Definition of 'rich' changing... already

[wist43]

RG,

Now i realize that you aren't just dishonest, but tone deaf.

Dan, you really need an economics class at your local community college. If you tell me where you live, I will find a class for you to enroll in. Macro Economics 101 or Micro Economics 101 would be a great place to start.

If you can't follow where you insulted him...then, really, there is little hope for you.

How is that insulting? He's trying to help the guy. You're an idiot. And RG just served for liberal dumbass homeboy Thunder Danny.

Trying to help a business owner and CPA? Insulting him before he even knows his background?

You are such a dumbass.

I question the truth of the business owner....I have a hard time believing many business owners (who aren't bleeding off the gov't) could support obama....really hard.

Agreed. My dad knows many, and I've met many myself. NONE are democrats as far as I can tell from discussion business and politics with them.

You know, I'm not a Republican, but for the life of me I can't understand why anyone would be a democrat... they stand for no good thing.

To me America is about freedom. The Democratic Party is about control - the very antithesis of what America is supposed to be about. They (leftists in general) survive, and even thrive, b/c they've infested our school systems, and long ago targetted and taken over the media and academia. Unfortunately, most people are weak minded sheep and are unable to see thru the brainwashing.

I want to live my life and be left alone. Free from government interference. I don't want to control other people. I don't want to tell them how to spend their money, or how much they should earn - yet, the majority of Americans don't see it that way, and certainly no democrat sees it that way.

They want to take my money from me and give it to someone who THEY FEEL needs it more. That's thievery, and as such, disgusting. I don't care if they couch it in Robin Hoodesque Socialist rhetoric - it's thievery, plain and simple.

Before you ever get to the theoretical arguments against every vile thing the democrats stand for "redistribution of wealth" is simply the mob bullying those who are paying the freight.

Every "democracy" in history has died the same way. Read the Federalist Papers, our founders outlined the history of mobacracy pretty clearly - the democrats are dragging us over that same cliff.

It's digusting and sad.

[retailguy]

More would succeed if it wasn't so GD expensive. Plan on giving 50% of what you earn back to big brother easily if you're a small business.

P,

Part of the problem is education. We don't "teach" people to be entrepenurial. If we did, the success rates would be higher. You learn as you go, mostly.

Even my business education and my MBA didn't really prepare me for running a business. Running a business, especially a new one is hard.

We cannot expect everyone to go out and run a business and make 100K a year. As freak out said, that's not easy. With the right education, and determination, most could succeed.

The problem is, that MOST don't want to. They want to come home and lose themselves in front of the big screen TV. That's fine, except for the part about wondering why they get left behind. Turn off the damn TV, read a non fiction book, and develop the drive to overachieve.... Then, it is less likely you'll get left behind.

[mraynrand]

The problem is, that MOST don't want to. They want to come home and lose themselves in front of the big screen TV. That's fine, except for the part about wondering why they get left behind. Turn off the damn TV, read a non fiction book, and develop the drive to overachieve.... Then, it is less likely you'll get left behind.

I took your advice and somehow, it didn't seem to help.

[wist43]

More would succeed if it wasn't so GD expensive. Plan on giving 50% of what you earn back to big brother easily if you're a small business.

P,

Part of the problem is education. We don't "teach" people to be entrepenurial. If we did, the success rates would be higher. You learn as you go, mostly.

Even my business education and my MBA didn't really prepare me for running a business. Running a business, especially a new one is hard.

We cannot expect everyone to go out and run a business and make 100K a year. As freak out said, that's not easy. With the right education, and determination, most could succeed.

The problem is, that MOST don't want to. They want to come home and lose themselves in front of the big screen TV. That's fine, except for the part about wondering why they get left behind. Turn off the damn TV, read a non fiction book, and develop the drive to overachieve.... Then, it is less likely you'll get left behind.

Amen.

