A reason to vote for Obama

[bobblehead]

Well, do you have any evidence to the contrary? My parents have tax documentation from the clinton years and the bush years... I'll give you one guess as to when they were taxed more.

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:YsCl9Z5Be-MJ:www.barackobama.com/pdf/SmallBusi

nessFINAL.pdf+obama+small+business+plan&hl=en&ct=c lnk&cd=1&gl=us

Invest in Women-Owned Small Businesses: Women are majority owners of more than 28 percent of U.S. businesses, but lead less than 4 percent of venture capital-backed firms. Women business owners are more likely than white male business owners to have their loan applications denied. Barack Obama and Joe Biden encourage investment in women-owned businesses, providing more support to women business owners and reducing discrimination in lending. To create greater opportunities for women business owners who would like to do business with the federal government, Obama and Biden will implement the Women Owned Business contracting program that was signed into law by President Bill Clinton, but has yet to be implemented by the Bush Administration.

Increasing Minority Access to Capital: Access to venture capital is critically important to the development of minority-owned businesses. Yet there has been a growing gap between the amounts of venture capital available to minority-owned small businesses compared to other small businesses. Less than 1 percent of the $250 billion in venture capital dollars invested annually nationwide has been directed to the country’s 4.4 million minority business owners. And in recent years, there has been a significant decline in the share of Small Business Investment Company financings that have gone to minority-owned and women-owned businesses. In order to increase their size, capacity, and ability to do business with the federal government, and to compete in the open market, minority firms need greater access to venture capital investment, as well as greater access to business loans. Barack Obama and Joe Biden will strengthen Small Business Administration programs that provide capital to minority-owned businesses, support outreach programs that help minority business owners apply for loans, and work to encourage the growth and capacity of minority firms
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oh...i get it, he is going to CHOOSE who is elligible to run a small business based on skin color and sex....sounds pretty rascist to me. Actually it sounds much like deciding who is elligible to have a mortgage based on skin color...that worked out stellar.

[gex]

[Deputy Nutz]

Major circle jerk going on here.......

Liberals don't have the drive to get ahead? Come on man.....you are smarter than that....you are right?

Not all liberals... but the proof is in the pudding man. If you were poor, would you rather get more money handed to you or less? Who would honestly take less?

If you could live comfortably and not work, would you do it? Plenty of these people do just that. Yes, comfortably is a matter of perspective.

this goes back to the first post by Gex but I will Partial's quote. If taxes get raised, who gets all of this fat cash? Stimulus Checks can and will be handed out again, but how is this money going to generate more money for America? How is this going to get the little guy ahead? More grant money to people that can't fill out the application anyways for grants? Really I want to know how me paying more taxes is going to lessen the burden on the woman serving my my milkshake who doesn't pay taxes anyways..

The government will just spend more of our tax dollars on their bullshit, call it a war, call it social welfare spending, call it whatever you want, our government and the powers of our centralized government is far to big as it is to accept an increase in tax dollars.

[gex]

[SkinBasket]

[Deputy Nutz]

Anal grease.

[gex]

[wist43]

Have any of you ever read the U.S. Constitution???

Wow...

Democracy is a horrible form of government. Always leads to mobocracy/tyranny. Which is why our founders gave us a Republic.

A Republic, a true Republic, PROTECTS THE CITIZENS FROM GOVERNMENT!!!!

The U.S. Constitution is designed to limit government... to protect the citizens FROM GOVERNMENT!!!!

"THE ESSENCE OF FREEDOM - IS THE LIMITATION OF GOVERNMENT".

McCain would be bad enough, but the idea of Obama is enough to make any freedom loving person VOMIT!!!!!

Unbelievable ignorance... Truly sad.

[ThunderDan]

Major circle jerk going on here.......

Liberals don't have the drive to get ahead? Come on man.....you are smarter than that....you are right?

Not all liberals... but the proof is in the pudding man. If you were poor, would you rather get more money handed to you or less? Who would honestly take less?

If you could live comfortably and not work, would you do it? Plenty of these people do just that. Yes, comfortably is a matter of perspective.

this goes back to the first post by Gex but I will Partial's quote. If taxes get raised, who gets all of this fat cash? Stimulus Checks can and will be handed out again, but how is this money going to generate more money for America? How is this going to get the little guy ahead? More grant money to people that can't fill out the application anyways for grants? Really I want to know how me paying more taxes is going to lessen the burden on the woman serving my my milkshake who doesn't pay taxes anyways..

