The Inside Story of How the NFL's Plan for Its 1st Openly Gay Player Fell Apart

[woodbuck27]

So you're telling us if a gay is not actively having sex, he's not homosexual?

Maybe if you weren't so FEARFUL of SEX, you wouldn't find yourself FOCUSING on objectifying the gays and demanding they self-reduce themselves to the SEXUAL behavior that makes them UNIQUE and whereby the topic of this thread.

Read my post with some open mindedness not for some reason to nit and pick SkinBasket.

Try ... at least try for some decency and openness. That's rather nice to do Maan.

I don't put forward such effort to get bashed over the head with that by someone that's certainly no better than myself.

[bobblehead]

Are you one of those people that automatically assumes that if two people of the opposite sex are customarily seen together or even living under the same roof then they have to be sexually active with one another? .

Well, yes, unless they are married.

[bobblehead]

Why has this thread not been moved to Romper Room or FYI??? Can I start a thread about Obama now?

Red, you are the officer in charge of this, why haven't you bitched yet?

[MadtownPacker]

Thanks Bobble, I was letting it go for as long as possible.

[woodbuck27]

http://yourdailycap.ca/two-spirited-mean/

What does "Two-Spirited" mean?

Posted October 23, 2013

This is interesting from the stand point of how the Natives Americans view the their GAY population proportion and it's importance in regards to fair treatment.

" Traditionally, Aboriginal communities sought harmony within the community in order to function. But harmony did not mean homogeneity, it meant everyone had a role, everyone provided and everyone was dependent. This ideal of harmony serves as the foundation for modern day understandings of “balance” including the components necessary to ensure successful health and education. "

Fair treatment means fairness in the treatment of the whole.

GO PACK GO !

[woodbuck27]

Thanks Bobble, I was letting it go for as long as possible.

Thank You mad.

PACKERS !

[HowardRoark]

Hold it......Cobb is gay too?

[SkinBasket]

Hold it......Cobb is gay too?

Hard to tell if you've tried following the "Out the Gays" crowd. According to Woody, you're not gay unless you're currently having sex with another man and if you challenge him to define his position, he'll threaten to beat you up. According to pb, having sexual relations with another man does not hake you a homosexual, it's just one aspect of homosexuality, which is just like sexuality, but with a homo, but that does not define homosexuality, which is at once of grave importance to tell everyone about and of the highest priority to normalize. To be fair, his position is backed by thinking rather than violence. And according to ziggy, everyone who doesn't believe gays should be paraded in front of the media to satisfy an agenda and then rewarded with whatever they want because they are people too, should shut the fuck up in the name of tolerance. I may have detected some thinly veiled threats in her posts.

[SkinBasket]

You may feel that some slight is visited on the player by not being able to talk openly about sexual activity because of the narrow terms you use to define homosexual.

Homosexual is a rather narrowly defined term because it describes a specific sexual behavior. Again, your telling me that being a homosexual does not define the entirety of the person, which I wholly agree with, while at the same time demanding they be recognized solely for that aspect of their personage. There are other aspects to people's lives that are found in relatively the same small proportion of the population that are not generally accepted, yet this is the one that is singled out as being of paramount importance. I'm still left wondering why, other than the promotional value a queer offers as a partner to an NFL player, which you seem rather convinced of.

[mraynrand]

Homosexuality is defined by attraction not an activity. I think the public can handle that.

There's an enormous difference between attraction and action. It is the action that makes all the difference, just as it is with fornication and adultery. People can have the attraction and the lust to engage in these activities, but until they do, there is nothing publicly to judge.

And even if you simply stipulate attraction, the numbers still drive the fundamental difference: homosexual attraction is the rare exception just as a sexless man/woman relationship is the exception/rarity.

[mraynrand]

Hold it......Cobb is gay too?

This has not been confirmed. Please wait until he's on the Jumbotron with his gay partner talking about prostate exams.

[mraynrand]

Because no one talks about any sexual activities in the context of an NFL season. Not that I can remember.

What about Travis Henry?

Plus, people are always saying the Packers are getting fucked by the refs. What planet are you living on?

[mraynrand]

Why aren't rubber large intestines passed out to kids under 12 at the stadiums?

They might think they are something else. Alert Randall Cobb!

[HowardRoark]

Hard to tell if you've tried following the "Out the Gays" crowd. According to Woody, you're not gay unless you're currently having sex with another man and if you challenge him to define his position, he'll threaten to beat you up. According to pb, having sexual relations with another man does not hake you a homosexual, it's just one aspect of homosexuality, which is just like sexuality, but with a homo, but that does not define homosexuality, which is at once of grave importance to tell everyone about and of the highest priority to normalize. To be fair, his position is backed by thinking rather than violence. And according to ziggy, everyone who doesn't believe gays should be paraded in front of the media to satisfy an agenda and then rewarded with whatever they want because they are people too, should shut the fuck up in the name of tolerance. I may have detected some thinly veiled threats in her posts.

That ain’t the only thing I think is thinly veiled with ziggy.

It’s hard to follow all these threads these days with Woody becoming the Bridget Anne Kelley of Packerrats…..but I always thought the main thing that is important is two people who “love” each other is what is paramount in all of these matters. Gay marriage, etc.

Over the past few months I have realized that my identity is asexual. I have met other people who are asexual as well and we love each other deeply. What we have found really quite hateful is the lack of respect and rights that we have in today’s White-Male America. Why can’t my asexual lovers have the same rights as a typical Christian breeder couple?

[mraynrand]

Skin, I am guessing that NFL locker rooms are not great environments for gay acceptance. That's the barrier. Although in today's environment, I could see the fear of exposure being worse than the actual environment after coming out. As far as the public, sure there would be people dismayed to see Randall with his partner on the jumbotron begging you to self examine your testicles and have a doctor probe your prostate gland, but even the less tolerant would probably just say "Oh, that's nice that Randy has a butt buddy." Mostly, fans in the stadium and at home would not care, but jersey sales might dip a bit.