[falco]

thank god everything is so black and white

[Tyrone Bigguns]

RG,

You just got taken to school. Not only did ThunderDan answer your post, he did so eloquently and without derision.

You might learn a thing or two from him.

NOt really, dan went from claiming (made it sound like) the SS tax was 7.6% and ended up MUCH closer to RG's number (ended over 13%).

I wouldn't call that getting schooled. He also made many other points that weren't really the way he made it sound.

Schooled in the way to respond. No need to insult.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

RG,

Now i realize that you aren't just dishonest, but tone deaf.

Dan, you really need an economics class at your local community college. If you tell me where you live, I will find a class for you to enroll in. Macro Economics 101 or Micro Economics 101 would be a great place to start.

If you can't follow where you insulted him...then, really, there is little hope for you.

How is that insulting? He's trying to help the guy. You're an idiot. And RG just served for liberal dumbass homeboy Thunder Danny.

Trying to help a business owner and CPA? Insulting him before he even knows his background?

You are such a dumbass.

I question the truth of the business owner....I have a hard time believing many business owners (who aren't bleeding off the gov't) could support obama....really hard.

Of course you do. All the dems who support Obama are just poor, uneducated fools, lawyers, or finance guys.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

RG,

Now i realize that you aren't just dishonest, but tone deaf.

Dan, you really need an economics class at your local community college. If you tell me where you live, I will find a class for you to enroll in. Macro Economics 101 or Micro Economics 101 would be a great place to start.

If you can't follow where you insulted him...then, really, there is little hope for you.

How is that insulting? He's trying to help the guy. You're an idiot. And RG just served for liberal dumbass homeboy Thunder Danny.

Trying to help a business owner and CPA? Insulting him before he even knows his background?

You are such a dumbass.

I question the truth of the business owner....I have a hard time believing many business owners (who aren't bleeding off the gov't) could support obama....really hard.

Agreed. My dad knows many, and I've met many myself. NONE are democrats as far as I can tell from discussion business and politics with them.

You know, I'm not a Republican, but for the life of me I can't understand why anyone would be a democrat... they stand for no good thing.

To me America is about freedom. The Democratic Party is about control - the very antithesis of what America is supposed to be about. They (leftists in general) survive, and even thrive, b/c they've infested our school systems, and long ago targetted and taken over the media and academia. Unfortunately, most people are weak minded sheep and are unable to see thru the brainwashing.

I want to live my life and be left alone. Free from government interference. I don't want to control other people. I don't want to tell them how to spend their money, or how much they should earn - yet, the majority of Americans don't see it that way, and certainly no democrat sees it that way.

Except when the Repubs are messing with our personal lives..then it is ok.

[mraynrand]

Of course you do. All the dems who support Obama are just poor, uneducated fools, lawyers, or finance guys.

Sounds about right. You just forgot teachers/professors.

[mraynrand]

Except when the Repubs are messing with our personal lives..then it is ok.

Wist doesn't like repubs either. You do seem to enjoy painting with a big brush.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

You can't follow a simple argument. He presented Dems as interfering with his life. I simple noted that he forgot Repubs.

Buhbye.

[mraynrand]

You can't follow a simple argument. He presented Dems as interfering with his life. I simple noted that he forgot Repubs.

Buhbye.

He didn't forget them, he just didn't mention them. I'll let him speak for himself, but my position is that repubs are intrusive, but nowhere near as bad as dems.

[gex]

All I can tell from this thread is:

Retail = greedy evil bastard

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Rand,

You just keep spinning it any way you want.

Forgot, didn't mention...the fact that he doesn't include them is a point.

[HowardRoark]

Rand,

You just keep spinning it any way you want.

Forgot, didn't mention...the fact that he doesn't include them is a point.

Democrats be their very nature are MUCH more intrusive. Just follow the money.

The little catch phrase around the area where I live is "I am conservative on fiscal issues, but more to the left on social issues."

It can't work that way.