The government will just spend more of our tax dollars on their bullshit, call it a war, call it social welfare spending, call it whatever you want, our government and the powers of our centralized government is far to big as it is to accept an increase in tax dollars.

Nutz-

Let's set this straight right now once and for all.

The stimulus check that some of you got this summer (not me) is a refund of your 2008 taxes that you won't be getting on April 15th 2009. The stimulus check was a tax cut. A lowering of the tax brackets. It should make all conservatives happy that it happened.

You are going to have to enter on your 2008 tax return if you got the refund or not. That way the IRS will know if you get the refund when you file the return or if you already got it.

[HowardRoark]

Major circle jerk going on here.......

Liberals don't have the drive to get ahead? Come on man.....you are smarter than that....you are right?

Not all liberals... but the proof is in the pudding man. If you were poor, would you rather get more money handed to you or less? Who would honestly take less?

If you could live comfortably and not work, would you do it? Plenty of these people do just that. Yes, comfortably is a matter of perspective.

this goes back to the first post by Gex but I will Partial's quote. If taxes get raised, who gets all of this fat cash? Stimulus Checks can and will be handed out again, but how is this money going to generate more money for America? How is this going to get the little guy ahead? More grant money to people that can't fill out the application anyways for grants? Really I want to know how me paying more taxes is going to lessen the burden on the woman serving my my milkshake who doesn't pay taxes anyways..

The government will just spend more of our tax dollars on their bullshit, call it a war, call it social welfare spending, call it whatever you want, our government and the powers of our centralized government is far to big as it is to accept an increase in tax dollars.

Nutz-

Let's set this straight right now once and for all.

The stimulus check that some of you got this summer (not me) is a refund of your 2008 taxes that you won't be getting on April 15th 2009. The stimulus check was a tax cut. A lowering of the tax brackets. It should make all conservatives happy that it happened.

You are going to have to enter on your 2008 tax return if you got the refund or not. That way the IRS will know if you get the refund when you file the return or if you already got it.

Then why didn't I get a refund/tax break?

[Freak Out]

Have any of you ever read the U.S. Constitution???

Wow...

Democracy is a horrible form of government. Always leads to mobocracy/tyranny. Which is why our founders gave us a Republic.

A Republic, a true Republic, PROTECTS THE CITIZENS FROM GOVERNMENT!!!!

The U.S. Constitution is designed to limit government... to protect the citizens FROM GOVERNMENT!!!!

"THE ESSENCE OF FREEDOM - IS THE LIMITATION OF GOVERNMENT".

McCain would be bad enough, but the idea of Obama is enough to make any freedom loving person VOMIT!!!!!

Unbelievable ignorance... Truly sad.

This is why we have guns.

Is it time to overthrow the government?

[wist43]

Have any of you ever read the U.S. Constitution???

Wow...

Democracy is a horrible form of government. Always leads to mobocracy/tyranny. Which is why our founders gave us a Republic.

A Republic, a true Republic, PROTECTS THE CITIZENS FROM GOVERNMENT!!!!

The U.S. Constitution is designed to limit government... to protect the citizens FROM GOVERNMENT!!!!

"THE ESSENCE OF FREEDOM - IS THE LIMITATION OF GOVERNMENT".

McCain would be bad enough, but the idea of Obama is enough to make any freedom loving person VOMIT!!!!!

Unbelievable ignorance... Truly sad.

This is why we have guns.

Is it time to overthrow the government?

Mobocracy is already here, and the mob wants your guns... in case you haven't noticed, the mob is made up primarily of libs, i.e. democrats.

Aunt Ida who draws the SS check, Farmer Ed who draws the crop subsidy, Abortion Sally who gets funds from HHS to convince your pregnant teen to chop her baby up, the corrupt CEO who cashes the golden parachute check handed to him by the government as the stock of his company plummets.

The People themselves have become corrupt. Our founders maintained that freedom is only sustainable for a moral people. Americans are anything but moral.

Aunt Ida's money was stolen from her long ago, but she has absolutely no problem stealing money from yet to be born generations, afterall, she is "entitled". Try to make that argument in the political arena, or to Aunt Ida herself???

Good luck... she'll have you beat over the head with your own gun, and then force open your wallet at the point of a policeman's gun. In the end, all law is force - a corrupt Aunt Ida couldn't care less how she gets her check.

[mraynrand]

Major circle jerk going on here.......

Liberals don't have the drive to get ahead? Come on man.....you are smarter than that....you are right?

