A reason to vote for Obama

[gex]

Well after reading these and other arguments for the last few weeks/months, I have changed my mind and will vote for Obama.

After Obama beat Hillary I was all for Mcain, but the only thing I ever hear from Mcain/repub voters is "my money, my money, me,me,me"
Enough is enough, its time to start ponying up for anybody who makes more than $90,000/yr.

Most people around here raise families on between $30-75,000/yr. and the ones making $75 are considered to be living the good life.

You people(greedy) may not like it, but Obama's gettin in and its gonna happen. Time to start taking care of each other as a whole society.

Btw, people making less than $50,000 working in retail and service are on their feet working their asses off for 10-14 hr shifts. Thats who I'm voting for.

[LL2]

Re: A reason to vote for Obama

Well after reading these and other arguments for the last few weeks/months, I have changed my mind and will vote for Obama.

After Obama beat Hillary I was all for Mcain, but the only thing I ever hear from Mcain/repub voters is "my money, my money, me,me,me"
Enough is enough, its time to start ponying up for anybody who makes more than $90,000/yr.

Most people around here raise families on between $30-75,000/yr. and the ones making $75 are considered to be living the good life.

You people(greedy) may not like it, but Obama's gettin in and its gonna happen. Time to start taking care of each other as a whole society.

Btw, people making less than $50,000 working in retail and service are on their feet working their asses off for 10-14 hr shifts. Thats who I'm voting for.

For real?

[GoPackGo]

Re: A reason to vote for Obama

Btw, people making less than $50,000 working in retail and service are on their feet working their asses off for 10-14 hr shifts. Thats who I'm voting for.

Those are called college students, college dropouts, and high school grads. Your reasons on voting for Obama are laughable. In Rhinelander, the only people who make decent money are small business owners and contactors/tradesman. You more than most people should know what Obamas tax policies will mean to your local economy

[arcilite]

Re: A reason to vote for Obama

Btw, people making less than $50,000 working in retail and service are on their feet working their asses off for 10-14 hr shifts. Thats who I'm voting for.

Those are called college students, college dropouts, and high school grads. Your reasons on voting for Obama are laughable. In Rhinelander, the only people who make decent money are small business owners and contactors/tradesman. You more than most people should know what Obamas tax policies will mean to your local economy

They should help since he is going out of his way to help out small businesses.

[GoPackGo]

Re: A reason to vote for Obama

Btw, people making less than $50,000 working in retail and service are on their feet working their asses off for 10-14 hr shifts. Thats who I'm voting for.

Those are called college students, college dropouts, and high school grads. Your reasons on voting for Obama are laughable. In Rhinelander, the only people who make decent money are small business owners and contactors/tradesman. You more than most people should know what Obamas tax policies will mean to your local economy

They should help since he is going out of his way to help out small businesses.

Who should help who? Who is going out of his way to help small businesses? what?
Gex claims his location as the land of the Hodag. I know that means he's in Rhinelander. The only people who make decent money up there are small business owners and tradesman. Those are also the only people creating jobs in Rhinelander. If you burden them with higher taxes, no one will have jobs and times will be even tougher than they already are.

[retailguy]

Well after reading these and other arguments for the last few weeks/months, I have changed my mind and will vote for Obama.

After Obama beat Hillary I was all for Mcain, but the only thing I ever hear from Mcain/repub voters is "my money, my money, me,me,me"
Enough is enough, its time to start ponying up for anybody who makes more than $90,000/yr.

Most people around here raise families on between $30-75,000/yr. and the ones making $75 are considered to be living the good life.

You people(greedy) may not like it, but Obama's gettin in and its gonna happen. Time to start taking care of each other as a whole society.

Btw, people making less than $50,000 working in retail and service are on their feet working their asses off for 10-14 hr shifts. Thats who I'm voting for.

This is probably one of the most uninformed posts related to government and financial matters that I've ever read.

Do you think that I just got things handed to me in my life?

For heavens sake. My father was a beautician and my mother was a housewife. My parents paid $18k for their first house in 1976, and I worked my ASS off in school for scholarships. I spent $60k on a bachelors degree from the University of Wisconsin, and well in excess of $100k for a Masters degree from Columbia. I studied and studied and studied to pass the CPA exam.

Then, I quit my job in the oil industry and opened a retail store. I grew three concept retail stores from one little mall kiosk to 14 stores in 5 years working 70+ hours a week including weekends and holidays. I put up with countless hours of crap from uninformed people, and hired those very uneducated workers you talked about Gex. 3 weeks after they were working for me, they thought they knew how to run my business better than I did. After 7 years of that, I sold the business, and made a down payment on a tax practice.

I ran that practice jointly with a parter for 5 years, and we doubled the size of that practice, working an average of 80 hours per week. When I sold back to my partner, we were doing more tax returns out of tax season than we were during it....

I moved my family half way across the country so my wife could attend law school. She's in her third year, and will graduate in May 2009. We will spend in excess of $125k on her law school education. This doesn't include the costs of her bachelors degree and her masters degree.

So, considering your rant from above, I'm GREEDY? WTF?

I'm not "entitled" to keep what I earned and what I risked? Are you crazy? Maybe you should move to Switzerland, or Denmark. wealth redistribution seems to work out ok over there.

I give more to charity each year than I made annually my first three years out of school. I tithe faithfully to my church. I volunteer my time in Christian and non Christian events in my community. I'm a 10 gallon blood donor. I serve on local boards. And I'M GREEDY? <sigh>

You sir, are completely NUTS. If the rest of the world feels like you do, yes, we're screwed. But if you, and the rest of the $50k wage earners would get OFF THEIR ASS instead of looking for a damn handout, we might get somewhere in this country.

