Columbine-like situation averted in GB

[GBRulz]

Ha, perhaps Tyrone.... but they left their stash out and wondered why the liquor had that watered down taste to it! Word of advice.... don't have your friends over and drink half of your parents whiskey and fill it back up with water! Gosh, and to think as a teenager you know everything

Anyhow.... the mayor of GB said earlier that he is having the District Attorney look into filing charges against the parents for this. None of the weapons were found at school, it was all in the homes. I agree 100%

[GBRulz]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/09/29/wisc.shooting.ap/index.html

9th grader shoots principal at WI high school.

SAD. WTF is wrong with people

[CyclonePackFan]

I think the real question is not, "What's wrong with these people?", but, "Where the hell are these kids' parents?"

[mmmdk]

Well, we do have a pretty angry, violence-driven society. Doesn't surprise me. Sad and disappointing, but not at all surprising.

tyler

Ask yourself; why is that? When you elect a President that fights terror with terror, you made your own beds. It starts at the top of the hill. So what's the solution? Buy more guns, build fences & walls to keep out the trash? I don't need to read gothic science fiction anymore; I just zap through the ever flowing stream of daily events.

I was referring (see also above): Well, we do have a pretty angry, violence-driven society. Doesn't surprise me. Sad and disappointing, but not at all surprising. and that's got to do with Presidents. America has a short history; a history of violence both good and bad. I, for one, am glad that Americans, Canadians, Australians and many more came to Europe and kicked some Nazi a@@ during WWII. But the nature of the beast is a long(er) discussion. I'm at work, so...! I'd love to discuss this over a beer some day. I'll be in Green Bay soon. Oh, that reminds me. I remember ealier, on JSO in april, that I asked some locals from Green Bay if I could stay at their home 'cos I was going to attend a game at Lambeau. I was called 'crazy' that I'd do such a thing because I'd get chopped up or something but I live in a non-violent country and the only crazy thing is if you give to violence and hence a nation engulfed in paranoia.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Ask yourself; why is that? When you elect a President that fights terror with terror, you made your own beds. It starts at the top of the hill. So what's the solution? Buy more guns, build fences & walls to keep out the trash? I don't need to read gothic science fiction anymore; I just zap through the ever flowing stream of daily events.

Give me a break. Remind me again what year Columbine happened?

[mmmdk]

Ask yourself; why is that? When you elect a President that fights terror with terror, you made your own beds. It starts at the top of the hill. So what's the solution? Buy more guns, build fences & walls to keep out the trash? I don't need to read gothic science fiction anymore; I just zap through the ever flowing stream of daily events.

Give me a break. Remind me again what year Columbine happened?

No offense but I don't get what you say. Are you tired? Again, no offense!

[GBRulz]

I think you guys are talking about different things in some perspective. JSR made a general comment about the angry/violent society that we live in today. Then you combated that with being the U.S. President's fault. Then Harvey read your comment and associated it as being the President's fault for what happened at Columbine. You all have valid points, just not necessarily all related to each others!

[mmmdk]

I think you guys are talking about different things in some perspective. JSR made a general comment about the angry/violent society that we live in today. Then you combated that with being the U.S. President's fault. Then Harvey read your comment and associated it as being the President's fault for what happened at Columbine. You all have valid points, just not necessarily all related to each others!

Ah, thank you!

[Fosco33]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/09/29/wis....ap/index.html

9th grader shoots principal at WI high school.

SAD. WTF is wrong with people

Similar thing happened near Milwaukee years ago - right off 94. Can't recall the specifics but I know the principal was killed. Very sad.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Then Harvey read your comment and associated it as being the President's fault for what happened at Columbine. You all have valid points, just not necessarily all related to each others!

Partially true, but I read it as him blaming the current President for this problem--when really the President (whomever it is) would have zero effect on something like this.

I mean this is his direct quote "Ask yourself; why is that? When you elect a President that fights terror with terror, you made your own beds."

That's explicitly blaming a President for this problem--which is a load of garbage. I just pointed out that Columbine happened in 1999--when President Clinton was in office (not to blame him for that, just countering his "argument").

[Fosco33]

Ask yourself; why is that? When you elect a President that fights terror with terror, you made your own beds. It starts at the top of the hill. So what's the solution? Buy more guns, build fences & walls to keep out the trash? I don't need to read gothic science fiction anymore; I just zap through the ever flowing stream of daily events.

Give me a break. Remind me again what year Columbine happened?

No offense but I don't get what you say. Are you tired? Again, no offense!

I agree w/ Harv on this one. This has nothing to do w/ Bush fighting terrorism - most of these big school shootings were under Slick Will's watch if you want to go there.... And it doesn't start 'at the top' - it starts and ends with parents - in the home.

[GBRulz]

Harv, he didn't blame Bush for what happened at Columbine! Just a little mix up in what people were talking about. now, stop the crabiness or I'll kick you out of our tailgating party for the AZ game

[GBRulz]

Some lady actually wrote an editorial in the GB paper today defending the parents of the students who were arrested a couple weeks ago. She said something like "It wasn't long ago that I was a kid and if I wanted to do something without my parents knowing, I certainly could get away with it".

Ok yeah, we've all got away with minor things (hence my hiding the booze and smokes in my ceiling tile of my room as I posted earlier) but bombs and guns are totally a different situation.

The physical items are one thing, but mentally, I would think a parent would see signs of a troubled teen IF they pay attention like they should. Maybe not in every situation, but 99% of the time. Instead of letting your kid close his door and surf the net for 4 hours at night. how about just having a chat for 20 minutes or so at night in the living room....just to ask how things are going, etc.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Harv, he didn't blame Bush for what happened at Columbine! Just a little mix up in what people were talking about. now, stop the crabiness or I'll kick you out of our tailgating party for the AZ game

I'm not saying he blamed Bush for Columbine. He's blaming Bush for a violent, angry society that Jack is blaming for these school shootings (which is a valid point). Unfortunately, our society has been extremely violent and angry for about 25 years. Violent crime has actually stagnated in the last decade. It exploded in the late 70s/early 80s.

[mmmdk]

Harv, he didn't blame Bush for what happened at Columbine! Just a little mix up in what people were talking about. now, stop the crabiness or I'll kick you out of our tailgating party for the AZ game

I'm not saying he blamed Bush for Columbine. He's blaming Bush for a violent, angry society that Jack is blaming for these school shootings (which is a valid point). Unfortunately, our society has been extremely violent and angry for about 25 years. Violent crime has actually stagnated in the last decade. It exploded in the late 70s/early 80s.

Hi Harvey, my name is Michael and agree 100% with what you just wrote.