicants. I don't know any doctors. Turns out applying to med school doesn't make you a doctor. Sucks for them. And for your argument.
    Of course they aren't docs...smart people who get into med school don't hang around with your type.

    The point, which you can't deny is that med schools are hardly crying about filling open spots. There are no shortage of applicants and no shortage of good applicants to fill the school.
    Well thank goodness you've made your point that med schools don't have empty seats, but instead have "good applicants" (versus those nasty bad applicants) filling each and every one. For a second there, I thought maybe your point had nothing to do with your argument.
    "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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    • #32
      Re: A hidden valley in Colorado

      Originally posted by hoosier
      Originally posted by Scott Campbell
      Originally posted by hoosier
      For the first part of what you're saying, you'll need to give a bit more evidence to convince me that "multibillionaire drain" is becoming a real problem before I can take your questions seriously. Logically what you're proposing--that the richest of the rich are fed up with paying taxes and are going to take their marbles and go home (but where?)--just doesn't make sense. There might be individual cases fo such behavior, but a broader social movement in that direction just isn't plausible. So show me something tangible that proves your not just cooking up a right-wing boogeyman to scare the public into demanding that the IRS be shut down.

      Tangible? So you expect the rich to form some sort of coalition and call a press conference to announce they're leaving? When people get fed up, the won't say shit. They'll just take their money and leave.
      Ok. Right after they finish their three-semester crash course in Spanish or Croatian. Have fun with that.

      Costa Rica baby.

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      • #33
        Re: A hidden valley in Colorado

        Originally posted by Scott Campbell
        Originally posted by hoosier
        Originally posted by Scott Campbell
        Originally posted by hoosier
        For the first part of what you're saying, you'll need to give a bit more evidence to convince me that "multibillionaire drain" is becoming a real problem before I can take your questions seriously. Logically what you're proposing--that the richest of the rich are fed up with paying taxes and are going to take their marbles and go home (but where?)--just doesn't make sense. There might be individual cases fo such behavior, but a broader social movement in that direction just isn't plausible. So show me something tangible that proves your not just cooking up a right-wing boogeyman to scare the public into demanding that the IRS be shut down.

        Tangible? So you expect the rich to form some sort of coalition and call a press conference to announce they're leaving? When people get fed up, the won't say shit. They'll just take their money and leave.
        Ok. Right after they finish their three-semester crash course in Spanish or Croatian. Have fun with that.

        Costa Rica baby.
        Quiero ir.
        "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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        • #34
          Re: A hidden valley in Colorado

          Originally posted by MJZiggy
          Originally posted by Scott Campbell
          Originally posted by hoosier
          Originally posted by Scott Campbell
          Originally posted by hoosier
          For the first part of what you're saying, you'll need to give a bit more evidence to convince me that "multibillionaire drain" is becoming a real problem before I can take your questions seriously. Logically what you're proposing--that the richest of the rich are fed up with paying taxes and are going to take their marbles and go home (but where?)--just doesn't make sense. There might be individual cases fo such behavior, but a broader social movement in that direction just isn't plausible. So show me something tangible that proves your not just cooking up a right-wing boogeyman to scare the public into demanding that the IRS be shut down.

          Tangible? So you expect the rich to form some sort of coalition and call a press conference to announce they're leaving? When people get fed up, the won't say shit. They'll just take their money and leave.
          Ok. Right after they finish their three-semester crash course in Spanish or Croatian. Have fun with that.

          Costa Rica baby.
          Quiero ir.
          \
          Vamanos ahora.
          "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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          • #35
            Hay problema. No soy rica. Yo no soy la que es importante aqui. Mierda. Querida ir pero necesito trabajar por survivir como gente normal.
            "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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            • #36
              Re: A hidden valley in Colorado

              Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
              Originally posted by SkinBasket
              Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
              Choosing not to enter the field? Really? Another mistatement on your part. Med school apps are up.
              I've known just short of a dozen med school applicants. I don't know any doctors. Turns out applying to med school doesn't make you a doctor. Sucks for them. And for your argument.
              Of course they aren't docs...smart people who get into med school don't hang around with your type.

              The point, which you can't deny is that med schools are hardly crying about filling open spots. There are no shortage of applicants and no shortage of good applicants to fill the school.
              The flaw in your logic is that the good candidates may be leaving to go elsewhere perhaps, and the candidates applying are not as strong. Most medical schools are far easier to get in then PA programs (other than the very elite ones), and many good doctor candidates are becoming PAs because you get to actually help people and do what a doctor does essentially without the overhead of actually running the business.