Christ. I'm off my soapbox now.

[Scott Campbell]

Re: A reason to vote for Obama

After Obama beat Hillary I was all for Mcain, but the only thing I ever hear from Mcain/repub voters is "my money, my money, me,me,me"

Huh? Why shouldn't people keep their own money? Its theirs. Not yours.

[Scott Campbell]

Re: A reason to vote for Obama

Btw, people making less than $50,000 working in retail and service are on their feet working their asses off for 10-14 hr shifts. Thats who I'm voting for.

How bout it's time that your and your underachieving retail brethren get off your lazy asses and find real jobs or start real businesses so that you're able contribute more to society? Go make some of your own fucking money, and keep you greedy little paws off mine.

[retailguy]

Re: A reason to vote for Obama

Btw, people making less than $50,000 working in retail and service are on their feet working their asses off for 10-14 hr shifts. Thats who I'm voting for.

How bout it's time that your and your underachieving retail brethren get off your lazy asses and find real jobs or start real businesses so that you're able contribute more to society? Go make some of your own fucking money, and keep you greedy little paws off mine.

lol. :P So, YOU'RE the greedy one, eh?

[Scott Campbell]

Re: A reason to vote for Obama

Btw, people making less than $50,000 working in retail and service are on their feet working their asses off for 10-14 hr shifts. Thats who I'm voting for.

How bout it's time that your and your underachieving retail brethren get off your lazy asses and find real jobs or start real businesses so that you're able contribute more to society? Go make some of your own fucking money, and keep you greedy little paws off mine.

lol. :P So, YOU'RE the greedy one, eh?

I'm really at a loss. Since when is asking to keep my own money being greedy?

[mraynrand]

Re: A reason to vote for Obama

Btw, people making less than $50,000 working in retail and service are on their feet working their asses off for 10-14 hr shifts. Thats who I'm voting for.

How bout it's time that your and your underachieving retail brethren get off your lazy asses and find real jobs or start real businesses so that you're able contribute more to society? Go make some of your own fucking money, and keep you greedy little paws off mine.

lol. :P So, YOU'RE the greedy one, eh?

I'm really at a loss. Since when is asking to keep my own money being greedy?

It's not your money. It's societies' money. Without the rest of society you would not have any money. Your wealth is built on the backs of others - mostly less fortunate than you - people born without the intrinsic ability and motivation that you luckily have. You have no right to your earnings because they all came as a result of a lucky draw in the game of genetic dice and from being lucky in what family and country you were born in - you should also be flogged.

[Scott Campbell]

Re: A reason to vote for Obama

Btw, people making less than $50,000 working in retail and service are on their feet working their asses off for 10-14 hr shifts. Thats who I'm voting for.

How bout it's time that your and your underachieving retail brethren get off your lazy asses and find real jobs or start real businesses so that you're able contribute more to society? Go make some of your own fucking money, and keep you greedy little paws off mine.

lol. :P So, YOU'RE the greedy one, eh?

I'm really at a loss. Since when is asking to keep my own money being greedy?

It's not your money. It's societies' money. Without the rest of society you would not have any money. Your wealth is built on the backs of others - mostly less fortunate than you - people born without the intrinsic ability and motivation that you luckily have. You have no right to your earnings because they all came as a result of a lucky draw in the game of genetic dice and from being lucky in what family and country you were born in - you should also be flogged.

That's another crazy ass liberal rallying cry. This society wasn't built on the backs of societies under performers. It was built on the backs of previous generations of super achievers.

[mraynrand]

Re: A reason to vote for Obama

Btw, people making less than $50,000 working in retail and service are on their feet working their asses off for 10-14 hr shifts. Thats who I'm voting for.

How bout it's time that your and your underachieving retail brethren get off your lazy asses and find real jobs or start real businesses so that you're able contribute more to society? Go make some of your own fucking money, and keep you greedy little paws off mine.

lol. :P So, YOU'RE the greedy one, eh?

I'm really at a loss. Since when is asking to keep my own money being greedy?

It's not your money. It's societies' money. Without the rest of society you would not have any money. Your wealth is built on the backs of others - mostly less fortunate than you - people born without the intrinsic ability and motivation that you luckily have. You have no right to your earnings because they all came as a result of a lucky draw in the game of genetic dice and from being lucky in what family and country you were born in - you should also be flogged.

That's another crazy ass liberal rallying cry. This society wasn't built on the backs of societies under performers. It was built on the backs of previous generations of super achievers.

You're...you're...you're just a selfish BAD MAN!!!!!

[Fosco33]

Not sure where to start.

I live in CA - where the cost of living is twice that in WI.... so why does gross salary matter so much to you. In WI, I'd be 'living the good life.' as you call it. As it stands, I have an apt, 10 yr old car and a 401(k) that is evaporating because of stupid morons borrowing too much money and a failed fiscal conservative government bailing out banks that allowed it to happen.

Besides, Obama 'said' he wouldn't raise taxes for families making under $150K. I feel fortunate because I got married and had a daughter this year - otherwise more of MY paycheck would go to the stupid people (above). Remind me why I should pay into two insolvent gov't programs that I won't see a dime of and I'll stop my bitching.

"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship." (emphasis mine - he continues...)

"The average age of the worlds greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these
nations always progressed through the following sequence
1. From bondage to spiritual faith;
2. From spiritual faith to great courage;
3. From courage to liberty;
4. From liberty to abundance;
5. From abundance to complacency;
6. From complacency to apathy;
7. From apathy to dependence;
8. From dependence back into bondage "

[Scott Campbell]

You know, it's funny how some of these people think we should slice up the golden goose into little pieces so that everybody can have their fair share. The problem is, it ain't going to lay anymore golden eggs if you kill it.