Not all liberals... but the proof is in the pudding man. If you were poor, would you rather get more money handed to you or less? Who would honestly take less?

If you could live comfortably and not work, would you do it? Plenty of these people do just that. Yes, comfortably is a matter of perspective.

this goes back to the first post by Gex but I will Partial's quote. If taxes get raised, who gets all of this fat cash? Stimulus Checks can and will be handed out again, but how is this money going to generate more money for America? How is this going to get the little guy ahead? More grant money to people that can't fill out the application anyways for grants? Really I want to know how me paying more taxes is going to lessen the burden on the woman serving my my milkshake who doesn't pay taxes anyways..

The government will just spend more of our tax dollars on their bullshit, call it a war, call it social welfare spending, call it whatever you want, our government and the powers of our centralized government is far to big as it is to accept an increase in tax dollars.

Nutz-

Let's set this straight right now once and for all.

The stimulus check that some of you got this summer (not me) is a refund of your 2008 taxes that you won't be getting on April 15th 2009. The stimulus check was a tax cut. A lowering of the tax brackets. It should make all conservatives happy that it happened.

You are going to have to enter on your 2008 tax return if you got the refund or not. That way the IRS will know if you get the refund when you file the return or if you already got it.

Then why didn't I get a refund/tax break?

You got Sarah Palin - wasn't that stimulus enough? http://article.nationalreview.com/?q...RiNDA4YmQyODE=

[MJZiggy]

Major circle jerk going on here.......

Liberals don't have the drive to get ahead? Come on man.....you are smarter than that....you are right?

Not all liberals... but the proof is in the pudding man. If you were poor, would you rather get more money handed to you or less? Who would honestly take less?

If you could live comfortably and not work, would you do it? Plenty of these people do just that. Yes, comfortably is a matter of perspective.

this goes back to the first post by Gex but I will Partial's quote. If taxes get raised, who gets all of this fat cash? Stimulus Checks can and will be handed out again, but how is this money going to generate more money for America? How is this going to get the little guy ahead? More grant money to people that can't fill out the application anyways for grants? Really I want to know how me paying more taxes is going to lessen the burden on the woman serving my my milkshake who doesn't pay taxes anyways..

The government will just spend more of our tax dollars on their bullshit, call it a war, call it social welfare spending, call it whatever you want, our government and the powers of our centralized government is far to big as it is to accept an increase in tax dollars.

Nutz-

Let's set this straight right now once and for all.

The stimulus check that some of you got this summer (not me) is a refund of your 2008 taxes that you won't be getting on April 15th 2009. The stimulus check was a tax cut. A lowering of the tax brackets. It should make all conservatives happy that it happened.

You are going to have to enter on your 2008 tax return if you got the refund or not. That way the IRS will know if you get the refund when you file the return or if you already got it.

The stimulus check is listed as income, right? Doesn't that mean they're taxing your tax refund? (and ostensibly possibly putting you in a higher bracket if you're on the edge?) Thanks, George.

[ThunderDan]

Major circle jerk going on here.......

Liberals don't have the drive to get ahead? Come on man.....you are smarter than that....you are right?

Not all liberals... but the proof is in the pudding man. If you were poor, would you rather get more money handed to you or less? Who would honestly take less?

If you could live comfortably and not work, would you do it? Plenty of these people do just that. Yes, comfortably is a matter of perspective.

this goes back to the first post by Gex but I will Partial's quote. If taxes get raised, who gets all of this fat cash? Stimulus Checks can and will be handed out again, but how is this money going to generate more money for America? How is this going to get the little guy ahead? More grant money to people that can't fill out the application anyways for grants? Really I want to know how me paying more taxes is going to lessen the burden on the woman serving my my milkshake who doesn't pay taxes anyways..

The government will just spend more of our tax dollars on their bullshit, call it a war, call it social welfare spending, call it whatever you want, our government and the powers of our centralized government is far to big as it is to accept an increase in tax dollars.

Nutz-

Let's set this straight right now once and for all.

The stimulus check that some of you got this summer (not me) is a refund of your 2008 taxes that you won't be getting on April 15th 2009. The stimulus check was a tax cut. A lowering of the tax brackets. It should make all conservatives happy that it happened.

You are going to have to enter on your 2008 tax return if you got the refund or not. That way the IRS will know if you get the refund when you file the return or if you already got it.

Then why didn't I get a refund/tax break?

Because your Adjust Gross Income was too high and the brackets are phased out.