              That's a very cocky statement to make about Skin. He is not classy enough to roll with people who apply to medical school? I'd love to meet you and punch you in the face for being such a pompous douche.

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              • #37
                Re: A hidden valley in Colorado

                Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                ....smart people who get into med school don't hang around with your type.


                Typical.

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                • #38
                  Re: A hidden valley in Colorado

                  Originally posted by SkinBasket
                  Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                  Originally posted by SkinBasket
                  Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                  Originally posted by SkinBasket
                  Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                  And, i will be more than happy to go to foreign countries and receive better care for less.
                  How quick you are to leave behind all your less fortunate liberal masses. Or will you be taking delegations of inner city children in need of "better" medical care with you on your foreign expeditions?
                  It might be nice if your argument had merit. Simply talking about coverage. If you dont' think in the next 20 years that most of our carriers aren't going to offer you the consumer the choice of doing this then you are wildly naive.

                  It is already happening now. Once the stigma dissapates it, adoption will be fast and furious. Especially when they tell you that you can put money in your pocket by going to Thailand for surgery.

                  What argument? I'm just surprised at how quickly you're willing to leave all your poor liberal comrades behind when you jump on a flight for Thailand for your medical care. Seems kind of elitist. Like you're not worried about the quality of domestic health care because you can afford to go elsewhere. Or are you saying that "once the stigma dissapates" your low income friends will pay the $10.00 they can afford on their heating bill that month, then pack their bags to join you on your flight to Thailand?
                  Are you slow. This isn't private costs. This is covered by anyone with a plan..united, bcbs, etc.

                  That is the future. Get ready.
                  Oh, so how is this plan to ship everyone to Taiwan funded? Or are the airlines carrying people for free? Since we're talking about the future, perhaps Scotty will just beam people there, saving the 2-4K in costs?
                  Are you that slow? Do i have to spell it ou for you.

                  Look, if an operation costs 50K here, and 25K there....the flight isn't a problem. I posted links...read them.

                  The insurers are already doing this. They are also offering you, the consumer the option..stay in the states and have the work done here...or go overseas and they will give you part of the savings.

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                  • #39
                    source?

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                    • #40
                      Re: A hidden valley in Colorado

                      Originally posted by SkinBasket
                      Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                      Originally posted by SkinBasket
                      Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                      Choosing not to enter the field? Really? Another mistatement on your part. Med school apps are up.
                      I've known just short of a dozen med school applicants. I don't know any doctors. Turns out applying to med school doesn't make you a doctor. Sucks for them. And for your argument.
                      Of course they aren't docs...smart people who get into med school don't hang around with your type.

                      The point, which you can't deny is that med schools are hardly crying about filling open spots. There are no shortage of applicants and no shortage of good applicants to fill the school.

                      Well thank goodness you've made your point that med schools don't have empty seats, but instead have "good applicants" (versus those nasty bad applicants) filling each and every one. For a second there, I thought maybe your point had nothing to do with your argument.
                      Doesn't change the truth, which is that rand is wrong.

                      The rest is just your lame attempt at a pyrhic victory.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Partial
                        source?
                        Google it. Isn't that what you told me to do.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                          Originally posted by Partial
                          source?
                          Google it. Isn't that what you told me to do.
                          The situations are hardly similiar.

                          You're saying I'm wrong on something, disagreeing with the quote I've provided.

                          You're refusing to provide a quote, source, or anything.

                          You must not roll with many doctors.


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                          • #43
                            Re: A hidden valley in Colorado

                            Originally posted by Partial
                            Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                            Originally posted by SkinBasket
                            Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                            Choosing not to enter the field? Really? Another mistatement on your part. Med school apps are up.
                            I've known just short of a dozen med school applicants. I don't know any doctors. Turns out applying to med school doesn't make you a doctor. Sucks for them. And for your argument.
                            Of course they aren't docs...smart people who get into med school don't hang around with your type.

                            The point, which you can't deny is that med schools are hardly crying about filling open spots. There are no shortage of applicants and no shortage of good applicants to fill the school.
                            The flaw in your logic is that the good candidates may be leaving to go elsewhere perhaps, and the candidates applying are not as strong. Most medical schools are far easier to get in then PA programs (other than the very elite ones), and many good doctor candidates are becoming PAs because you get to actually help people and do what a doctor does essentially without the overhead of actually running the business.

                            That's a very cocky statement to make about Skin. He is not classy enough to roll with people who apply to medical school? I'd love to meet you and punch you in the face for being such a pompous douche.
                            1. Good candidates...right. Please show some proof of that. Otherwise it is just more of your bullshit.

                            2. Med schools easier. Right. PA programs may have more applicants..again some proof please.

                            3. People choosing PA over doctor. Right. Sure they are. This is ludicrous. To compare the roll and salary of a PA to a physician is hilarious.

