Michael Jackson has passed away - suddenly.

[Scott Campbell]

The out of court settlements mean nothing.

As a general rule, if they talk about them all over the national news on the day that you croak - they mean something.

[Scott Campbell]

There would be plenty of corroboration to convict him if he was touching kids.

You can choose to believe what you want.

I choose to believe that it will forever be a dominant part of his legacy.

[Harlan Huckleby]

You can read a pretty detailed account of the case against Jackson

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_v._Jackson

I think he put himself in a ridiculous position, and is guilty being odd and extremely needy. He could be a child molestor, but I doubt it.

[GBRulz]

You knew these had to start sooner or later....


Michael Jackson will not be cremated, since his body is mostly plastic,
he will be melted down into legos, and then the little boys will be able
to play with him for a change!

[SkinBasket]

Having the gall to claim Jackson touched them. Didn't they know who wasn't touching them when he took them away from their families and into his bed?

Jackson was a child abductor!?

I wonder if you had heard the same accusations and facts about a man with an unfamiliar name who didn't live in an amusement park (again, completely normal), if you would be so generous in your defense of him.

Of course it's true that if an ordinary person hosted sleepovers with kids there would probably be a police raid before they even got the popcorn popped. But that's kinda the point, he's famous and wealthy. Jackson had half a dozen kids at a time sleeping in his room over many years, he was not alone with a single kid. If he had a proclivity to touch kids, its hard to imagine that it wouldn't happen multiple times. There would be many complainers and witnesses coming forward.

In response to both your quips, it's amazing what a little money can do. Especially when it's coming from an international celebrity who lives in an amusement park.

[SkinBasket]

You knew these had to start sooner or later....


Michael Jackson will not be cremated, since his body is mostly plastic,
he will be melted down into legos, and then the little boys will be able
to play with him for a change!

Oh! The humanity! GBRulz, you cruel person!

[GBRulz]

I'm so sorry....but I can't resist!

CPK, you kinda surprise me here. Lets change the character just for the fun of it.

Except that it never was proven that he dishonored the Packers. Also, you can't deny the impact he has had on the NFL, especially the Green Bay Packers. It would be the height of stupidity to ignore his contributions to the NFL simply becuase of something he was "accused" but never "proven" to have done.

:P

I know it's not right to bring this up in this type of thread, but just think it's odd your loyalty to MJ but yet you are disgusted by BF.

LOL, 007 I was thinking the exact same thing when I read his post.

[cpk1994]

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Good fucking Christ. I guess if you dance enough, you can have all the small children sleep with you that you want. But of course nothing happened. Stupid kids. Having the gall to claim Jackson touched them. Didn't they know who wasn't touching them when he took them away from their families and into his bed?

And where is your proof he touched them? The Mother of the accfuser who was a total nutjob? The same mother who as it turns out most liekly told him to lie?

[Zool]

Anybody who is accused of child molestation is guilty in the court of public of opinion. Where there's smoke, there's fire.

A grown man hosting sleepover parties is enough to convict him in that court. The out of court settlements mean nothing.

Oh and he was giving kids alcohol.

[cpk1994]

Having the gall to claim Jackson touched them. Didn't they know who wasn't touching them when he took them away from their families and into his bed?

Jackson was a child abductor!?

I wonder if you had heard the same accusations and facts about a man with an unfamiliar name who didn't live in an amusement park (again, completely normal), if you would be so generous in your defense of him.

Of course it's true that if an ordinary person hosted sleepovers with kids there would probably be a police raid before they even got the popcorn popped. But that's kinda the point, he's famous and wealthy. Jackson had half a dozen kids at a time sleeping in his room over many years, he was not alone with a single kid. If he had a proclivity to touch kids, its hard to imagine that it wouldn't happen multiple times. There would be many complainers and witnesses coming forward.

In response to both your quips, it's amazing what a little money can do. Especially when it's coming from an international celebrity who lives in an amusement park.

It's also amazing that people are capable of lying and making stuff up to get his money.

[SkinBasket]

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Good fucking Christ. I guess if you dance enough, you can have all the small children sleep with you that you want. But of course nothing happened. Stupid kids. Having the gall to claim Jackson touched them. Didn't they know who wasn't touching them when he took them away from their families and into his bed?

And where is your proof he touched them? The Mother of the accfuser who was a total nutjob? The same mother who as it turns out most liekly told him to lie?

I love how the Jackson worshipers pin his legacy against this one point, like it magically alleviates everything else surrounding not only the case, but the perverse and unhealthy strangeness that defined the man for the latter half of his life.

I suppose, as Patler pointed out, that you also believe OJ is innocent, there were no irregularities in the Iranian elections, and Kim Jong Il has 11 holes in one to his name? Guess what else? I fucked a unicorn last night. And it's true until you provide proof.

And when you're defending Jackson, it's probably not a good idea to use "total nutjob" to describe anyone. Jackson's going to lose that comparison, no matter who's on the other side.

[cpk1994]

Except that it never was proven that "He bedded small impoversihed children". Also, you can't deny the impact he has had no the music industry, especially in regards to music videos. It would be the hieght of stupidity to ignore his contiributions to pop culture simply becuase of something he was "accused" but never "proven" to have done.

I guess by your logic, Elvis Presley shouldn't have been honored becuase he was a druggie. Right?

It was never proven that OJ Simpson killed anyone either, so let's pretend that part of his life never happened and lets just remember what he did on a football field.

I never said you should ignore the bad stuff. What I am saying is that you don't discount or ignore the good things becuase of the bad stuff.

[Scott Campbell]

Harlan has never met a guilty guy that he didn't like. Now ole Joe Horn, that's another matter entirely.

[cpk1994]

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Good fucking Christ. I guess if you dance enough, you can have all the small children sleep with you that you want. But of course nothing happened. Stupid kids. Having the gall to claim Jackson touched them. Didn't they know who wasn't touching them when he took them away from their families and into his bed?

And where is your proof he touched them? The Mother of the accfuser who was a total nutjob? The same mother who as it turns out most liekly told him to lie?

I love how the Jackson worshipers pin his legacy against this one point, like it magically alleviates everything else surrounding not only the case, but the perverse and unhealthy strangeness that defined the man for the latter half of his life.

I suppose, as Patler pointed out, that you also believe OJ is innocent, there were no irregularities in the Iranian elections, and Kim Jong Il has 11 holes in one to his name? Guess what else? I fucked a unicorn last night. And it's true until you provide proof.

And when you're defending Jackson, it's probably not a good idea to use "total nutjob" to describe anyone. Jackson's going to lose that comparison, no matter who's on the other side.

1) I am not a Jackson worshiper and am insulted bny that comment.

2)What I do believe in is "innocent until proven guilty" You know a basic tenant on which the American judical system is built.

3)In OJ's case he was aquitted of murder. HE isn't innocent, but he was found not guity by a jury of his peers on the charges against him in that matter. There is a differecne between not guilty and innocent. Smoething you refuse to distinguish.

4)Who the hell cares about Iranian elections or Kim Jong IL's golf game?

It is people who rush to convict like you that ends up getting innocent people executed.

[sheepshead]

Bill Clinton is a felon.
OJ is a murderer.
Michael Jackson is a child molester.