More Banjo: Coronavirus And Sports

[pbmax]

With major sports wiped out, what does ESPN do now? Have they cancelled Australian Rules Football?

ESPN was so much more fun before they actually got baseball and football.

[pbmax]

Do you know anybody who has this corona thing? Does anybody in here personally know anybody who does? There are 1,500 or so cases now in the whole country according to CNN, and about 40 deaths. There are 38 cases in Texas with zero deaths. And yet panicky fools are making a big deal about this. .

That isn't the point. The growth pattern that follows will be decided by actions taken early. The less you do now, the more cases you get later.

[Joemailman]

That isn't the point. The growth pattern that follows will be decided by actions taken early. The less you do now, the more cases you get later.

No kidding. My 93 year old mother is is an assisted living home. I'd like to be able to be able to visit her at some point.

Actually, she went into the hospital today with the norovirus. That's no picnic either for an old person. At any rate, the best way to protect the most vulnerable is to limit the spread of the coronavirus now.

[texaspackerbacker]

That isn't the point. The growth pattern that follows will be decided by actions taken early. The less you do now, the more cases you get later.

Not necessarily. The actions you're talking about have been taken here - primarily banning travel from China and now Europe, secondarily the stuff I hate - shutting down sports, etc. There's no strong reason why there should be huge numbers of cases in the areas where there is none or almost none now. The number of new cases is already decreasing in China and South Korea. Fairly soon, that should happen here too, and the peak of the graph will not be remotely close to as high thanks to those travel bans.

I saw an interview today with a fairly old guy named Carl Goldman who was on the cruise ship from which the Americans were evacuated to Nebraska. He described what it was like to actually have the virus. He said one day of fairly high fever that went down after that one, then a week or more with slight cough and runny nose. That really does sound a lot like a common cold. The guy said he tested negative yesterday, and 2 more days of negative tests are required before he can get out of quarantine.

I say again, the panic over this thing is over done and stupid.

[call_me_ishmael]

Nobody is panicking. It's all about being responsible and saving lives. The travel ban is stupid but shutting down schools, having people work from home, stopping sports, etc is an unbelievable show of unity to fight the spread and will ultimately make it dramatically smaller impact. If we did none of those things, every single America would get the virus. It's not over done and stupid. You're over done and stupid.

[mraynrand]

If we did none of those things, every single America would get the virus.

That’s a pretty stupid thing to write.

It's not over done and stupid. You're over done and stupid.

Physician, heal thyself!

[mraynrand]

Nobody is panicking..

Seen the stock market lately?

[texaspackerbacker]

Nobody is panicking. It's all about being responsible and saving lives. The travel ban is stupid but shutting down schools, having people work from home, stopping sports, etc is an unbelievable show of unity to fight the spread and will ultimately make it dramatically smaller impact. If we did none of those things, every single America would get the virus. It's not over done and stupid. You're over done and stupid.

hahahahahaha Typically, you've got it backwards. Keeping sick damn foreigners out - like the ones from China who brought us the problem in the first place - is obviously the best strategy. The fools in Italy and the rest of Europe were too damn dumb to do that - as you apparently wish for, based on your words here, and look what a mess they have.

Making virtually all Americans suffer with the various shutdowns is what it is - a gross overreaction, but I suppose it will cut down on the already low numbers of cases.

"If we did none of those things, every single America would get the virus." hahahahahaha and you say you're not panicking? Sheeeeesh, that's just ludicrous.

[call_me_ishmael]

That’s a pretty stupid thing to write.

Not really. That's not how exponential growth works. You don't think every single American would get a highly contagious virus with an up to two week incubation period before symptoms occur in many cases?

Every might be a stretch, I agree, but pretty much anybody's who's not a hermit will get the thing at some point if it continues to run rampant and we treat everything as business as usual.

[mraynrand]

Stop digging.

[sharpe1027]

Seen the stock market lately?

Stock market crash isn't just about Corona.

[pbmax]

Not necessarily. The actions you're talking about have been taken here - primarily banning travel from China and now Europe, secondarily the stuff I hate - shutting down sports, etc. There's no strong reason why there should be huge numbers of cases in the areas where there is none or almost none now. The number of new cases is already decreasing in China and South Korea. Fairly soon, that should happen here too, and the peak of the graph will not be remotely close to as high thanks to those travel bans.

I saw an interview today with a fairly old guy named Carl Goldman who was on the cruise ship from which the Americans were evacuated to Nebraska. He described what it was like to actually have the virus. He said one day of fairly high fever that went down after that one, then a week or more with slight cough and runny nose. That really does sound a lot like a common cold. The guy said he tested negative yesterday, and 2 more days of negative tests are required before he can get out of quarantine.

I say again, the panic over this thing is over done and stupid.

Its always wise to extrapolate from one test case, from someone "fairly old" and of unknown medical history.

The travel ban slows down the spread. Its was not thorough enough (was only worried about China for too long) or discriminating enough (it was a questionnaire, not a medical test) to stop it. But if you delay the spread of the disease at all, you have more time to find and implement a test and other precautions. Testing has been problematic in the US because the first test kit ran into trouble right away (it has a component failure and manufacturing was slow). Last I read, two days ago, it still wasn't being produced in mass quantities.

Without widespread testing, you are guessing at the total numbers and relying on private facilities or researchers (Cleveland Clinic and the group in Seattle) to develop tests for part of a local populace. You don't know what you don't know. Those facilities are not everywhere and they can't manufacture at scale.

So limiting large scale events with people is another measure you take to slow the spread of the disease.

This thing has overrun medical facilities in other modern countries. You don't want that to happen and should act now to prevent it.

[sharpe1027]

Not necessarily. The actions you're talking about have been taken here - primarily banning travel from China and now Europe, secondarily the stuff I hate - shutting down sports, etc. There's no strong reason why there should be huge numbers of cases in the areas where there is none or almost none now. The number of new cases is already decreasing in China and South Korea. Fairly soon, that should happen here too, and the peak of the graph will not be remotely close to as high thanks to those travel bans.

I saw an interview today with a fairly old guy named Carl Goldman who was on the cruise ship from which the Americans were evacuated to Nebraska. He described what it was like to actually have the virus. He said one day of fairly high fever that went down after that one, then a week or more with slight cough and runny nose. That really does sound a lot like a common cold. The guy said he tested negative yesterday, and 2 more days of negative tests are required before he can get out of quarantine.

I say again, the panic over this thing is over done and stupid.

Strawman argument. Nobody is arguing every person will get very sick. Making decisions based on one single person is dangerous.

[sharpe1027]

That’s a pretty stupid thing to write

Agreed. Probably more like 20% to 60% without any precautions.

[mraynrand]

Stock market crash isn't just about Corona.

Tell me more.