                            4. Skin. Man, you can't even follow along. I never said he wasn't classy enough to roll with applicants...clearly he is...as he stated he knew many. Try and follow along...the folks he knows may be classy, but not smart enough or have the grades.

                            5. Punch me. LOL. Wow. you are showing your class. And, i would be glad to let you punch me...as there would be nothing more hilarious than watching you go jail on an assualt and battery charge. I'm sure your future employers will love that when they run a background check and discover you are a new felon. Good times.

                            Not to mention the time, money and aggravation it will cost you since it is also a tort, which means I can sue you for damages.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Partial
                              Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                              Originally posted by Partial
                              source?
                              Google it. Isn't that what you told me to do.
                              The situations are hardly similiar.

                              You're saying I'm wrong on something, disagreeing with the quote I've provided.

                              You're refusing to provide a quote, source, or anything.

                              You must not roll with many doctors.


                              Yes, they are..as i provided 3 links. If you want specifics..go ahead and look for yourself.

                              Drs: Right. I only have 3 in my immediate family. I've only been discussing or listening to healthcare issues for a solid 25 years.

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                              • #45
                                Re: A hidden valley in Colorado

                                Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                                Originally posted by Partial
                                Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                                Originally posted by SkinBasket
                                Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                                Choosing not to enter the field? Really? Another mistatement on your part. Med school apps are up.
                                I've known just short of a dozen med school applicants. I don't know any doctors. Turns out applying to med school doesn't make you a doctor. Sucks for them. And for your argument.
                                Of course they aren't docs...smart people who get into med school don't hang around with your type.

                                The point, which you can't deny is that med schools are hardly crying about filling open spots. There are no shortage of applicants and no shortage of good applicants to fill the school.
                                The flaw in your logic is that the good candidates may be leaving to go elsewhere perhaps, and the candidates applying are not as strong. Most medical schools are far easier to get in then PA programs (other than the very elite ones), and many good doctor candidates are becoming PAs because you get to actually help people and do what a doctor does essentially without the overhead of actually running the business.

                                That's a very cocky statement to make about Skin. He is not classy enough to roll with people who apply to medical school? I'd love to meet you and punch you in the face for being such a pompous douche.
                                1. Good candidates...right. Please show some proof of that. Otherwise it is just more of your bullshit.

                                2. Med schools easier. Right. PA programs may have more applicants..again some proof please.

                                3. People choosing PA over doctor. Right. Sure they are. This is ludicrous. To compare the roll and salary of a PA to a physician is hilarious.

                                4. Skin. Man, you can't even follow along. I never said he wasn't classy enough to roll with applicants...clearly he is...as he stated he knew many. Try and follow along...the folks he knows may be classy, but not smart enough or have the grades.

                                5. Punch me. LOL. Wow. you are showing your class. And, i would be glad to let you punch me...as there would be nothing more hilarious than watching you go jail on an assualt and battery charge. I'm sure your future employers will love that when they run a background check and discover you are a new felon. Good times.

                                Not to mention the time, money and aggravation it will cost you since it is also a tort, which means I can sue you for damages.
                                1) I'm disputing your claim which you provided zero sources?

                                2) There are a lot more doctors than PAs. Also, a lot more medical programs than PA programs. Look it up. I have very good knowledge of the subject as my girlfriend is in a top 15 PA program and also applied and was accepted to many medical schools. Maybe for the very top level of medical schools yes, but for most... no way is it even comparable. You don't need very good grades at all to get into medical school. Good luck getting into a PA program without first rate grades.

                                3) That's funny because all of the ladies' friends all chose to be PAs over doctors. Clearly doctors appreciate them or the job wouldn't exist. Also, would it be money magazines #1 field to go into if it weren't popular and important? Sure, salary isn't as high because the doctor is always the boss. Go to a hospital and see what kind of income the docs make.. Not as much as you'd think. Private practice is where the $ is. Again though, since they essentially are a doctor (they can write perscriptions, etc, most people go to see a PA for checkups, PAs can do a large amount of surgeries, etc), I don't really think your statement holds any water. The role is very, very similiar except the PAs actually take care of the patients. No one compared the salary except yourself...

                                4. You said smart doctors don't roll with his type. Are you calling him dumb? How many doctors do you roll with? Please son... Just because both of your parents were doctors doesn't mean you're smart enough to be one or you would be. Your shit stinks as much as anybodies.

                                5. Ok big guy. That's really manly of you. I bet back in whitefish bay when you were clocked in the dome during high school you went and cried to your doc folks as well.

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